Radpoe Spitfire Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Right,I know we are looking at 2 scales here, but I fancy both Eduard's 1/48 & Roden's 1/ 32. Question is which one to choose? Admittedly, my usual scale is 1/48, but I'm becoming a bit of a fan of 1/32. So what do you fellows recommend please? Edited October 12, 2012 by Radpoe Spitfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Just to throw/sow more confusion there is now also this little gem from Wingnut Wings; http://wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3038 The Eduard is a vey nice, be it in Weekend or Profipak version. In 1/32 I would go with the Wingnut Wings example. Should state that mine has yet to arrive (Portuguese customs...) but basd on their previous models and the details shown on their web site, it will be amazing. Me? I would do both, as I have! HTH Christian the Married Edited October 12, 2012 by wyverns4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radpoe Spitfire Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hmmm, I saw the WnW threads about the DH 2 after I wrote this. Am I right in saying they are made in New Zealand. If they are, my Sister is in New Zealand for 6 weeks with my Nephew, I will get them to price 1 up and if I can afford one get them to bring one back. Thanks for the reply, Rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 They are made in New Zealand but I'm not sure if they supply directly to shops. I have two to build and am yet to hear anything other than five stars for these kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radpoe Spitfire Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 They are made in New Zealand but I'm not sure if they supply directly to shops. I have two to build and am yet to hear anything other than five stars for these kits. Thank you for confirming that, I will do some investigatiions to find out availability Regards Rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 They don't supply to shops. If you've an address in NZ they'll deliver to that for the $ price on the website. Or they'll deliver to the UK for the same $ price but be prepared to shell out a further £20 on VAT and handling fees from Royal Mail. If it was me with that complexity of rigging I'd be buying the largest scale available. Rodens offering does come in for criticism but Des over a ww1aircraftmodels has built one up and speaks relatively highly of it. Me, I'll be buying the WNW version, the riggings hard enough to deal with let alone worry about the build going together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Apparently, the Roden 1:32 DH-2 is not a very good kit. Didn't build it myself, but I read some reviews criticizing it being below the usual roden-standard. So, I would either stick to the 1:48-scale and get the Eduard one, oder the 1:32 WNW. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekenba Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The Roden DH2 is dodgy. Buy the WNW version. At $65 delivered - marked as a gift by WNW - is stands a good chance of avoiding customs £40 gift limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pte1643 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Or if you're not in any particular hurry... http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/WNW32028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA74 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The Roden kit is a dogpile. Absolutely doo-doo. There's ejector pin marks like skyscrapers....right in the middle of detail, and what detail there is is seriously underpar; wings, nacelle etc. It's awful. Oh, and then there's the awkward tailboom assembly and the flash. Apart from that though, it's just crap. As for the WNW version...it's a lightyear ahead, and I'm starting mine soon. Both together, side by side, there's no comparison.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I am afraid I cannot agree with the comments berating the Roden kit. Feature Build Roden kit review Eduard Weekend kit review Review of Eduard brass for the Roden kit Eduard Profipack reissue Edited October 19, 2012 by JackFlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The Roden kit is a dogpile. Absolutely s***e. There's ejector pin marks like skyscrapers....right in the middle of detail, and what detail there is is seriously underpar; wings, nacelle etc. It's awful. Oh, and then there's the awkward tailboom assembly and the flash. Apart from that though, it's just crap. As for the WNW version...it's a lightyear ahead, and I'm starting mine soon. Both together, side by side, there's no comparison.... Is that an official Britmodeller "always look for the positive" review. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekenba Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I am afraid I cannot agree with the comments berating the Roden kit. Feature Build Roden kit review Eduard Weekend kit review Review of Eduard brass for the Roden kit Eduard Profipack reissue That build took an awful lot of additional work & parts. It's possible to turn even the most useless kit into a great build with the right skills, patience & AM, but that is hardly a measure of the quality of the kit you started with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The builder comments, ". . . In the end this build proved very satisfying and fun project, where I got to test some new things with a lot of good advice from the Early Aviation crowd. And the rigging? Well it was not very hard to do... truly just more!. . ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimK Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've been meaning to ask this for a while. Who is Stachel? What armee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehed Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Bruno Stachel, aka George Peppard, from the Blue Max film. He shoots down an aircraft but cannot locate the wreckage and is told by his CO that the kill will not be credited by Armee HQ. At least that's what I've always thought. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimK Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Thanks Steve. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekenba Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 The builder comments, ". . . In the end this build proved very satisfying and fun project, where I got to test some new things with a lot of good advice from the Early Aviation crowd. And the rigging? Well it was not very hard to do... truly just more!. . ." Indeed, but much as a stopped watch is correct twice a day, you must compare this single opinion with the multitude of differing opinions. The weight of opinions on Roden's DH.2 is that it is clearly inferior in every respect to WNW's offering and is one of Roden's less successful efforts. That's not to say that a determined and skillful builder can put together a fantastic build - I'm thinking in particular of Des's build on WW1aircraftmodels.com, still my favorite build - but the sheer weight of evidence that it's not a brilliant kit is pretty overwhelming. Add in the WNW DH.2 - which is just a beautiful model kit, the fabric effect on the cockpit walls is just stunning in itself - and anybody who builds the Roden version in preference to the WNW version is either short of cash or up for a challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEEBEE Z Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I am afraid I cannot agree with the comments berating the Roden kit. Feature Build Roden kit review Eduard Weekend kit review Review of Eduard brass for the Roden kit Eduard Profipack reissue I agree entirely.I have both the Roden and the new WNW.They are both very good kits.I should know,I've built some right dogs in my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA74 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I am afraid I cannot agree with the comments berating the Roden kit. Feature Build Roden kit review Eduard Weekend kit review Review of Eduard brass for the Roden kit Eduard Profipack reissue Ok, you want some shots of the pile of cack that is Roden? I bought my Roden DH.2 on the strength of reviews as those on Aeroscale, and if it was possible to claim for loss of money against buying crap, then Aeroscale would have been sent a letter by now. You don't see any real pictures of the real crap you get in the box with your review..... Here you are: That model you show has been made with some seriously superb modelling skills and care and attention. You DON'T get that out of the box, no matter how amazingly glowing your review was... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA74 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Is that an official Britmodeller "always look for the positive" review. :-) No, it's a bullshit free 'as it really is' comment', and one of the reasons I take Aeroscale reviews with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Easy boys... lets not get our panties bunched and ribtape twisted over a simple difference of opinion Looking at the evidence that Jim has provided though, I know which one I'd have We know that anything is possible with a poor kit if a Sanger Stirling can win SMW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Ok, you want some shots of the pile of cack that is Roden? I bought my Roden DH.2 on the strength of reviews as those on Aeroscale, and if it was possible to claim for loss of money against buying crap, then Aeroscale would have been sent a letter by now. You don't see any real pictures of the real crap you get in the box with your review. . .That model you show has been made with some seriously superb modelling skills and care and attention. You DON'T get that out of the box, no matter how amazingly glowing your review was... If you genuinely feel that Roden is a bad kit then send it back and ask for your money. The fact that a better modeler than you or I did a fine job on the Roden kit simply says he is a better modeler than you or I. Since the WNW kit has just been released I think we can all see that it is far more detailed and has more parts than the Roden kit. But it simply was not available in 2009 to provide your vivid comparison. Over all the Roden DH 2 is dimensionally sound. For its time it was the best available. In the last 3 weeks it appears that it has been eclipsed. The Roden kit still builds up well with sound modeling skills. Edited October 21, 2012 by JackFlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radpoe Spitfire Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thank you all for the info you've provided. I must admit the quality ot the WnW kit surpasses that of Roden's. If money was no object, I'd go for the WnW offering. However 1 small moan. Can we keep the language down please? I'm not Impartial to use vulgarity, but it isn't needed on a forum like this one. By all means, share your opinion, but younger modeller's don't need to read it. Thanks again for your help Regards Rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Couldn't agree more Rad... @JackFlash - Jim is an excellent modeller, but I think he was driving at the point that it requires too much work for "yer average modeller" to make anything resembling that wonderful model you posted as an example. Whilst he may have overstated the problems with the Roden kit for dramatic purposes, he does seem to have a point. The WnW kit has eclipsed the Roden offering and will probably upset a lot of owners of the Roden example as a result, wishing they'd hung fire. It's not that unreasonable of a modeller to want to be able to build a nice detailed model of an aircraft from the box, and WnW have provided just such an experience for the WWI modeller. I hope that Roden and others take note and raise their game. For the avoidance of doubt, Jim is a friend of mine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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