robvulcan Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) Hi guys here she is I'm really excited about this the all new Pit Road Vulcan! what a gorgeous kit it is. here is my efforts i decided to not do the kit option i wanted a wrap around camo job so I went with XL427 sadly not a survivor. I used the kit decals. but the serial codes are from fantasy print shop. it is finished in humbrols excelent rattle can 163 raf dark green and humbrol 27 from a rattle can i find this shade works well as it has the right tone for a slightly faded in service dark sea grey. and has that bluey tone we all love. the model was masked with blue tack and the windows masked with pva glue. I hope you like her here she is. Edited November 27, 2012 by robvulcan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I can hear the roar of the Olympus in that last photo. Very fine Vulcan. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 indeed its hard to resist picking it up flying it around and making the noise ARRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Lol fun fun fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 They look great together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 eye thats two dragon vulcans with it for a size comparison. both great kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaw Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That looks great. I want a Pit Road Vulcan NOW! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Very nice. The camouflage is lovely - I'll have to try the blu tac method, yours looks great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's a cracking build. Here is how '427 met her Valhalla........ http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/misc/427_mach2.jpg Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McYellowbelly Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Looks great, wish there was a UK stockist though! Got one, fancy doing another couple too If they'd release a Victor too.............................................mmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Looks great, wish there was a UK stockist though! Got one, fancy doing another couple too If they'd release a Victor too.............................................mmmmm yes indeed i wish and hope they will do victor and valiant. plus the much ignored original mk1 vulcan and victors which are very different and possibly much more attractive no bulges etc we get every mark for every other craft and with v bombers being so popular i really cant understand why there is such a lack in this area. not moaning at this though its the easiest to put together vulcan of substantial size available. That's a cracking build. Here is how '427 met her Valhalla........ http://www.avrovulca...c/427_mach2.jpg Trevor yes a very sad sight glad you like my efforts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Very nice. The camouflage is lovely - I'll have to try the blu tac method, yours looks great. thanks the only tip i can give with the blue tack is if you want a soft edge make the blue tack edge high. if you want it tight go for a low edge on the blue tack. and most important go easy on the paint you dont want to flood it or you will get nasty results i recomend practising on something first. sure you probs know this already but just in case thats my findings. the worst part is the time it takes ....... but very fun when it comes to pulling it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnylurve Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That is so nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 A thing of beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Great job Rob, the camo has come out a treat............ they've really captured the shape of the aircraft well, look forward to your B1 conversion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Great job Rob, the camo has come out a treat............ they've really captured the shape of the aircraft well, look forward to your B1 conversion... well with b1 conversion thats actually relating to the dragon model. i dont know if ill do a b1 from this kit but id sure do it if i can. if i could learn enough about it it could be nice to design a b1 wing for 3d printing. i just hope pit road provide us with a b1 version. or someone please.... i hope im not the only one that notices how very different b1s look to b2s and after all they are the original vulcan and there are no real ones left. in my view a tradgedy that cosford scraped xa900 i heard the excuse its landing gear was knackered but looking at it i find that hard to belive and if so surely it was work propping up and fixing it up or finding something to do with it. rather than just killing it. rant over sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 A beauty! Now, if only it was in 1/72... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 A beauty! Now, if only it was in 1/72... Eye I that's a good idea it would be nice if they did a 72nd version that said this is a nice size. Personally I'd welcome new kits being done in 1/96th scale the frog vulcan is a bit bigger than this and a bit smaller than the airfix vulcan which would suit those who say the one is too big and the other too small Further to this I'd love to see 1/96th hunters Canberra buccaneers jaguars vampires nimrod vc10 argosy etc and I'd also love to see them in this scale Cheers rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzio Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That is a class model there, Rob. Very impressed by it. ill have to pick one or six up myself when I get around to it. Love the paint work on her enjoyed watching the WiP for this one On a semi-related note, I've never seen a Vulcan fly (haven't managed to see XH558 yet due to work)... But I remember when they started up the Vulcan at my local airport, I heard it 6 miles away... More like felt it. Great stuff!! Heard that they could out turn an F-15 at high altitude... Never confirmed that tho. Still a great model dude, you should be happy with it Dazz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 That is a class model there, Rob. Very impressed by it. ill have to pick one or six up myself when I get around to it. Love the paint work on her enjoyed watching the WiP for this one On a semi-related note, I've never seen a Vulcan fly (haven't managed to see XH558 yet due to work)... But I remember when they started up the Vulcan at my local airport, I heard it 6 miles away... More like felt it. Great stuff!! Heard that they could out turn an F-15 at high altitude... Never confirmed that tho. Still a great model dude, you should be happy with it Dazz Thanks mate ill build another soon and I could do 6 more too. If you haven't seen it go even a tame flight is something to behold. It's hard to find footage that shows how very manoeuvrable they were as they alway zoom in and there are no static reference points but I found a good video if get in the 90s were you can see heads people and cars and the vulcan literally and very suddenly stand on its bottom and were you think it will stall the sheer power of her old updated Olympus shove her up like a rocket further shown off by how aggressively she moves left and right and back then she used to be that loud your teeth literally tingled in your skull and sounded like a bed sheet being torn inside your skull. I wish they had not de rated the engines but I'd rather se her fly than not at all. I actually think that 558s team should remember 558 was built as a b1 initially and can use Avon engines and sapphire and Conway engines rather than wanting to shove her in a hangar like all the rest vulcan to the sky wasn't it. Your right about the turn and even very low I've never seen another plane turn so tight they don't do it now but when they used to open the bomb doors they would send her Into a real full power howl which rather than sounding like an oooooo was more like a million men shouting like they had dropped an anvil on there little toe on a frosty morning going AHRGHhhhhhhhh then be slammed into a tight turn in the centre of the runway takeing a matter of seconds to do said turn the grounds shaking then head away into a power climb and up getting high then engines go silent and the deafening sound heard traveling away from you in every direction like a ring off a raindrop into a puddle. Then the silence then you would take a breath and fading in the sound of car alarms and babies crying that was what a vulcan display was about. But like plane porn story that l 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Rob, Cosford's B1 was left to deteriorate to such a degree that it had to be scrapped. The outside environment meant that the levels of corrosion were so high that it was the only option, though like the Victor K1A XH592 which was scrapped alongside her, they could have at least kept the nose section for display. Having said that just look at the condition that it had been allowed to get into, the last remaining intact B1, It's amazing that it went from this, To this, Pretty poor show for a museum !! One thing though, 558s team should remember 558 was built as a b1 initially and can use Avon engines and sapphire and Conway engines XH558 was built as a production B2 straight from the factory, (first B2 airframe delivered to the RAF in July 1960) and only ever used Olympus 201 and later 202's. T Great stuff mate...keep building 'em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 I see pretty shocking pictures totally disgraceful for a museum tut tut. Ah really ok I understood it that all the xh vulcans were ordered as b1s. And the earliest of them and (was led to belive 558 was pretty early) were already on the production line being built at that point they finished xh532 as a b1 and xh533 was fitted with b2 wings. And the others on the line were then converted as required and then built as b2s I read it somewere probably wrong though Isn't it true however that all vulcan b2 centre sections are the same as b1 except for narrow intakes which the fist b2s had also but not many i think xh537 was the last like that. And are the engine mounts tunnels te same size cause xa894 had 200 series engines and that was a b1 xa902 had conways and saffires . Xh533 had avons sapphires and Olympus 200 engines. So I take it olympus 100 series engines are not that much different I. Size I've never seen the insides of vulcan but I'm sure the only real headache swapping engines canes with the 301 series Olympus as those demanded massive mods to the inside and had to have bigger intakes. That statement led me to belive that with other vulcans the intake size didn't matter too much nor did the engine type. From what I've read I don't know. As for them using new engines and there being none am I also correct I. What I was told that herons vulcan was the last to have a major and being zero houred again and ready to go back into service before its was Carefully dismantled and reassembled in that warm room there for 20 years or more waiting to be used again the engines In that must be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 That said about xa900 it only looks like a bit if moss on the outside and it's still there and it does look in much better nick than xl391 or xm603 that's why I find it hard to belive that it was that bad it had to be cut up. I reckon it was more a case of god we are not gonna spend that much putting it right. The real blame is that governments seem to only give money to preserving stately homes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well that outside shot of '900 only shows a bit of the story really, the aluminium and duralumin skin had heavily anodised and started peeling and crumbling away in layers right down to the stringers and ribs, you could put your fist through the skin, also the undercarriage had become unstable and wouldn't take the weight of the airframe much longer...this is what happens when you leave an untreated aircraft out in the elements for any length of time sadly. As far as I know the centre sections, cockpit and rear end, with enlarged ECM bulge were standard though the inner wing box, ribs/stringers and tunnels and spar mounts were reinforced and enlarged to take the 200 series engines, (the 301 required a lot more work as the rear end also had to be enlarged to take the extra width of the tailpipes, (these had thermo couplings built in and so were wider than the standard 201's which had them located in four bulges scabbed to the pipes), also the intakes were widened slightly to deal with the larger mass flow. Interestingly some of the very early B2's had the narrower B1 style intakes as shown in this photograph of XH554, (third aircraft in line), though I don't know how these effected the performance of the 201's). XH554 retained the narrower intakes throughout its life, The intake sizes matter a lot as the mass flow of air and therefore power and efficiency of the engine is guided by this, It must have been quite a headache for Avro to get this right...but they managed it with style !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 It amazes me how you keep all this stuff in your head all I know is I love them all and hate seeing them die photography is one of the most amazing inventions to freeze a moment in life forever imagine if we didn't have that. Just got my vc10 together can't believe how small the pit road vulcan looks next to it with my revell tornado and harrier got to get a globemaster to go with these. Does anyone do a 144th nimrod? Also general did you see my model of xh533 yet just in case you hadn't seen it in the gallery cheers mate and what you got on the bench now with all this time you now have lucky sod Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) In addition to the Cosford B.1 there was another XA903 that flew into Boscombe Down for fire training. What was particularly galling was that this was modded for engine trials with the RR Pegasus (complete with Harrier lower fuselage grafted into the bomb bay). Later it was the RB.199 test bed. THIS should have been preserved in Cosford as it would have fitted into the collection of experimental types. Trevor Edited November 28, 2012 by Max Headroom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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