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1/48 - Saab AJ-37 Viggen by Special Hobby - released


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This Mike (from Two Mikes Resin - http://www.twomikesresin.com/ & http://www.facebook....es/292079953801 ) talk too much... But doesn't say enough.
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http://www.britmodel...38
http://s362974870.on...96&qpid=2114224
 

On 20/12/2010 at 15:12, Mike Reeves said:

A 1/32 injection moulded kit is in the works now. No idea as the wen it will be released though.

On 20/12/2010 at 18:43, Mike Reeves said:

I am helping do some of the research and development of the kit(s) and once done in 1/32 I have been told that they will 99% likely be scaled down to 1/48. Why else do you think I am discontinuing the Viggen bits from the Two Mikes line?

On 20/12/2010 at 20:03, Two Mikes said:

Oh it is indeed true but I don't hold the cash so when it is released is not up to me. I am just helping the kit get off the ground. I will keep everyone posted as I am able to do so.

 

Wait and see.

V.P.

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The scaling down from 32nd to 48th sounds like typical Trumpeter to me but that's only idle speculation. Good news in the long term for Viggen fans hopefully.

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Sounds years off.

Tarangus Viggen will be out in 2013.

i am amazed hasegawa didnt follow up on the draken, which appears to have been very succesful for them.

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Reminds me of Zoukei Mura who are about to do 1/48th versions of their 1/32nd J7-W1 Shinden & Ta 152.

Paul Harrison

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Sounds years off.

Tarangus Viggen will be out in 2013.

i am amazed hasegawa didnt follow up on the draken, which appears to have been very succesful for them.

I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!! I want to be able to afford the kit!

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I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!! I want to be able to afford the kit!

I wish Hasegawa would attempt it as they did a nice job with the Draken. They're not the cheapest kits but they're not that expensive surely.

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I wish Hasegawa would attempt it as they did a nice job with the Draken. They're not the cheapest kits but they're not that expensive surely.

Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48.

I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! :lol:

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Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48.

I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! :lol:

Whilst I'd love everything to be really cheap (and no doubt other modellers would too) I think £35 is a reasonable price these days for a 1/48th Draken. Don't forget it costs a shed load to tool up plastic kits and also the more money these companies make on their kits the more kits we'll have.

I've seen resin manufacturers charge much more than that and it costs much much less to tool up a resin kit. How some of them justify such high prices for resin kits I don't know.

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£38.99 is the current UK price for the 1/72nd kit. I got the same plastic in a Revell box for £8.99 last year!

Current UK price for the new Danish Special Draken is £51.99.

Only Hasegawa's I've been buying are off ebay, mostly for less than their old 1990's retail price.

Paul Harrison

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I've seen resin manufacturers charge much more than that and it costs much much less to tool up a resin kit. How some of them justify such high prices for resin kits I don't know.

Because an injection moulded kit tool will generate between 1500 (short run) and 10,000+ (long run) sales, whereas as a resin kit sells 250 to 500 (if your very lucky) over a couple of years, and the mould wares out after 30 pops! Not really a fair comparison...

Colin (producer of moderately expensive resin kits :winkgrin:)

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Because an injection moulded kit tool will generate between 1500 (short run) and 10,000+ (long run) sales, whereas as a resin kit sells 250 to 500 (if your very lucky) over a couple of years, and the mould wares out after 30 pops! Not really a fair comparison...

Colin (producer of moderately expensive resin kits :winkgrin:)

I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit.

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I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!!

I sincerely hope Trumpeter don't attempt this !!, far rather pay Hase to get it right in the first place than Trumpy to botch it and require as much fettling as the old ESCI / Airfix jobbie. Sods Law will intervene here as I'm quite a way into tackling the Airfix version with a fair bit of scratch building and lots of resin !!

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I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit.

I've never produced 1500 resin kits before but I can imagine it's quite time consuming and also very hands on!

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I sincerely hope Trumpeter don't attempt this !!, far rather pay Hase to get it right in the first place than Trumpy to botch it and require as much fettling as the old ESCI / Airfix jobbie. Sods Law will intervene here as I'm quite a way into tackling the Airfix version with a fair bit of scratch building and lots of resin !!

I could not agree more!

If Hasegawa could do a Viggen with the same quaility as the Draken it would be good.

Julien

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I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit.

You are ignoring the economics of scalability and econmies of scale itself

Specialist resin kits cost more for the same reason that a specialist artisanal loaf of bread costs more than a loaf of Warburtons

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Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48.

I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! :lol:

 

Try this:

 

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA09888 in 1/48 for £25

 

and this:

 

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01929 two kits in 1/72 for £28

 

Nicolai

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MPM has just announced 1/48th (and later 1/32nd?) Saab AJ37 & Sk37 Viggen kits - while Tarangus is to release/edit the JA37 version (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234925290-new-viggen-in-148th-has-this-been-mentioned-before/).

Source: MPM newsletter of May 2013 http://modelweb.modelforum.cz/index.php/2013/05/10/novinky-od-mpm-production-na-kveten-2013/?lang=CS

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V.P.

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Makes sense- in the blurb they say its a joint venture with Tarangus. Roll on those Viggen. Good news all round I'd say.

Now- which decal maker's gonna be brave enough to do a splinter scheme decal sheet and save us all the masking??

Jonners, blodiga glad

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Now- which decal maker's gonna be brave enough to do a splinter scheme decal sheet and save us all the masking??

Pre-cut masks would help a lot ...

Nils

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Pre-cut masks would help a lot ...

Nils

Let's have a look, at the Gator's J-37 Viggen paint mask in 1/72nd and 1/48th:

http://www.ipmsusa3.org/reviews/Details/Aircraft/Gator_Mask_72_Viggen/Gator_Mask_72_Viggen.htm

Available here: http://www.gatorsmask.com/aircraftmask.html

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V.P.

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