Greased Lightning Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Superb as usual Artur, I find your models have a certain style to them and it's a style I personally love. The other thing that amazes me is the prolific output you achieve without comprimising quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paganbronze Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 holy crap!! I've yet to see a 1/24th version look half as good as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikelhund Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Perhaps not strictly accurate Arkady but a wonderful lesson in modeling and finishing, looks gorgeous! Cheers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 10 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Superbly built and painted, a cursory look at most photos of the Mosquito shows it to have a patchy appearance (unless its paint shop fresh) Weathering isnt just a mechanical function, expansion /' contraction and chemical elements all come together to degrade a painted finish, perhaps the varying skin thicknesses (and therefore their ability to absorb heat and cold) and expansion rates lead to a patchy look. Brilliant Richard McC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball1973 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Whether the finish is realistic or not it looks bloody amazing to me - fantastic level of control & detail! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbuna Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 That looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCinLA Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) The model is really quite nice, but it is also a demonstration that "less is more." The "Spanish school" of model painting emphasizes things that should be de-emphasized. If you've ever been around real airplanes, the amount of this sort of fading is nearly non-existant. However, pre- and post-shading- which even at its least is far more than would be seen in reality - can add "depth" that insures the model is indeed three-dimensional. But like most things such as weathering and such, the more subtle the result the more realistic the look. The "Spanish school" is great if you're drawing cartoons. What would have been interesting here would have been to give the model "high altitude UV fading". Given that your part of the world has more clouds than anywhere else, sun fading like this never really happens. What happens instead is the airplane breaks out of "the largest cloud in Europe" (under which all Allied pilots could find England, as many have testified) at 20,000+ feet, and the sun then fades the paint with enhanced ultraviolet. So the Ocean Grey takes on a violet tinge, the Dark Green takes on a red-brownish tinge, probably with a blotchy effect, and the Sea Grey Medium takes on a hint of blue(ish). It really is really a Major Rule of Art: "less is more." "More is better" is the usual road to perdition with a model. Please take this as intended to help in the future. I am sure this model as it exists would win all kinds of awards at a show. Edited October 6, 2012 by TCinLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoohoo Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thats an absolutely beautiful mossie Arkady, even if the ribbing effect is not right for the aircraft it has still been very well executed along with the rest of the weathering and its good to see that your not afraid to experiment, with the amount of time you invest in a model its a difficult decision to risk trying something new So when are you going to do a painting tutorial....? Cheers, Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady72 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 The model is really quite nice, but it is also a demonstration that "less is more." The "Spanish school" of model painting emphasizes things that should be de-emphasized. If you've ever been around real airplanes, the amount of this sort of fading is nearly non-existant. However, pre- and post-shading- which even at its least is far more than would be seen in reality - can add "depth" that insures the model is indeed three-dimensional. But like most things such as weathering and such, the more subtle the result the more realistic the look. The "Spanish school" is great if you're drawing cartoons. What would have been interesting here would have been to give the model "high altitude UV fading". Given that your part of the world has more clouds than anywhere else, sun fading like this never really happens. What happens instead is the airplane breaks out of "the largest cloud in Europe" (under which all Allied pilots could find England, as many have testified) at 20,000+ feet, and the sun then fades the paint with enhanced ultraviolet. So the Ocean Grey takes on a violet tinge, the Dark Green takes on a red-brownish tinge, probably with a blotchy effect, and the Sea Grey Medium takes on a hint of blue(ish). It really is really a Major Rule of Art: "less is more." "More is better" is the usual road to perdition with a model. Please take this as intended to help in the future. I am sure this model as it exists would win all kinds of awards at a show. Thank you very much for your interesting comment. However let me disagree with some things... Firstly I've never treated my hobby as the Art. Otherwise I would have to change my profession which is for me a lot more of a challenge than making models. Modeling will be always for me just a hobby. Secondly, you mentioned the "Spanish School". So, I like this school very much, in my opinion, so far this is the best way of paint techniques to achieve with plastic kit something more than nicely looking, but still "flat looking" painted model. Even as you said on the real planes this sort of fading is nearly non-existant ( sometimes of course because there is a thousands photos showing many kinds of fadnig, weathering, even hard dirty effects on the planes) I am sure that every model painted according to the Spanish School rules is looking more interesting and eyecatching than any other. Some day perhaps somebody will find better way. What happens instead is the airplane breaks out of "the largest cloud in Europe" (under which all Allied pilots could find England, as many have testified) at 20,000+ feet, and the sun then fades the paint with enhanced ultraviolet. So the Ocean Grey takes on a violet tinge, the Dark Green takes on a red-brownish tinge, probably with a blotchy effect, and the Sea Grey Medium takes on a hint of blue(ish). Is there scientific proof of these phenomena? If yes, I'll take that into consideration during my next paintworks. Thanks again for your voice in my gallery. Thats an absolutely beautiful mossie Arkady, even if the ribbing effect is not right for the aircraft it has still been very well executed along with the rest of the weathering and its good to see that your not afraid to experiment, with the amount of time you invest in a model its a difficult decision to risk trying something new So when are you going to do a painting tutorial....? Cheers, Stu I will try to show something again in the end of October or a bit later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Block Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 That is a fantastic build - if my half built mossie comes out half as good as that one I'll be really pleased! keep up the fantastic work. Paul H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 10 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 The model is really quite nice, but it is also a demonstration that "less is more." The "Spanish school" of model painting emphasizes things that should be de-emphasized. If you've ever been around real airplanes, the amount of this sort of fading is nearly non-existant. However, pre- and post-shading- which even at its least is far more than would be seen in reality - can add "depth" that insures the model is indeed three-dimensional. But like most things such as weathering and such, the more subtle the result the more realistic the look. The "Spanish school" is great if you're drawing cartoons. What would have been interesting here would have been to give the model "high altitude UV fading". Given that your part of the world has more clouds than anywhere else, sun fading like this never really happens. What happens instead is the airplane breaks out of "the largest cloud in Europe" (under which all Allied pilots could find England, as many have testified) at 20,000+ feet, and the sun then fades the paint with enhanced ultraviolet. So the Ocean Grey takes on a violet tinge, the Dark Green takes on a red-brownish tinge, probably with a blotchy effect, and the Sea Grey Medium takes on a hint of blue(ish). It really is really a Major Rule of Art: "less is more." "More is better" is the usual road to perdition with a model. Please take this as intended to help in the future. I am sure this model as it exists would win all kinds of awards at a show. Whether or not you spend time around 'Real' aircraft is irrelevant, unless the aircraft (in this particular case) was built and painted in the 1940's, was made of wood, and was used operationally and then vacuum packed (assuming you are not 80 years old). The fact of the matter is, if you look at contemporary photographs of Mosquitos (lets face it our only source of information) the underlying structure of the aircraft is reflected (for what ever reason) in the paint finish, unless (as commented earlier) it is paintshop fresh. The depiction here is (at worst) a little uniform but it does reflect reality. This model would win 'all kinds of awards' at shows and rightly so Richard McC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASANALA Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Really a masterwork....that's wonderful....Congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady72 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Whether or not you spend time around 'Real' aircraft is irrelevant, unless the aircraft (in this particular case) was built and painted in the 1940's, was made of wood, and was used operationally and then vacuum packed (assuming you are not 80 years old). The fact of the matter is, if you look at contemporary photographs of Mosquitos (lets face it our only source of information) the underlying structure of the aircraft is reflected (for what ever reason) in the paint finish, unless (as commented earlier) it is paintshop fresh. The depiction here is (at worst) a little uniform but it does reflect reality. This model would win 'all kinds of awards' at shows and rightly so Richard McC Some "operational" pictures can say more than words: http://img204.images...4a175d4cb4z.jpg http://img32.imagesh...977be50191z.jpg http://img339.images...04935232916.jpg Fadings? http://img3.imagesha...83984861616.jpg https://fbcdn-sphoto...264070616_n.jpg http://www.historyof...pitfire_XII.jpg Good example of ribbing: https://fbcdn-sphoto...688827616_n.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I don't know what school it's from but it looks pretty amazing to me, don't forget that painting tutorial Artur because you models look fantastic and I'm eager to learn how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Some "operational" pictures can say more than words: http://img204.images...4a175d4cb4z.jpg http://img32.imagesh...977be50191z.jpg http://img339.images...04935232916.jpg Fadings? http://img3.imagesha...83984861616.jpg https://fbcdn-sphoto...264070616_n.jpg http://www.historyof...pitfire_XII.jpg Good example of ribbing: https://fbcdn-sphoto...688827616_n.jpg -Dziekuje Arkady for these photos, thet just depict what I try to represent on my models but unfortunatly I still never have achieved a result that could satisfy me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Lovely build. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Stunning build as ever, a true inspiration to us all who want to improve our painting skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod bettencourt Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well thats just fantastic!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek A Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Right or wrong, it is a stunning paint job bordering on art! I wish I could produce something half as good! Very many thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Stunning example!! And thank you for sharing. Belle Edited October 14, 2012 by Belle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagledocf15 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Thank you very much for your interesting comment. However let me disagree with some things... Firstly I've never treated my hobby as the Art. Otherwise I would have to change my profession which is for me a lot more of a challenge than making models. Modeling will be always for me just a hobby. Secondly, you mentioned the "Spanish School". So, I like this school very much, in my opinion, so far this is the best way of paint techniques to achieve with plastic kit something more than nicely looking, but still "flat looking" painted model. Even as you said on the real planes this sort of fading is nearly non-existant ( sometimes of course because there is a thousands photos showing many kinds of fadnig, weathering, even hard dirty effects on the planes) I am sure that every model painted according to the Spanish School rules is looking more interesting and eyecatching than any other. Some day perhaps somebody will find better way. Is there scientific proof of these phenomena? If yes, I'll take that into consideration during my next paintworks. Thanks again for your voice in my gallery. I will try to show something again in the end of October or a bit later. I have been working around aircraft for most of my life and I agree with Arkady72. I can find many examples of the fading and weathering he has rendered. When we deployed to the middle east, our F-15s built up a layer of fine sand and staining. You could see the panel lines from a fair distance away. These disappeared after returning home and a good rain shower. So not only was it a matter of fading due to age, but temporally were they geographically located. Also the models that Arkady72 produces are true works of art and masterpiece models! Thank you all and Best Wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith in the uk Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Nice build , but sorry not my cup of tea . ( too much shading ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak1 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Simply superb!! Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Uhr wow! Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 excellent work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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