AnonymousAA72 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just noted on the Airfix website: The new GR1 kit (A03003) will have a RRP of £10.99, Yet the GR1 'Starter Set' with paints and glue(FWIW) has a RRP of £9.99 (With 3 Sqn markings too!)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Less markings options on the Starter set I would guess But I know which I'll be getting in bulk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Less markings options on the Starter set I would guess But I know which I'll be getting in bulk! I was going to ask......3 Sqn, by the time they converted to the Harrier from the Cranberry B(I)8, were these not uprated GR1A's? If so did they have the upper fuselage fairing of the GR3 (as opposed to the two fairings on the GR1)? I can think of a nice pointy nosed wraparound GR3 - in 3 Sqn colours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 If its anything like the GR9 gift set you don't get all the stencil decals in the gift sets, as well as only one marking option. Of course you do get those lovely paints.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I was going to ask......3 Sqn, by the time they converted to the Harrier from the Cranberry B(I)8, were these not uprated GR1A's? If so did they have the upper fuselage fairing of the GR3 (as opposed to the two fairings on the GR1)? The GR1A had the twin fairings (and gained a vent on the tail boom). Thesingle came in on the GR3 AFTER the introduction on the RWR/LRMTS. You can get aircraft with neither (or in the case of the AV-8A, both!) - look out for a Harrier SIG guide in the New Year! I can think of a nice pointy nosed wraparound GR3 - in 3 Sqn colours.... I know the one you mean - and also 20 Sqn, 233 OCU and 1 Squadron examples! (Can't think on a 4 offhand!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 The GR1A had the twin fairings (and gained a vent on the tail boom). Thesingle came in on the GR3 AFTER the introduction on the RWR/LRMTS. You can get aircraft with neither (or in the case of the AV-8A, both!) - look out for a Harrier SIG guide in the New Year! I know the one you mean - and also 20 Sqn, 233 OCU and 1 Squadron examples! (Can't think on a 4 offhand!) I was just querying whether the kits parts (if including the double vents - which artwork shows) would need to be amended for a GR1A. Good news. REALLY looking forward to these - though I have a little stash of ESCI/Italeri kits still! (In fact I may just see about grafting an ESCI SHAR nose onto a new GR3! The 3 Sqn GR3 has a photo in the original SAM (1979) edition with LACG Adens - I made that using a Matchbox kit with gunpods from an old Airfix (I think) kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just noted on the Airfix website: The new GR1 kit (A03003) will have a RRP of £10.99, Yet the GR1 'Starter Set' with paints and glue(FWIW) has a RRP of £9.99 (With 3 Sqn markings too!)...... But who would want a cowboy outfit like 3 sqn markings on their Harrier anyway? Selwyn (Ex 4(AC) Sqn Gutersloh 1980-82, so I am slightly biased!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 How bizarre, 3 Sqn were cowboys, and when 18 Sqn turned up at Odiham with their Chinooks we named their hanger as 'The Ranch' because of their 'different' ways of working. It seems that Gutt was really in the Wild West rather than West Germany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I really cannot wait for these i love harriers in general but for me the GR1 is the most attractive of all of them and that reminds me i still need to pick up my WIP from 2011 building the old airfix gr1, a matchbox gr1 and the last gr9 in the retro camo. adding a couple of these new ones to that build will not hurt at all. cant wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiff guy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) I saw the test shots of this kit at the Yeovilton show.It looks really nice on the sprue i'll get a few already put my esci kits to one side and use the wings, undercarriage, wheels ,and wheel well doors on the sword trainers. happy modelling Glenn..... Edited March 27, 2013 by cardiff guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 How bizarre, 3 Sqn were cowboys, and when 18 Sqn turned up at Odiham with their Chinooks we named their hanger as 'The Ranch' because of their 'different' ways of working. It seems that Gutt was really in the Wild West rather than West Germany Only My Little Pony Sqn had transferred over from Laarparts not Gut... ...anyway back to Harriers, do you ever see a pointy nosed Steam Budgie with the RWR fairings on the tail? I know the RWR tail and LRMTS nose aren't what makes a Harrier a GR3 (it's just that those mods were introduced onto GR3/T4's), it's just that AFAIK the RWR was introduced at the same time as the LRMTS so I just wondered whether it was possible to have the RWR fairings without the LRMTS nose? Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob P Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yes they did have RWR and a pointy nose, as featured in this post elsewhere http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/70289-shar-1/?p=781805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yes they did have RWR and a pointy nose, as featured in this post elsewhere http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/70289-shar-1/?p=781805 Cool! Thanks Rob, I fancy doing a wraparound, pointy nosed, RWR finned jet myself. Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Yes they did have RWR and a pointy nose, as featured in this post elsewhere http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/70289-shar-1/?p=781805 Ah...but!!! The pic of XV742 shouldn't be taken as evidence of this being a widespread occurrence! This particular airframe was for a long period retained by HSA/BAe Systems/MODPE - whoever - as a trials aircraf (also as G/VSTO). She would have received a LRMTS nose later in life before entering RAF service as a GR3 (with 233OCU). In fact this is the only photo I've seen of a British Harrier in this configuration....which is why I posted it in the original post. As noted there, AV8AS Spanish/Thai Matadors (check out the Specsavers Advert!!!!) with pointy noses did have the RWR fit later in life - so there is that option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocksAway Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I agree with Bill, XV742 fits into the category of "the exception" and likewise I have not seen an RWR tail with a pointy-nose GR3. XV760 has an RWR tail and a pointy nose - but by then she's in Royal Navy colours, a gate guard and may even be two airframes knitted together, You can find shots of this oddity here. You;ll have to do one of these or go, as Bill said, with a Spanish / Thai Harrier in this configuration, as I did with mine here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) I agree with Bill, XV742 fits into the category of "the exception" and likewise I have not seen an RWR tail with a pointy-nose GR3. XV760 has an RWR tail and a pointy nose - but by then she's in Royal Navy colours, a gate guard and may even be two airframes knitted together, You can find shots of this oddity here. You;ll have to do one of these or go, as Bill said, with a Spanish / Thai Harrier in this configuration, as I did with mine here XV760 had a LRMTS nose in service, the pointy nose was probably added when it was used for ground instruction. http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1153690/ Selwyn Edited April 3, 2013 by Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The Spanish ones are interesting as they received their fin mounted RWR some time before they received the tail boom mounted one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 The Spanish ones are interesting as they received their fin mounted RWR some time before they received the tail boom mounted one! I took a photo of one at a RIAT (may have been at Cottesmore?), I've not seen it for a while, but I'll try to dig it out, from memory it had the fuselage mounted anteanae, but not as long as that on the early USMC machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) The Spanish AV-8As had Marconi RWR - here they are on a visit to Portsmouth in 1989 with just the fin mounted antenna: And with the tail boom one in 92 at Waddington They lost the big VHF antenna sometime in the early 90s as well Edited April 4, 2013 by Dave Fleming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 They lost the big VHF antenna sometime in the early 90s as wellThe antenna on the spine of those aircraft looks like the one of RAF Phase 6 aircraft. Did the Spanish aircraft receive Phase 6 mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The antenna on the spine of those aircraft looks like the one of RAF Phase 6 aircraft. Did the Spanish aircraft receive Phase 6 mods? It looks similar, but it's not - they had that one since they were delivered in the mid 70s (I can't remember what it actually was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEZ Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Remember seeing the Spanish AV-8A's at Yeovilton 1988/9 - exchange with 899/800? Have some photos somewhere. All sported RWR on fin. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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