foureyes Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This is not really intended to be a proper wip. It's a sort of trial run for a 1/32 kawasaki ki-61 that I want to foil. I have tried various metal effect paints in the past and wanted to try and get a little more of a realistic finish. I have started with the foiling straight away because it calls for a fair amount of man-handling to get it stuck and burnished. I am using cheap sticky foil tape from wickes. I have started with panels that don't overlap onto another piece as these will be done after I have stuck various others together. From what i have read, if you can, It's best to run a whole piece over leading edges, and joints to the next panel line on the other piece. If that makes sense? Started but cutting easily manageable pieces and applying them just over the panels I want to cover. Then trimming them carefully to fit with a very sharp scalpel. Polishing them with a piece of steel. The steel is a arm from a bulldog clip! Small, smooth and gives a really high shine. I am just experimenting at the moment as i don't want to ruin a fifty quid plus model. If anyone can give me any tips or help I would be very grateful. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bari Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) Hi, it looks good to me, this might help http://www.oldmodelk...-by-ken-friend/ also this on here http://www.britmodel...opic=27630 and this http://www.britmodel...showtopic=13996 please continue to post progress as I also have a P51 and an F86 I want to do in foil. If it goes wrong there is also this http://www.ipmsstock...ng_tech_nmf.htm Edited November 17, 2012 by Bari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Hi, it looks good to me, this might help http://www.oldmodelk...-by-ken-friend/ also this on here http://www.britmodel....opic=27630 and this http://www.britmodel...showtopic=13996 please continue to post progress as I also have a P51 and an F86 I want to do in foil. If it goes wrong there is also this http://www.ipmsstock...ng_tech_nmf.htm Some top tips there, thanks for posting them. Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) Thanks for those Links. They are exactly what I was after. I have found that this foil I am using is quite robust. If you overlap it you can almost sand it thin enough not to notice. Awesome for complex surfaces where one sheet would tear. Also depending on what you use to buff it you can change its appearance completely. On the pics I posted I used the steel ARM of a bulldog clip. Which gives a highly polished effect. A eraser gives a slightly matt effect. Green pan scouring pad gives a brushed aluminium look. And a lead pencil makes it quite dark. Still playing. Kev Edited November 17, 2012 by foureyes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) By the way. I have never done this before, so don't take my word on anything!!! Edited November 17, 2012 by foureyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 looks good to me mate another tip - to get different shades of metal, try boiling some of your metal foil with some egg shells or some copper coins for a few mins (works well with simple kitchen foil, not yet tried with sticky-backed metal foil) - especially good for areas such as around jet exhausts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick32 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Watching this one with interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Tonight I have covered some more of the wings. And have been playing around with different finishes. In these pics i have rubbed the surface with a glass fibre pen. The pop up ones you see in most model shops and make you itch like crazy!!!!!. Still finding bits in my fingers! This to me looks a bit more natural than the smooth reflective look in the earlier pics.. but i am not 100% sure. It anyone thinks either is better please post an answer. It polishes right back up again in no time so no worries about changing it. It will take a coat of future so I will be able to weather it after its done. Look forward to your thoughts. Kev Edited November 20, 2012 by foureyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Jim Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Kev, as much as I admire your work and the foil does look mighty impressive have you tried Humbrol No. 11 from a spray can..... its got a good dull shine from it and can look the part. Might save you a bit of time, however I like the look your going doubt I could cope with even doing my meteor in foil.... Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Kev, as much as I admire your work and the foil does look mighty impressive have you tried Humbrol No. 11 from a spray can..... its got a good dull shine from it and can look the part. Might save you a bit of time, however I like the look your going doubt I could cope with even doing my meteor in foil.... Jim. I haven't used the humbrol but have tried the tamiya metalics and alclad. I just fancied trying this to see what its like really. Plus it cold out side and I don't want to spray smelly stuff inside the house!! Plus the wife moans when the compressor is chugging. This way I make some quiet, odorless progress without any "phwoor that stinks.." or "shhh. I can't hear what Ant and Dec are saying" Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Looks great to me, some good tips here. I am doing a 1/48 EE Lightning and was thinking about foiling the intake ring on the nose as it always seems to be much shinier than the rest of the aircraft. May use Humbrol 11 for the rest though. cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I've used both Bare Metal Foil and normal kitchen foil, as well as pewter sheet on natural metal finishes. I like the effect of the Bare Metal Foil, but it is expensive at £5.00 a sheet, and extremely easy to tear if you aren't careful. I also found that it likes to lift at the edges after application - so I tend to glue the edges down to give some extra adhesion. For applying metal foil (ie kitchen foil, pewter sheet etc) I use Micro Metal Foil Adhesive - made by the same people who manufacture Micro Sol / Set: If you persevere, and make sure to get some different textures & finishes on your aircraft, the effect can be extremely realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Really coming on well, I thought you was mad when you started, but you clearly know what you're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Really coming on well, I thought you was mad when you started, but you clearly know what you're doing No. you are right... I am mad. Here's a bit more of the wing. All stuck together and foiled the leading edge and tips. Not to pretty in places and a few patches will need a touch up later. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I've used both Bare Metal Foil and normal kitchen foil, as well as pewter sheet on natural metal finishes. I like the effect of the Bare Metal Foil, but it is expensive at £5.00 a sheet, and extremely easy to tear if you aren't careful. I also found that it likes to lift at the edges after application - so I tend to glue the edges down to give some extra adhesion. For applying metal foil (ie kitchen foil, pewter sheet etc) I use Micro Metal Foil Adhesive - made by the same people who manufacture Micro Sol / Set: If you persevere, and make sure to get some different textures & finishes on your aircraft, the effect can be extremely realistic. If I like how this ends up I will invest in the proper stuff. Like I said this is the cheap foil tape from wickes. About three quid for a huge ten meter roll. It's probably a bit industrial for this purpose but it will stand me in good stead for later projects. I have used the stuff for masking canopys in the past and it was hanging around in my build box and i just thought hey Ho I will give it a go. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have finished the wings. Not hugely happy with them but wrinkled around the cannons and tips. But for a first time practice they are not bad. The foil is definitely too thick. For 1/72 anyway. Done some more on the wing root too. Thanks for looking Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoohoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Looking good there Kev, always fancied having a go at a foil finish so will be following with interest, Cheers, Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD70 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I Edited December 4, 2012 by SMD70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foureyes Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 A bad bout of kidney stones has stopped me in my tracks. Will try and get some time on this at some point but the past few weeks have been hell. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Foiled, eh? Bet you'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids! Looking seriously excellent so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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