Homebee Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Expected now in July 2020 - ref. SH72304 - Short Sunderland Mk.III "U-Boat killers" Source: https://www.facebook.com/specialhobby/posts/944601862646841 V.P. Edited June 16, 2020 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 More: http://www.specialhobby.net/2020/06/sh72304-sunderland-mkiii-novy-ramecek.html V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/578131849293846/posts/951003108673383/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 hours ago, Tbolt said: https://www.facebook.com/578131849293846/posts/951003108673383/ Well that's disappointing, not a single RAF example 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 - ref. SH72304 - Short Sunderland Mk.III "U-Boat killers" https://www.specialhobby.eu/nase-produkce/short-sunderland-mk-iii.html V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Having read through the Special Hobby site supplied Sunderland Mk III Information, some observations and a warning to modellers looking to build this Mk III, check photos. SH Sunderland Mk III Markings 1) As far a the Lanolin Water Proofing goes, SH makes mention that Sunderland's water proofing is "Yellowish/Greyish Tint"??? Sunderland's either had a Clear Lanolin or a Grey Coloured lanolin. Generally Only applied to the Hull from below the water line . To my knowledge the floats were never water proofed, the floats had far more sealed compartments, (which doesn't mean to say they didn't have water seepage) There is a good photo of EK591 in Ocean Sentinel, showing the clear lanolin over the white paint. 2) The Warning and Safety markings around the Main Hatches/Bomb Room Doors. A Post WWII application, if you look at any period photos, Mk III's didn't have these 3) The Decal/Marking Sheets show the Sunderland (as does Box Top Art) with the FN 5B turret (dual gun), The only Mk III's to have this were the Mk IIIa. Standard Mk III's had the single VGO FN Turret 3) For Sunderland EJ168 "J" 343 (French) Sqn Dakar 1944, SH gives the impression that the Sunderland has the Top turret removed but the fairing still in place - I haven't been able to find a photo showing this. Sunderland (later Mk III's) had the upper turret deleted in production, and a the area became a hatch (I have been up through this in RNZAF Mk V's) Sunderland Mk III with Hump Colour photo showing what it looks like Sunderland Upper Hatch The SH Mk V has a piece that slots in there, but it's fictitious, the Modeller will have to scratch build unfortunately 4) Couple of comments on EK591, and SH history comments, (I have a copy of the action report)on the Sinking of the U-Boat by EK591 "U". This was Warrant Officer Morton's first Operational sortie as Captain, being screened (Read assessed) by Flt Lt Butler (who occupied at the time 1st pilots seat (port)). Butler flew the attack, dropping six Torpex Mk XI 250lb depth charges. 4 Depth Charges were seen to explode around the U Boat. The U Boat obviously fatally damaged, the U Boat crew flashed (possibly Aldis lamp type) "Fine Bombish", the U Boat crew then going into life rafts. Here's the Interesting point, SH comment that the U Boat crew climbed into life rafts, little and one large (per the report), but were never seen again. In a conversation with Allan King (Author of Wings On Windermere et al) some few years ago, he mentioned, that the U Boat crew didn't survive the night (obviously found the next day) Interestingly, the Box art should (if SH actually researched the incident) show a depth charge still under the wing, as Sunderland pilots (from my research/reading) usually liked to keep one or two depth charges just in case, they find another U Boat on the way home. Hope this is of help Regards Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Released - ref. SH72304 - Short Sunderland Mk.III "U-Boat killers" https://www.specialhobby.eu/en/our-own-production/special-hobby/short-sunderland-mk-iii.html V.P. Edited August 5, 2020 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Can someone confirm as to whether you can build a Mk.III from the Mk.V boxing and vise versa with AM decals the only additiona required. From the sprues they look universal. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hardtarget said: Can someone confirm as to whether you can build a Mk.III from the Mk.V boxing and vise versa with AM decals the only additiona required. From the sprues they look universal. TIA The Mk. III has Bristol Pegasus engines whilst the Mk. V has Pratt & Whitney R-1830s. The installations required different length nacelles. The Mk. III generally had an offset FN dorsal turret whereas the Mk. V has beam hatches just abaft the wing root fairing trailing edge: each of these has a wind deflectir and porthole. Radar antenna installation on the Mk. III was in the form of "sticleback" yagis on fuselage sides and spine; on the Mk IIIA (Pegasus engines still) and Mk. V the antennae were in H2S style radomes under each wing tip. In short you're going to need the specific kit for your chosen subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, stever219 said: The Mk. III has Bristol Pegasus engines whilst the Mk. V has Pratt & Whitney R-1830s. The installations required different length nacelles. The Mk. III generally had an offset FN dorsal turret whereas the Mk. V has beam hatches just abaft the wing root fairing trailing edge: each of these has a wind deflectir and porthole. Radar antenna installation on the Mk. III was in the form of "sticleback" yagis on fuselage sides and spine; on the Mk IIIA (Pegasus engines still) and Mk. V the antennae were in H2S style radomes under each wing tip. In short you're going to need the specific kit for your chosen subject. Thanks Steve for the differences between the real aircraft, however that doesnt confirm if the two boxings have the same parts. As i said looking at the sprues there seems to be different nacelles etc so the question still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Hardtarget said: Thanks Steve for the differences between the real aircraft, however that doesnt confirm if the two boxings have the same parts. As i said looking at the sprues there seems to be different nacelles etc so the question still stands. Short Answer to your question is No. The SH Mk V only has the engines/cowling/Propellers for a Mk V. It seems in the Mk III boxing, they have supplied the Propellers/Cowlings/engines for a Mk III. That being said, the instructions in the Mk III box would have you use the Front Turret glazing for a Mk IIIa/MK V (FN5B Turret). I'll have to check, but the SH Mk V may have the FN11 single VGO turret on the transparency sprue which means it may well be on the Mk III sprue too (that will be later today after work) Regards Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, LDSModeller said: Short Answer to your question is No. The SH Mk V only has the engines/cowling/Propellers for a Mk V. It seems in the Mk III boxing, they have supplied the Propellers/Cowlings/engines for a Mk III. That being said, the instructions in the Mk III box would have you use the Front Turret glazing for a Mk IIIa/MK V (FN5B Turret). I'll have to check, but the SH Mk V may have the FN11 single VGO turret on the transparency sprue which means it may well be on the Mk III sprue too (that will be later today after work) Regards Alan Thanks Alan; I got distracted and couldn’t find sprue images for both kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 10 hours ago, LDSModeller said: Short Answer to your question is No. The SH Mk V only has the engines/cowling/Propellers for a Mk V. It seems in the Mk III boxing, they have supplied the Propellers/Cowlings/engines for a Mk III. That being said, the instructions in the Mk III box would have you use the Front Turret glazing for a Mk IIIa/MK V (FN5B Turret). I'll have to check, but the SH Mk V may have the FN11 single VGO turret on the transparency sprue which means it may well be on the Mk III sprue too (that will be later today after work) Regards Alan Thanks Alan, i just wanted to be be clear before i picked up one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 8 hours ago, stever219 said: Thanks Alan; I got distracted and couldn’t find sprue images for both kits. 1 hour ago, Hardtarget said: Thanks Alan, i just wanted to be be clear before i picked up one. Hi Guys, I checked my SH Mk V, and can confirm that the FN11 Turret Glazing is there, see red circles (parts 11 & 12) SH Mk V Instructions Kit Sprue includes Rear Turret Glazing for Mk I/II also The actual Kit parts (11 & 12) for the FN11 Turret which has the single slot for the VGO .303 MG If you checkout the SH Sunderland Mk III Kit instructions link below (from the Special Hobby Site), show the Kit parts on Page 5 crossed out with red X, but for some inexplicable reason would have the modeller build the kit with FN5B Turret, which is fine for a Mk IIIa, but not a Standard Mk III which used the FN11 Turret SH Sunderland Mk III Kit Instructions Unfortunately you will have to work out which kit parts fit the FN11 Turret (gun mounts etc) Just a warning for other modellers, if you build your Mk III according to the SH Instructions, you will end up with a Mk III/Mk V "Bitza" Hope that helps? Regards Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbdave Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) Got mine today very excited! https://flic.kr/p/2jygirj Dave Edited August 20, 2020 by Bbdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 In box review in your favourite forum - ref. SH72304 - Short Sunderland Mk.III "U-Boat killers" https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235081160-short-sunderland-mkiii-u-boat-killers-sh72304-172 special-hobby/ V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) New boxing in 2022 - ref. SH72438 - Short Sunderland Mk.I/II "Flying Porcupine" Sources: https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/01/sh72438-short-sunderland-mkiii-flying.html https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1070822600024766&id=578131849293846 Box art V.P. Edited January 14, 2022 by Homebee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Now expected in March 2022 - ref. SH72438 - Short Sunderland Mk.I/II "Flying Porcupine" Source: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SH72438 V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Schemes - ref. SH72438 - Short Sunderland Mk.I/II "Flying Porcupine" Source: https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/03/sh72438-sunderland-mkiii-kamuflazni.html Decals Source: https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/02/sh72438-sunderland-mkiii-obtiskovy-arch.html V.P. Edited March 12, 2022 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Julien Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 18/08/2020 at 14:15, Hardtarget said: Can someone confirm as to whether you can build a Mk.III from the Mk.V boxing and vise versa with AM decals the only additiona required. From the sprues they look universal. TIA The plastic can be seen here; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Released - ref. SH72438 - Short Sunderland Mk.I/II "Flying Porcupine" Source: https://www.specialhobby.eu/en/our-own-production/special-hobby/short-sunderland-mk-i-ii-the-flying-porcupine-1.html V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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