Spitfire interiors - "Apple green" & X4422

Icedtea · March 9, 2023

On 9/25/2012 at 3:56 AM, Miggers said:

Tell me about it,I've been spraying both professionally(all types of metal for the oil/gas industry,water industry,mining industry,etc)

and as a hobby(cars,motorbikes,pushbikes,aircraft parts and yes,even models)for about the past 35 years.

The fun and games to be had if specs are, or paint is deviated from the stated in the slightest can be

a pain in the bum to say the least.

LOL reminds me of a friend who worked as an architectural modeller. They were building display models of individual apartments in a tower block. He only had a text list of colour instructions for the decor in the apts so he rang the architects in Sydney (he was in Brisbane) to ask them to send colour chips .....so they "faxed" him a set of the chips for that project...promptly! He rang them back to enquire did they mean for the apartment decor to be in shades of grey?......A parcel came up later, urgently, by courier express....

Dave Wilko · March 9, 2023

One seems to remember that back in the mists of time,a prefered mix of 2 parts Humbrol "Sky" to one part (Interior)Grey Green was

deemed a pretty good match too for the elusive "early Spitfire" cockpit green.

As has been said,not as light as "Sky" and not as dark as "Grey Green".

The original Airfix Spit Mk.1 1/24th scale kit called for "Sky" in the cockpit,but that was always thought to be too light a shade.

2996 Victor · March 9, 2023

1 hour ago, Dave Wilko said:

One seems to remember that back in the mists of time,a prefered mix of 2 parts Humbrol "Sky" to one part (Interior)Grey Green was

deemed a pretty good match too for the elusive "early Spitfire" cockpit green.

As has been said,not as light as "Sky" and not as dark as "Grey Green".

The original Airfix Spit Mk.1 1/24th scale kit called for "Sky" in the cockpit,but that was always thought to be too light a shade.

Thanks for your post, Dave, that's very good to know. I've got Hataka and Vallejo equivalents of Sky and Grey-Green, so I'll try it out with those.

Thanks again and best regards,

Mark

Dave Wilko · March 9, 2023

34 minutes ago, 2996 Victor said:

Thanks for your post, Dave, that's very good to know. I've got Hataka and Vallejo equivalents of Sky and Grey-Green, so I'll try it out with those.

Thanks again and best regards,

Mark

Sir,one's cogs are whirring a little more and the mists of 40+ years ago are clearing a little more.

Paint the cockpit,only the cockpit though,all other interior surfaces were silver doped,in the "Sky/Grey-Green" mix.

Once dry,wash lightly with thinned "Grey-Green" to give a little depth and shadowing.

Again,once dry,lightly dry brush with "Sky" to lift the rib and cockpit construction details.

If one remember's correctly,that idea was mooted in an early 70's "Scale Models" article on modelling the then Airfix "big" Spitfire Mk.1.

One would imagine that it'll work for any scale of early Spitfire.

2996 Victor · March 10, 2023

12 hours ago, Dave Wilko said:

Sir,one's cogs are whirring a little more and the mists of 40+ years ago are clearing a little more.

Paint the cockpit,only the cockpit though,all other interior surfaces were silver doped,in the "Sky/Grey-Green" mix.

Once dry,wash lightly with thinned "Grey-Green" to give a little depth and shadowing.

Again,once dry,lightly dry brush with "Sky" to lift the rib and cockpit construction details.

If one remember's correctly,that idea was mooted in an early 70's "Scale Models" article on modelling the then Airfix "big" Spitfire Mk.1.

One would imagine that it'll work for any scale of early Spitfire.

Thank you once again - that sounds like an effective process to bring out the detail nicely! Much appreciated

All the best,

Mark

2996 Victor · March 10, 2023

Apropos nothing much, I did a little "test", daubing some samples of the paints I do have onto a piece of white card to see how they compared. They were just given a thorough shake and allowed to dry naturally.

Now, I realise that this is fundamentally flawed in that this is a digital photograph transferred onto a computer and viewed through a digital monitor, so the margin for variance is large. However, I did play with the image slightly such that it agrees well with the physical samples when viewed on my monitor. Other monitors may vary

Incidentally, what were Hataka thinking with their Camotint??? Its the colour of pea soup.....

The Hataka Grey-Green looks quite dark on the sample, but surprisingly it's fine when sprayed:

The two Sky Type S samples are wildly different: Vallejo seems a very dark and muddy grey, Hataka has a distinctly "butterscotch" tone. I'm not sure if I'd use either of them for their intended purpose, although perhaps if the Hataka were lightened with a very pale grey.....

Both the Hataka Camotint and Vallejo Eau-de-Nil are the sort of shades I had in mind for an "early Spitfire apple green interior", the Eau-de-Nil perhaps slightly more so as its a bit more yellowy to my eyes. For interest, I'm going to try a mix of Grey-Green and Sky as suggested by @Dave Wilko and see where that goes.

Cheers for now,

Mark

VH-USB · March 10, 2023

On 9/24/2012 at 10:56 AM, Smithy said:

And thanks for the reply. So do you think that the colour which might be seen in X4422 (if it is as Lucas says) was possibly a pre-war Supermarine colour?

By the sounds of it, the kind fellow at the Shoreham Aircraft Museum is going to photograph those interior pieces of X4422 which they hold.

Rather exciting to see what they look like.

I have a Titanine UK commercial aircraft paint chart from 1935 and it contains a paint chip of a 'Grey Green - Shade No. TE 38' which appears similar to the war era cockpit Grey Green.

Tim

Icedtea · March 11, 2023

On 3/10/2023 at 4:16 AM, Dave Wilko said:

One seems to remember that back in the mists of time,a prefered mix of 2 parts Humbrol "Sky" to one part (Interior)Grey Green was

deemed a pretty good match too for the elusive "early Spitfire" cockpit green.

As has been said,not as light as "Sky" and not as dark as "Grey Green".

The original Airfix Spit Mk.1 1/24th scale kit called for "Sky" in the cockpit,but that was always thought to be too light a shade.

That reminds me....Tamiya did a "darker" sky colour in acrylics for the interior of their A6M Zeke kits. I seem to recall it being mooted as a likely alternative for the early 'eau de Nil" of Spitfire? No idea if the colour is still available though?

Chuck1945 · March 11, 2023

1 hour ago, Icedtea said:

That reminds me....Tamiya did a "darker" sky colour in acrylics for the interior of their A6M Zeke kits. I seem to recall it being mooted as a likely alternative for the early 'eau de Nil" of Spitfire? No idea if the colour is still available though?

Presumably XF-71 Cockpit Green? This is often used for RAF Grey-Green

Icedtea · March 12, 2023

21 hours ago, Chuck1945 said:

Presumably XF-71 Cockpit Green? This is often used for RAF Grey-Green

Good question I may have a jar somewhere but I dont do Japanese anymore so havent scrutinised that section of the LHS paint rack, as I recall Tamiysa never added these "new" colours for their releases into their standard colour brochures?

2996 Victor · March 14, 2023

On 07/03/2023 at 22:18, Paul Lucas said:

I think that the best advice I can offer for the moment is for you to read the SAM article, and then come back to me via this thread if you have any further questions.

Hi Paul,

I've unearthed a copy of the May 2018 SAM with the "Grey Green 1924-1945" article - very interesting reading, thank you. The schematic drawing of the Spitfire/Seafire cockpit makes reference to two Vallejo Model Air colours with 71.302 Sky Type S (plus a yellow tint) for the light grey green. This really surprised me as, from the bottle, it's quite a beige shade and not particularly "greeny" and certainly not "appley" - I was expecting a much greener shade!

As an aside, as per @Dave Wilko's posts, I mixed Sky Type S and Grey-green 2:1 and added it to the bottom of my "test" card:

Usual caveats, of course, digital photo on a digital monitor etc etc In reality, the mix appears very similar in tone to the Vallejo 71.302 Sky Type S, if a little greener. Still not as "green" as I was expecting, though. I may try a spot of yellow in the Vallejo Sky and see where that takes me.

Thanks for your help and kind regards,

Mark

Paul Lucas · March 14, 2023

@2996 Victor, please don't get too hung up on the Vallejo colours quoted in either this, or any other 'Colour Conundrum' article. To see why, go to the 'Magazines & Books' section and scroll down until you find the 'Updated Paul Lucas Colour Conundrum' thread. If you don't want to wade through the whole thing, go to page 2 and read Jon Kunac-Tabinor's post dated February 18 2022...

It's a good job that you asked me about this because it has led to me finding that I have managed to make a mistake in what I said with regard to the Canadian colour that Ian Huntley called Cockpit, Green Grey, Light. At some point, probably at the note making stage, I transposed the last two digits in the FS number given for this colour.

It should be FS 24524.

This is why I couldn't find it in my copy of FS595B! :doh:

In the light of this, you should disregard everything I wrote that stems from my originally giving the incorrect FS number '2542' such as tracing this colour back to a US Army standard and the match to Humbrol No. 95 Concrete. :fraidnot:

Fortunately, this error does not affect what I said about the colour that is visible in the cockpit of R6915 in the IWM as I continued to refer to the Methuen colour. I can confirm that the general impression of the colour in R6915s cockpit does look to be similar to

FS 24524. :phew:

I wish that I could give you a simple straight out of the bottle match for FS 24524, but I can't. Perhaps the best that I can do is direct you to the e-paint website, just enter 'e-paint' into Google, and then perform a colour search using the number '34524'. This should bring two different entries for the same colour up on your screen that will at least give you an idea of the sort of colour that you should be aiming for.

Of course, if you ask @Casey nicely, perhaps she might perform her magic and come up with a suitable modelling paint for you (us)... :please:

Regards,

Paul.

2996 Victor · March 14, 2023

Hi Paul,

many thanks once again for your reply, its greatly appreciated.

11 minutes ago, Paul Lucas said:

please don't get too hung up on the Vallejo colours quoted in either this, or any other 'Colour Conundrum' article. To see why, go to the 'Magazines & Books' section and scroll down until you find the 'Updated Paul Lucas Colour Conundrum' thread. If you don't want to wade through the whole thing, go to page 2 and read Jon Kunac-Tabinor's post dated February 18 2022...

Interesting and perfectly understandable. I believe that Vallejo colours are sometimes not a great match for their named colour, but are often perfect for other applications (I've been using IDF green for Grey-green until recently, for instance). However, I'm curious how the graphic artists know which shades are appropriate to which applications - presumably they have recourse to the FS or Methuen standards and cross-reference to the Vallejo catalogue.

Thank you for the update on FS24542/FS24524, and the Methuen codes of course. I do realise that a magic "straight-out-of-the-bottle" paint match for such an obscure colour is a virtual impossibility - after so long a period of time even well-documented shades are open for discussion/interpretation, and the degradation of remaining original samples adds another factor to the "mix" as it were.

I've had a look at the e-paint website as you suggested, and indeed two samples come up. What surprised me was how grey the shade appears, even allowing for the digital image/digital screen factor. I wonder where the whole "apple green" myth has come from..... (oh no, another can of worms!).

Thank you once again for all your help and guidance on this, its enormously appreciated.

Kind regards,

Mark

dogsbody · March 14, 2023

My collection of Interior Grey-greens. I have read various builds on various forums, where these paints were used on the interiors of British WW2 models.

Chris

Chuck1945 · March 14, 2023

2 hours ago, dogsbody said:

My collection of Interior Grey-greens. I have read various builds on various forums, where these paints were used on the interiors of British WW2 models.

Chris

I routinely use Tamiya XF-71 for RAF cockpit grey-green and used to use the PollyScle version. In real life those two colors are a bit lighter than what I see on my screen. I’m not intending to disparage Chris’ work, rather I am mentioning that colors we post may not be particularly close to how those same colors appear on a different system, iPhone/iPad in my case

Casey · March 14, 2023

4 hours ago, Paul Lucas said:

Of course, if you ask @Casey nicely, perhaps she might perform her magic and come up with a suitable modelling paint for you (us)..

I hear you.

I can't find FS24524 in the FS database I have but there is FS34524... I was baffled by this reference before too - it seems the reference suggests it is a semi-gloss version of 34524.

But when it comes to 34524 itself, it looks pretty grim.

Amongst all the paint I've checked there is only one very poor match:

Target: 34524, RGB: #B7C295 (L*=76.09, a=-8.29, b=21.04)
   Colors in: Humbrol (compared with 182 paints)
       DE00: 3.68 - #B8C6A5 - Humbrol - AB0090 | No 90 | Beige Green - Matt | GU 9.5 (L*=77.69, a=-7.88, b=14.89)

Target is on the left. Here is the list of paints I've checked:

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Paint set: Revell (86 paints)
36104 | White | RAL 9010 | GU 72.8
36105 | White | RAL 9001 | GU 5.7
36106 | Tar black | RAL 9021 | GU 2.3
36107 | Black | RAL 9005 | GU 79.8
36108 | Black | RAL 9011 | GU 1.4
36109 | Anthracite | RAL 7021 | GU 4.7
36112 | Yellow | RAL 1018 | GU 79.5
36115 | Yellow | RAL 1017 | GU 6.5
36116 | Sandy yellow | RAL 1024 | GU 2.6
36117 | Africa brown | GU 3.1
36125 | Luminous orange | GU 3.5 | Fluorescent
36130 | Orange | RAL 2004 | GU 87.7
36131 | Fiery red | RAL 3000 | GU 90.5
36134 | Italian Red | GU 88.5
36135 | Flesh | GU 5.9
36136 | Carmine red | RAL 3002 | GU 3.0
36137 | Reddish brown | RAL 3009 | GU 1.8
36139 | Dark green | GU 2.2
36140 | Black green | GU 2.1
36142 | Yellowish olive | GU 1.8
36143 | Medium grey USAF | GU 2.9
36145 | Light olive | RAL 7003 | GU 2.2
36146 | Nato olive | RAL 7013 | GU 1.6
36147 | Mouse grey | RAL 7005 | GU 2.4
36148 | Sea green | RAL 6028 | GU 2.1
36149 | Light blue | GU 3.1
36150 | Light blue | RAL 5012 | GU 72.9
36151 | Ultramarine | RAL 5002 | GU 85.4
36152 | Blue | RAL 5005 | GU 82.7
36154 | Night blue | RAL 5022 | GU 85.3
36155 | Light green | RAL 6027 | GU 3.3
36156 | Blue | RAL 5000 | GU 2.2
36157 | Grey | RAL 7000 | GU 3.5
36159 | Sky RAF | GU 3.4
36161 | Emerald green | RAL 6029 | GU 82.3
36162 | Sea green | RAL 6005 | GU 88.5
36165 | Bronze green | RAL 6031 | GU 2.9
36166 | Olive grey | RAL 7010 | GU 2.2
36167 | Greenish grey | RAL 7009 | GU 2.3
36168 | Dark green RAF | GU 2.1
36169 | Granite grey | RAL 7026 | GU 1.6
36174 | Gunship grey | GU 3.1
36175 | Stone grey | RAL 7030 | GU 3.5
36176 | Light grey USAF | GU 4.1
36177 | Dust grey | RAL 7012 | GU 3.8
36178 | Tank grey | RAL 7024 | GU 2.9
36179 | Greyish blue | RAL 7031 | GU 1.9
36180| Mud brown | RAL 8003 | GU 82.2
36182 | Dark earth RAF | GU 2.1
36183 | Rust | GU 1.9
36184 | Leather brown | RAL 8027 | GU 1.9
36185 | Brown | RAL 8023 | GU 2.5
36186 | Olive brown | RAL 7008 | GU 2.2
36187 | Earth brown | RAL 7006 | GU 4.8
36188 | Ochre brown | RAL 1011 | GU 2.4
36189 | Beige | RAL 1019 | GU 2.9
36190 | Silver | GU 76.6 | Metallic
36191 | Steel | GU 4.9 | Metallic
36192 | Brass | GU 54.8 | Metallic
36193 | Copper | GU 60.8 | Metallic
36194 | Gold | GU 53.0 | Metallic
36195 | Bronze | GU 61.5 | Metallic
36199 | Aluminium | GU 9.6 | Metallic
36301 | White | RAL 9010 | GU 20.9
36302 | Black | RAL 9005 | GU 11.1
36310 | Lufthansa Yellow | RAL 1028 | GU 25.6
36312 | Luminous yellow | RAL 1026 | GU 4.9 | Fluorescent
36314 | Beige | RAL 1001 | GU 18.8
36330 | Fiery red | RAL 3000 | GU 16.2
36331 | Purple red | RAL 3004 | GU 17.8
36332 | Luminous red | RAL 3026 | GU 3.7 | Fluorescent
36350 | Lufthansa blue | RAL 5013 | GU 19.6
36360 | Fern green | RAL 6025 | GU 22.2
36361 | Olive green | RAL 6003 | GU 24.5
36362 | Greyish green | RAL 6013 | GU 12.4
36363 | Dark green | RAL 6020 | GU 21.6
36364 | Leaf green | RAL 6001 | GU 20.4
36365 | Patina green | RAL 6000 | GU 38.1
36371 | Light grey | RAL 7035 | GU 17.8
36374 | Grey | RAL 7001 | GU 20.7
36378 | Dark grey | RAL 7012 | GU 28.0
36381 | Brown | RAL 8025 | GU 42.5
36382 | Wood brown | RAL 8001 | GU 24.0
36730 | Orange | GU 87.2 | Opacity 34.45% | Transparent
36731 | Red | GU 93.0 | Opacity 42.21% | Transparent
36752 | Blue | GU 88.5 | Opacity 48.3 | Transparent

Paint set: Vallejo (123 paints)
71.001 | White | Blanco | FS37925 | RAL9016 | RLM21 | GU 3.5
71.002 | Medium Yellow | Amarillo Medio | GU 3.0
71.003 | Red RLM 23 | RLM23 Rot | RLM23 | GU 1.6
71.004 | Blue | Azul | GU 1.4
71.005 | Grey Blue | Azul Gris | RAL5008 | GU 1.5
71.006 | Light Green Chromate | Verde Claro Chromo | GU 1.3
71.007 | Olive Green | Verde Oliva | GU 1.2
71.008 | Pale Blue | Azul Claro | FS35414 | GU 2.0
71.009 | Eau De Nil "D.E. Green" | Verde Huevo Pato | BS216 | GU 1.8
71.010 | Interior Green | Verde Interior | FS34098 | GU 3.5
71.011 | Dark Green RLM83 | RLM83 Dunkelgrün | RLM83 | GU 1.2
71.012 | Dark Green | Verde Oscuro | GU 2.6
71.013 | Yellow Olive | Oliva Amarillo | FS34062 | RAL6016 | GU 3.7
71.014 | Gunship Green | Verde Acorazado | GU 2.7
71.015 | Dark Green RLM71 | RLM71 Dunkelgrün | RLM71 | GU 2.0
71.015 | Dark Green RLM71 | RLM71 Dunkelgrün | RLM71 | GU 2.6
71.016 | USAF Olive Drab | USAF Verde Oliva | FS34088 | ANA613 | GU 2.6
71.017 | Russian Green 4BO | Verde Ruso 4BO | FS34082 | GU 2.6
71.018 | Black Green | Verde Negro | GU 3.2
71.019 | Cam. Dark Green | RAL6007 Grün | FS34083 | RAL6007 | GU 3.5
71.020 | Green Brown | Verde Pardo | GU 2.0
71.021 | Black Green RLM70 | RLM70 Schwarzgrün | RLM70 | GU 0.6
71.021 | Black Green RLM70 | RLM70 Schwarzgrün | RLM70 | GU 3.3
71.022 | Light Green RLM82 | RLM82 Hellgrün | RLM82 | GU 0.8
71.022 | Light Green RLM82 | RLM82 Hellgrün | RLM82 | GU 1.3
71.023 | Hemp | Tan Green | FS34201 | GU 2.8
71.024 | Khaki Brown | Marron Caqui | GU 2.4
71.025 | Dark Yellow | RAL7028 Dunkelgelb | RAL7028 | GU 3.0
71.026 | US Flat Brown | Marron US | FS30215 | GU 2.5
71.027 | Light Brown | Marron Claro | GU 5.2
71.028 | Sand Yellow | Amarillo Arena | GU 4.2
71.029 | Dark Earth | Tierra Oscura | GU 1.0
71.030 | Brown Green | Marron Verdoso | GU 1.7
71.031 | Middlestone | Piedra Medio | GU 1.5
71.032 | Golden Brown | Marron Dorado | GU 1.2
71.033 | Yellow Ochre | RAL1006 Gelb | RAL1006 | GU 1.7
71.034 | Sand Brown | Marron Arena | GU 1.6
71.035 | Cam. Pale Brown | Cam. Pardo Claro | FS30140 | RAL8025 | GU 2.1
71.036 | Mahogany | Caoba | GU 1.9
71.037 | Mud Brown | Marron Lodo | GU 2.0
71.038 | Cam. Medium Brown | Cam Pardo Medio | FS30097 | GU 1.3
71.039 | Hull Red | Marron Rojizo | GU 2.6
71.040 | Burnt Umber | Sombra Tostada | RAL8014 | GU 1.6
71.041 | Armour Brown | RAL8017 Rotbraun | RAL8017 | GU 1.1
71.042 | Dark Brown RLM61 | RLM61 Dunkelbraun | RLM61 | GU 1.3
71.042 | Dark Brown RLM61 | RLM61 Dunkelbraun | RLM61 | GU 1.6
71.043 | US Olive Drab | US Verde Oliva | FS34087 | GU 3.0
71.044 | Grey RLM02 | RLM02 Grau | RLM02 | GU 1.8
71.044 | Grey RLM02 | RLM02 Grau | RLM02 | GU 1.9
71.045 | Cement Grey | Gris Cemento | RAL7033 | GU 2.8
71.046 | Pale Blue Grey | Azul Gris Claro | GU 3.6
71.047 | Grey | Gris | GU 2.0
71.048 | Engine Grey | Gris Motor | FS36076 | GU 2.2
71.049 | Sea Grey | Gris Mar | GU 3.2
71.050 | Light Gray | Gris Claro | FS36300 | RAL7046 | GU 3.1
71.051 | Neutral Gray | Gris Neutral | FS36173 | GU 3.4
71.052 | Anthracite Grey | Gris Antracita | GU 2.2
71.053 | Dark Sea Grey | Gris Mar Osc. | FS36099 | RAL7011 | GU 2.9
71.054 | Dark Grey Blue | Gris Azul Oscuro | RAL7024 | GU 2.2
71.055 | Black Grey RLM66 | RLM66 Schwarzgrau | RLM66 | GU 1.7
71.055 | Black Grey RLM66 | RLM66 Schwarzgrau | RLM66 | GU 3.3
71.056 | Panzer Dk. Grey | RAL7021 Dunkelgrau | RAL7021 | GU 1.6
71.057 | Black | Negro | FS37038 | RAL9004 | RLM22 | ANA604 | BS642 | GU 1.3
71.062 | Aluminium | Aluminio | GU 45.5 | Metallic
71.063 | Silver RLM01 | RLM01 Silber | RLM01 | GU 38.8 | Metallic
71.064 | Chrome | Cromo | FS17178 | GU 41.7 | Metallic
71.065 | Steel | Acero | GU 29.0 | Metallic
71.066 | Gold | Oro | FS17043 | GU 19.8 | Metallic
71.067 | Bright Brass | Laton | GU 32.1 | Metallic
71.068 | Copper | Cobre | GU 11.1 | Metallic
71.069 | Rust | Oxido | GU 7.1 | Metallic
71.070 | Signal Red | Rojo Señal | GU 6.2 | Metallic
71.071 | Arctic Blue | Azul Artico | GU 6.3 | Metallic
71.072 | Gunmetal | Fusil | FS37200 | GU 17.3 | Metallic
71.075 | Ivory | RAL1001 Elfenbein | RAL1001 | GU 3.9
71.076 | Skin Tone | Color Piel | GU 5.1
71.078 | Yellow RLM04 | RLM04 Gelb | FS33538 | RLM04 | ANA614 | BS356 | GU 2.5
71.078 | Yellow RLM04 | RLM04 Gelb | FS33538 | RLM04 | ANA614 | BS356 | GU 2.7
71.080 | Rust | Oxido | FS30111 | BS435 | GU 2.7
71.084 | Fire Red | Rojo Fuego | GU 3.1
71.090 | Deep Sky | Azul Oscuro | FS35056 | GU 1.9
71.092 | Medium Olive | RAL6003 Olivgrün | RAL6003 | GU 1.9
71.097 | Medium Gunship Gray | Gris Medio USAF | FS36118 | ANA603 | GU 3.1
71.101 | Light Blue RLM78 | RLM78 Hellblau | RLM78 | GU 5.3
71.103 | Grey Blue RLM84 | RLM84 Graublau | FS36559 | RLM84 | GU 1.7
71.104 | Green RLM62 | RLM62 Grün | RLM62 | GU 3.4
71.107 | US Interior Green | US Amarillo Inter. | GU 3.0
71.108 | Uk Azure Blue | Uk Azul Azure | FS35231 | ANA609 | GU 3.1
71.109 | Faded P.R.U. Blue | M485 Blue Gray | FS35189 | BS636 | GU 1.6
71.115 | Blue Grey | RAL7016 Blaugrau | RAL7016 | GU 2.0
71.116 | Camouflage Grey Green | RAL7008 Graugrün | RAL7008 | GU 2.3
71.117 | Camouflage Brown | RAL8020 Braun | RAL8020 | GU 3.0
71.118 | Camouflage Grey | RAL7027 Grau | RAL7027 | GU 2.7
71.119 | White Grey | RAL9002 Grauweiss | RAL9002 | GU 5.2
71.121 | Light Gull Gray | Gris Gaviota USN | FS36440 | ANA620 | GU 2.6
71.124 | USAF Green | Verde USAF | FS34092-ANA612 | GU 2.7
71.125 | USAF Brown | Marrón USAF | FS30219 | ANA628 | GU 2.6
71.137 | US Light Green | US Verde Claro | FS34151 | ANA611 | GU 3.1
71.139 | US Field Drab | US Marrón Verdoso | FS30118 | ANA617 | GU 3.9
71.140 | US Desert Sand | US Arena Desierto | FS30279 | ANA616 | GU 3.1
71.255 | Light Blue RLM65 | RLM65 Hellblau | RLM65 | GU 1.7
71.256 | Green RLM73 | RLM73 Grün | RLM73 | GU 3.2
71.257 | Light Blue RLM76 | RLM76 Lichtblau | RLM76 | GU 1.7
71.258 | Grey Green RLM74 | RLM74 Graugrün | RLM74 | GU 1.4
71.259 | Grey Violet RLM75 | RLM75 Grauviolett | RLM75 | GU 1.5
71.260 | Light Grey RLM63 | RLM63 Hellgrau | RLM63 | GU 1.5
71.263 | Green RLM72 | RLM72 Grün | RLM72 | GU 2.6
71.264 | Brown Violet RLM81 | RLM81 Braunviolett | RLM81 | GU 1.2
71.268 | German Grey | RAL6006 Feldgrau | RAL6006 | GU 2.2
71.270 | Off-White | RAL9001 Weiss | RAL9001 | GU 4.9
71.271 | German Red Brown | RAL8012 Rotbraun | RAL8012 | GU 3.2
71.272 | German Yellow Brown | RAL8000 Gelbbraun | RAL8000 | GU 2.3
71.277 | Dark Gull Gray | Gris Gaviota Oscuro | FS36231 | ANA621 | GU 1.7
71.278 | Sand Yellow RLM79 | RLM79 Sandgelb | RLM79 | GU 3.7
71.279 | Insignia White | Blanco Insignia | FS37875 | ANA601 | GU 5.2
71.294 | US Forest Green | US Verde Bosque | FS34079 | ANA631 | GU 3.1
71.295 | USN Sea Blue | USN Azul Marino | FS35042 | ANA607 | GU 2.2
71.296 | USAAF Light Gray | Curtiss Grey | FS36622 | GU 5.1
71.298 | M495 Light Gray | M495 Gris Claro | FS36357 | GU 1.8
71.299 | Intermediate Blue | Azul Intermedio | FS35164 | ANA608 | GU 2.5
71.300 | Glossy Sea Blue | Azul Mar Brillante | FS15042 | ANA623 | GU 24.6
71.306 | Sky Blue | Azul Cielo | FS35550 | GU 3.5
71.316 | N. 41 Dark Olive Drab | N. 41 Verde Oliva Oscuro | GU 2.9

If the paint is on that list and it is not Humbrol 90, then it is worse match than DE00 5.0.

I tried to make some mixes. Not super good results neither, I have two from Tamiya:

Closer match but really not fun to mix due to large ratios:

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #B6C196
       XF-2 Flat White: 22
       XF-4 Yellow Green: 1
       XF-5 Flat Green: 2

   DE00: 0.78

And less close match but more reasonable from measurements point of view

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #BAC294
       XF-2 Flat White: 13
       XF-4 Yellow Green: 1
       XF-5 Flat Green: 1

   DE00: 1.37

Or if you want, here is a Golden Fluid Acrylics mix (this one is based on MASS parts, not on volume due to paint viscosity)

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #BAC295
       Titanium White: 3
       Titan Buff: 9
       Sap Green Hue: 1

   DE00: 0.68

This is a fun color!

Yes_Man · March 14, 2023

1 hour ago, Casey said:

I can't find FS24524 in the FS database I have but there is FS34524... I was baffled by this reference before too - it seems the reference suggests it is a semi-gloss version of 34524.

From my understanding (could be wrong!) the first number in the FS code states its sheen: 1 is for gloss, 2 for semi-gloss and 3 for semi-matt. Generally these are interchangeable however I have seen some FS codes that are exclusively available in only one or two sheens and not others, which is why I think you couldn't find it in your deck at first. Pretty sure you worked this out anyway but it's worth remembering in case it comes up again. The colour should still be the same it's just the finish that's different.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Yes_Man

Troy Smith · March 14, 2023

On 08/09/2008 at 09:32, Edgar said:

As you say, personal preference, only my interpretation comes from close inspection of never-repainted panels from a genuine Mk.I. They were also interior sections, so had not been subjected to direct sunlight, in fact we had to wipe (using water) away layers of dirt. I've found increasing numbers of Supermarine, or Castle Bromwich, Spitfires, which appear to have had the similar shade, while Westland, after its initial use (AR213 being the example I saw,) seem to have gone over to the "normal" colour. Hawker used "Humbrol 78" as did many other manufacturers, but Supermarine seem, for some time, to have continued to use their own colour, which appeared in the S6B cockpit (the one in the Science Museum, not Southampton, which appears to have been B&Q-ised.) If you read the Patrick Stevens book, on the Airfix 1/24th kit, you'll find a recommended paint mix, for a "sickly" green which is nowhere near Humbrol's 78.

Edgar

On 09/09/2008 at 19:02, Edgar said:

Ohhh, that Southampton airframe is the one that bothers me a heck of a lot, not least because there's not a hint of wear, unlike the Science Museum's S6B, which is absolutely filthy.

As for the interior colour(s,) I've now seen more than one Spitfire with colours very close to, or an exact match for, Humbrol's 90, but the mix, advocated in the Stevens book, came about as a result of inspection of the Imperial War Museum's Mk.I, which I've never seen, since it's still hanging up.

The Mk.I, at Cosford, was painted with a colour matched to the original, during its rebuild; again, I've not had an opportunity to look inside.

Strangely, Humbrol's 120 is a colour that Accurate Miniatures have recommended for Mustang interiors, and that's one area I'm not going into!

Edgar

This comes from a 1980 book (one of a pair,) solely on cockpit photos, which, for some reason, are, at times, inordinately difficult to scan. This is the first time that it's worked, and is the Science Museum's S6B, which may explain my reticence over the Southampton S6.

In the Stevens book, the authors used M16 Duck-Egg Green, for their model (is it the same as today's 23 Duck Egg Blue, because I don't know?) Their preferred mix, however, was 1 Eau-de-Nil Gloss (now long gone,) with a "slight touch" of 38 Lime Green Gloss (still available.) I have a suspicion that 90 was introduced as this mix, but can't say for sure.

My remark about B&Q wasn't meant as a jibe, but, if, as I suspect, the Southampton airframe is the one that was on display in the open, for years, at Heathrow, it's very likely that the cockpit needed some urgent attention.

A couple of Edgar posts from from 2008.

On 09/03/2023 at 18:16, Dave Wilko said:

The original Airfix Spit Mk.1 1/24th scale kit called for "Sky" in the cockpit, but that was always thought to be too light a shade.

erm.... being pedantic, Airfix made their own range of paint. The call was for M16 Duck Green

https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/8/2/5/171825-93-instructions.pdf

this is a scan of the mid 70's instructions.

A conversion table says M16 = Humbrol 23, but it doesn't (side note, Airfix paint had Humbrol equivalents, but they were not very close

Air recommended M8 for Ducker Egg Blue

A list here https://www.vintage-airfix.com/airfix-history/airfix-to-humbrol-paint-list/

says M8 = H90

and M16 = M23

They don't. i think these two have been inverted at some point and m8 - H23, and M16 = H90

Note in the link M16 is called 'vellum' though a look at a 70's boxing of an Airfix Hurricane says M16 duck egg green.

I have remains if a 1/24th Airfix Spitfire. Built Xmas 1976, and I used Airfix paint by choice unless I was enough for the colour to unavailable, I recall my disgust at the weird blue green Humbrol 30 when I was 9, while being assured by the shop M3 = H30.

They were wrong, I still have kits done in both.

Anyway, IIRC my kit was done oper the instructions and the insides are M16

Airfix did recommend M8 for the undersides for the 1/24th Hurricane, see page 14, and also did a cockpit grey green, M20, also called out.

https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/5/7/7/538577-62-instructions.pdf

Sorry, rambling away from the point on historical matches for Spitfire cockpit, and i can't find my copy of the book mentioned, or more precisely. don't have time to search in the various places it maybe stashed right now.... But, I seems to recall the paint mix being to do with photographinc the model under construction....

And found it..

"the rest of the cockpit interior was a sickly green shade of protective paint, similar to Humbrol duck egg green (M16) and this is the colour I used, as I required a matt colour for photographic purposes. A better shade is Humbrol No 1 Eau-De-Nil gloss with a slight touch of gloss Lime No.38, matted down to obtain a slight surface sheen."

Note, M16 an Airfix paint code. Humbrol 90 did not exist then.

I'll @John as he's the archivist of old paints.

One of the detail shots has P7350 stencilled in the wheel well,

"P7350 IIa CBAF 14 CBAF MXII 6MU 18-8-40 266Sq 6-9-40 603Sq 17-10-40 CB 1CRU 31-10-40 616Sq 18-3-41 64Sq 10-4-41 Scottish Aviation 5-8-41 CGS 27-4-42 57OTU CB 4-2-43 AST sold scrap J.Dale Donated RAF Colerne. Used in BoB film G-AWIJ Extant with BBMF Coningsby"

and there is also a note that the "harness - air force blue/lavender" impying a post war blue harness, not unsurprising for a BBMF plane.

Sadly the images Edgar posted of unrestored bits are now gone, though IIRC one image looked a lot like this, actually looking at the file name

http://www.skyline-apa.com.au/Models/Brooks-Spit/early-Spitfire-seat.jpg it's the same one

thuis is captioned "wreckage of Spitfire L1037", note the quite dark green on the spars at the bottom of the picture,

from

Note the most cohesive post I have ever made here, but I hope has some useful bits of information.

2996 Victor · March 15, 2023

11 hours ago, Casey said:

I hear you.

I can't find FS24524 in the FS database I have but there is FS34524... I was baffled by this reference before too - it seems the reference suggests it is a semi-gloss version of 34524.

But when it comes to 34524 itself, it looks pretty grim.

Amongst all the paint I've checked there is only one very poor match:

Target: 34524, RGB: #B7C295 (L*=76.09, a=-8.29, b=21.04)
   Colors in: Humbrol (compared with 182 paints)
       DE00: 3.68 - #B8C6A5 - Humbrol - AB0090 | No 90 | Beige Green - Matt | GU 9.5 (L*=77.69, a=-7.88, b=14.89)


Target is on the left. Here is the list of paints I've checked:

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Paint set: Humbrol (182 paints)
A1701 | No 157 | Azure Blue - Matt | GU 1.3
A6238 | No 187 | Dark Stone - Matt | GU 1.5
AA0046 | No 46 | Orange - Matt | GU 8.5
AA0059 | No 5 | Dark Admiralty Grey - Gloss | GU 90.8
AA0076 | No 7 | Light Buff - Gloss| GU 95.2
AA0134 | No 12 | Copper - Metallic | GU 8.7 | Metallic
AA0173 | No 173 | Track Colour - Matt | GU 1.3
AA0234 | No 234 | Dark Flesh - Matt | GU 4.4
AA0343 | No 31 | Slate Grey - Matt | GU 7.5
AA0360 | No 33 | Black - Matt | GU 2.2
AA0549 | No 50 | Green Mist - Metallic | GU 94.3 | Metallic
AA0552 | No 51 | Sunset Red - Metallic | GU 95.3 | Metallic
AA0583 | No 53 | Gunmetal - Metallic | GU 1.2 | Metallic
AA0727 | No 65 | Aircraft Blue - Matt | GU 5.0
AA0770 | No 66 | Olive Drab - Matt | GU 5.9
AA0775 | No 70 | Brick Red - Matt | GU 3.1
AA0802 | No 73 | Wine - Matt | GU 1.3
AA0816 | No 74 | Linen - Matt | GU 7.9
AA0833 | No 75 | Bronze Green - Matt | GU 2.0
AA0847 | No 76 | Uniform Green - Matt | GU 2.1
AA0850 | No 77 | Navy Blue - Matt | GU 1.7
AA0878 | No 79 | Blue Grey - Matt | GU 4.3
AA0905 | No 82 | Orange Lining - Matt | GU 4.1
AA0919 | No 83 | Ochre - Matt | GU 5.3
AA0922 | No 84 | Mid Stone - Matt | GU 4.1
AA0967 | No 87 | Steel Grey - Matt | GU 6.9
AA0970 | No 88 | Deck Green - Matt | GU 2.0
AA1105 | No 100 | Red Brown - Matt | GU 3.8
AA1119 | No 101 | Mid Green - Matt | GU 2.9
AA1167 | No 105 | Marine Green - Matt | GU 7.1
AA1287 | No 116 | US Dark Green - Matt | GU 2.1
AA1314 | No 119 | Light Earth - Matt | GU 4.5
AA1328 | No 120 | Light Green - Matt | GU 3.1
AA1331 | No 121 | Pale Stone - Matt | GU 7.0
AA1376 | No 125 | US Dark Grey - Satin | GU 11.4
AA1393 | No 126 | US Medium Grey - Satin | GU 37.9
AA1417 | No 128 | US Compass Grey - Satin | GU 31.6
AA1420 | No 129 | US Gull Grey - Satin | GU 21.6
AA1448 | No 131 | Mid Green - Satin | GU 21.1
AA1451 | No 132 | Red - Satin | GU 11.0
AA1465 | No 133 | Brown - Satin | GU 33.0
AA1496 | No 28 | Camouflage Grey - Matt | GU 17.2
AA1523 | No 140 | Gull Grey - Matt | GU 5.4
AA1568 | No 144 | Intermediate Blue - Matt | GU 4.8
AA1571 | No 145 | Medium Grey - Matt | GU 11.6
AA1599 | No 147 | Light Grey - Matt | GU 6.1
AA1609 | No 148 | Radome Tan - Matt | GU 19.1
AA1612 | No 149 | Dark Green - Matt | GU 2.9
AA1626 | No 150 | Forest Green - Matt | GU 1.4
AA1729 | No 159 | Khaki Drab - Matt | GU 2.0
AA1780 | No 164 | Dark Sea Grey - Satin | GU 25.9
AA1804 | No 166 | Light Aircraft Grey - Satin | GU 54.6
AA2240 | No 240 | RLM 02 Grau - Matt | GU 3.9
AA2241 | No 241 | RLM 70 Schwartzgrun - Matt | GU 2.2
AA2241 | No 241 | RLM 70 Schwartzgrun - Matt | GU 3.0
AA2242 | No 242 | RLM 71 Dunkelgrun - Matt | GU 1.0
AA2247 | No 247 | RLM 76 Lichtblau - Matt | GU 13.9
AA2248 | No 248 | RLM 78 Himmelblau - Matt | GU 3.0
AA2252 | No 252 | RLM 82 Olivgrun - Matt | GU 2.2
AA2253 | No 253 | RLM 83 Dunkelgrun - Matt | GU 2.4
AA6330 | No 195 | Dark Green - Satin | GU 31.5
AA6344 | No 196 | Light Grey - Satin | GU 29.9
AA6389 | No 200 | Pink - Gloss | GU 91.8
AA6392 | No 201 | Black - Metallic | GU 91.3 | Metallic
AA6608 | No 220 | Racing Red - Gloss | GU 100.0
AA7222 | No 222 | Moonlight Blue - Metallic | GU 95.0 | Metallic
AA7224 | No 224 | Dark Slate Grey - Matt | GU 3.0
AA7225 | No 225 | Middle Stone - Matt | GU 2.6
AB0047 | No 47 | Sea Blue - Gloss | GU 65.0
AB0052 | No 52 | Baltic Blue - Metallic | GU 78.7 | Metallic
AB0065 | No 65 | Aircraft Blue - Matt | GU 6.3
AB0078 | No 78 | Cockpit Green - Matt | GU 4.1
AB0090 | No 90 | Beige Green - Matt | GU 9.5
AB0091 | No 91 | Black Green - Matt | GU 1.6
AB0094 | No 94 | Brown Yellow - Matt | GU 2.2
AB0104 | No 104 | Oxford Blue - Matt | GU 1.4
AB0145 | No 145 | Medium Grey - Matt | GU 2.4
AB0165 | No 165 | Medium Sea Grey - Satin | GU 17.2
AB0167 | No 167 | RAF Barley Grey - Satin | GU 9.2
AB0168 | No 168 | Hemp - Satin | GU 33.8
AB0226 | No 226 | Interior Green - Matt | GU 2.3
AB0230 | No 230 | Pru Blue - Matt | GU 1.3
AB0237 | No 237 | Desert Tan - Matt | GU 1.3
AB0238 | No 238 | Arrow Red - Gloss | GU 65.7
AB0239 | No 239 | British Racing Green - Gloss | GU 56.0
AB0240 | No 240 | RLM 02 Grau - Matt | GU 1.3
AB0241 | No 241 | RLM 70 Schwartzgrun - Matt | GU 4.0
AB0243 | No 243 | RLM 72 Grun - Matt | GU 1.5
AB0244 | No 244 | RLM 73 Grun - Matt | GU 1.4
AB0245 | No 245 | RLM 74 Graugrun - Matt | GU 0.9
AB0246 | No 246 | RLM 75 Grauviolett - Matt | GU 1.3
AB0247 | No 247 | RLM 76 Lichtblau - Matt | GU 12.9
AB0249 | No 249 | RLM 79 Sandgelb - Matt | GU 1.5
AB0251 | No 251 | RLM 81 Dunkelbraun - Matt | GU 0.7
AB0252 | No 252 | RLM 82 Olivgrun - Matt | GU 0.7
AB0253 | No 253 | RLM 83 Dunkelgrun - Matt | GU 0.8
DB0001 | No 1 | Primer | GU 5.6
DB0002 | No 2 | Emerald Green - Gloss | GU 79.8
DB0003 | No 3 | Brunswick Green - Gloss | GU 63.0
DB0009 | No 9 | Tan - Gloss | GU 76.9
DB0010 | No 10 | Service Brown - Gloss | GU 78.0
DB0011 | No 11 | Silver - Metallic | GU 6.7 | Metallic
DB0012 | No 12 | Copper - Metallic | GU 48.2 | Metallic
DB0014 | No 14 | French Blue - Gloss | GU 80.5
DB0015 | No 15 | Midnight Blue - Gloss | GU 79.7
DB0016 | No 16 | Gold - Metallic | GU 6.4 | Metallic
DB0018 | No 18 | Orange - Gloss | GU 78.0
DB0019 | No 19 | Red - Gloss | GU 90.2
DB0020 | No 20 | Crimson - Gloss | GU 84.2
DB0021 | No 21 | Black - Gloss | GU 45.3
DB0022 | No 22 | White - Gloss | GU 65.9
DB0023 | No 23 | Duck Egg Blue - Matt | GU 4.3
DB0024 | No 24 | Trainer Yellow - Matt | GU 3.6
DB0025 | No 25 | Blue - Matt | GU 5.1
DB0026 | No 26 | Khaki - Matt | GU 3.4
DB0027 | No 27 | Sea Grey - Matt | GU 10.5
DB0029 | No 29 | Dark Earth - Matt | GU 3.6
DB0030 | No 30 | Dark Green - Matt | GU 3.2
DB0032 | No 32 | Dark Grey - Matt | GU 11.2
DB0033 | No 33 | Black - Matt | GU 3.9
DB0034 | No 34 | White - Matt | GU 6.5
DB0036 | No 36 | Pastel Green - Matt | GU 6.9
DB0037 | No 37 | Bright Green - Matt | GU 3.9
DB0038 | No 38 | Lime - Gloss | GU 82.8
DB0040 | No 40 | Pale Grey - Gloss | GU 65.2
DB0041 | No 41 | Ivory - Gloss | GU 58.2
DB0042 | No 42 | Pastel Violet - Matt | GU 4.8
DB0044 | No 44 | Pastel Blue - Matt | GU 7.0
DB0048 | No 48 | Mediterranean Blue - Gloss | GU 71.1
DB0053 | No 53 | Gunmetal - Metallic | GU 6.1 | Metallic
DB0054 | No 54 | Brass - Metallic | GU 8.0 | Metallic
DB0055 | No 55 | Bronze - Metallic | GU 6.7 | Metallic
DB0056 | No 56 | Aluminium - Metallic | GU 14.6 | Metallic
DB0057 | No 57 | Pink - Matt | GU 5.2
DB0058 | No 58 | Magenta - Matt | GU 6.4
DB0060 | No 60 | Scarlett - Matt | GU 3.5
DB0061 | No 61 | Flesh - Matt | GU 5.9
DB0062 | No 62 | Leather - Matt | GU 3.5
DB0063 | No 63 | Sand - Matt | GU 7.1
DB0064 | No 64 | Light Grey - Matt | GU 5.9
DB0067 | No 67 | Matt Tank Grey - Matt | GU 5.2
DB0068 | No 68 | Purple - Gloss | GU 79.1
DB0069 | No 69 | Yellow - Gloss | GU 93.5
DB0071 | No 71 | Oak - Satin | GU 19.7
DB0072 | No 72 | Khaki Drill - Matt | GU 6.8
DB0080 | No 80 | Grass Green - Matt | GU 3.6
DB0081 | No 81 | Pale Yellow - Matt | GU 1.9
DB0085 | No 85 | Black - Satin | GU 19.5
DB0085 | No 86 | Light Olive - Matt | GU 9.2
DB0089 | No 89 | Middle Blue - Matt | GU 5.4
DB0093 | No 93 | Desert Yellow - Matt | GU 4.5
DB0096 | No 96 | RAF Blue - Matt | GU 6.6
DB0098 | No 98 | Chocolate - Matt | GU 3.0
DB0099 | No 99 | Lemon - Matt | GU 8.5
DB0102 | No 102 | Army Green - Matt | GU 4.6
DB0103 | No 103 | Cream - Matt | GU 6.1
DB0106 | No 106 | Ocean Grey - Matt | GU 4.4
DB0109 | No 109 | WWI Blue - Matt | GU 4.7
DB0110 | No 110 | Natural Wood - Matt | GU 6.4
DB0113 | No 113 | Rust - Matt | GU 4.9
DB0117 | No 117 | US Light Green - Matt | GU 3.5
DB0118 | No 118 | US Tan - Matt | GU 5.6
DB0123 | No 123 | Extra Dark Sea Grey - Satin | GU 18.4
DB0127 | No 127 | US Ghost Grey - Satin | GU 19.7
DB0130 | No 130 | White - Satin | GU 27.3
DB0153 | No 153 | Insignia Red - Matt | GU 4.1
DB0154 | No 154 | Insignia Yellow - Matt | GU 9.6
DB0155 | No 155 | Olive Drab - Matt | GU 6.2
DB0156 | No 156 | Dark Camouflage Grey - Satin | GU 7.3
DB0160 | No 160 | German Camouflage Red - Matt | GU 4.9
DB0163 | No 163 | Dark Green - Satin | GU 21.8
DB0171 | No 171 | Antique Bronze - Metallic | GU 7.1 | Metallic
DB0174 | No 174 | Signal Red - Satin | GU 25.2
DB0186 | No 186 | Brown - Matt | GU 4.5
DB0189 | No 189 | Chrome Silver - Metallic | GU 89.6 | Metallic
DB0208 | No 208 | Fluorescent Signal Green - Gloss | GU 11.3 | Fluorescent
DB0209 | No 209 | Fire Orange - Gloss | GU 20.2 | Fluorescent
DB0242 | No 242 | RLM 71 Dunkelgrun - Matt | GU 1.5
MET27001 | No 27001 | Aluminium - Metalcote | GU 5.2 | Metallic
MET27002 | No 27002 | Polished Aluminium - Metalcote | GU 10.8 | Metallic
MET27003 | No 27003 | Polished Steel - Metalcote | GU 47.4 | Metallic
MET27004 | No 27004 | Gunmetal - Metalcote | GU 5.2 | Metallic

Paint set: Revell (86 paints)
36104 | White | RAL 9010 | GU 72.8
36105 | White | RAL 9001 | GU 5.7
36106 | Tar black | RAL 9021 | GU 2.3
36107 | Black | RAL 9005 | GU 79.8
36108 | Black | RAL 9011 | GU 1.4
36109 | Anthracite | RAL 7021 | GU 4.7
36112 | Yellow | RAL 1018 | GU 79.5
36115 | Yellow | RAL 1017 | GU 6.5
36116 | Sandy yellow | RAL 1024 | GU 2.6
36117 | Africa brown | GU 3.1
36125 | Luminous orange | GU 3.5 | Fluorescent
36130 | Orange | RAL 2004 | GU 87.7
36131 | Fiery red | RAL 3000 | GU 90.5
36134 | Italian Red | GU 88.5
36135 | Flesh | GU 5.9
36136 | Carmine red | RAL 3002 | GU 3.0
36137 | Reddish brown | RAL 3009 | GU 1.8
36139 | Dark green | GU 2.2
36140 | Black green | GU 2.1
36142 | Yellowish olive | GU 1.8
36143 | Medium grey USAF | GU 2.9
36145 | Light olive | RAL 7003 | GU 2.2
36146 | Nato olive | RAL 7013 | GU 1.6
36147 | Mouse grey | RAL 7005 | GU 2.4
36148 | Sea green | RAL 6028 | GU 2.1
36149 | Light blue | GU 3.1
36150 | Light blue | RAL 5012 | GU 72.9
36151 | Ultramarine | RAL 5002 | GU 85.4
36152 | Blue | RAL 5005 | GU 82.7
36154 | Night blue | RAL 5022 | GU 85.3
36155 | Light green | RAL 6027 | GU 3.3
36156 | Blue | RAL 5000 | GU 2.2
36157 | Grey | RAL 7000 | GU 3.5
36159 | Sky RAF | GU 3.4
36161 | Emerald green | RAL 6029 | GU 82.3
36162 | Sea green | RAL 6005 | GU 88.5
36165 | Bronze green | RAL 6031 | GU 2.9
36166 | Olive grey | RAL 7010 | GU 2.2
36167 | Greenish grey | RAL 7009 | GU 2.3
36168 | Dark green RAF | GU 2.1
36169 | Granite grey | RAL 7026 | GU 1.6
36174 | Gunship grey | GU 3.1
36175 | Stone grey | RAL 7030 | GU 3.5
36176 | Light grey USAF | GU 4.1
36177 | Dust grey | RAL 7012 | GU 3.8
36178 | Tank grey | RAL 7024 | GU 2.9
36179 | Greyish blue | RAL 7031 | GU 1.9
36180| Mud brown | RAL 8003 | GU 82.2
36182 | Dark earth RAF | GU 2.1
36183 | Rust | GU 1.9
36184 | Leather brown | RAL 8027 | GU 1.9
36185 | Brown | RAL 8023 | GU 2.5
36186 | Olive brown | RAL 7008 | GU 2.2
36187 | Earth brown | RAL 7006 | GU 4.8
36188 | Ochre brown | RAL 1011 | GU 2.4
36189 | Beige | RAL 1019 | GU 2.9
36190 | Silver | GU 76.6 | Metallic
36191 | Steel | GU 4.9 | Metallic
36192 | Brass | GU 54.8 | Metallic
36193 | Copper | GU 60.8 | Metallic
36194 | Gold | GU 53.0 | Metallic
36195 | Bronze | GU 61.5 | Metallic
36199 | Aluminium | GU 9.6 | Metallic
36301 | White | RAL 9010 | GU 20.9
36302 | Black | RAL 9005 | GU 11.1
36310 | Lufthansa Yellow | RAL 1028 | GU 25.6
36312 | Luminous yellow | RAL 1026 | GU 4.9 | Fluorescent
36314 | Beige | RAL 1001 | GU 18.8
36330 | Fiery red | RAL 3000 | GU 16.2
36331 | Purple red | RAL 3004 | GU 17.8
36332 | Luminous red | RAL 3026 | GU 3.7 | Fluorescent
36350 | Lufthansa blue | RAL 5013 | GU 19.6
36360 | Fern green | RAL 6025 | GU 22.2
36361 | Olive green | RAL 6003 | GU 24.5
36362 | Greyish green | RAL 6013 | GU 12.4
36363 | Dark green | RAL 6020 | GU 21.6
36364 | Leaf green | RAL 6001 | GU 20.4
36365 | Patina green | RAL 6000 | GU 38.1
36371 | Light grey | RAL 7035 | GU 17.8
36374 | Grey | RAL 7001 | GU 20.7
36378 | Dark grey | RAL 7012 | GU 28.0
36381 | Brown | RAL 8025 | GU 42.5
36382 | Wood brown | RAL 8001 | GU 24.0
36730 | Orange | GU 87.2 | Opacity 34.45% | Transparent
36731 | Red | GU 93.0 | Opacity 42.21% | Transparent
36752 | Blue | GU 88.5 | Opacity 48.3 | Transparent

Paint set: Vallejo (123 paints)
71.001 | White | Blanco | FS37925 | RAL9016 | RLM21 | GU 3.5
71.002 | Medium Yellow | Amarillo Medio | GU 3.0
71.003 | Red RLM 23 | RLM23 Rot | RLM23 | GU 1.6
71.004 | Blue | Azul | GU 1.4
71.005 | Grey Blue | Azul Gris | RAL5008 | GU 1.5
71.006 | Light Green Chromate | Verde Claro Chromo | GU 1.3
71.007 | Olive Green | Verde Oliva | GU 1.2
71.008 | Pale Blue | Azul Claro | FS35414 | GU 2.0
71.009 | Eau De Nil "D.E. Green" | Verde Huevo Pato | BS216 | GU 1.8
71.010 | Interior Green | Verde Interior | FS34098 | GU 3.5
71.011 | Dark Green RLM83 | RLM83 Dunkelgrün | RLM83 | GU 1.2
71.012 | Dark Green | Verde Oscuro | GU 2.6
71.013 | Yellow Olive | Oliva Amarillo | FS34062 | RAL6016 | GU 3.7
71.014 | Gunship Green | Verde Acorazado | GU 2.7
71.015 | Dark Green RLM71 | RLM71 Dunkelgrün | RLM71 | GU 2.0
71.015 | Dark Green RLM71 | RLM71 Dunkelgrün | RLM71 | GU 2.6
71.016 | USAF Olive Drab | USAF Verde Oliva | FS34088 | ANA613 | GU 2.6
71.017 | Russian Green 4BO | Verde Ruso 4BO | FS34082 | GU 2.6
71.018 | Black Green | Verde Negro | GU 3.2
71.019 | Cam. Dark Green | RAL6007 Grün | FS34083 | RAL6007 | GU 3.5
71.020 | Green Brown | Verde Pardo | GU 2.0
71.021 | Black Green RLM70 | RLM70 Schwarzgrün | RLM70 | GU 0.6
71.021 | Black Green RLM70 | RLM70 Schwarzgrün | RLM70 | GU 3.3
71.022 | Light Green RLM82 | RLM82 Hellgrün | RLM82 | GU 0.8
71.022 | Light Green RLM82 | RLM82 Hellgrün | RLM82 | GU 1.3
71.023 | Hemp | Tan Green | FS34201 | GU 2.8
71.024 | Khaki Brown | Marron Caqui | GU 2.4
71.025 | Dark Yellow | RAL7028 Dunkelgelb | RAL7028 | GU 3.0
71.026 | US Flat Brown | Marron US | FS30215 | GU 2.5
71.027 | Light Brown | Marron Claro | GU 5.2
71.028 | Sand Yellow | Amarillo Arena | GU 4.2
71.029 | Dark Earth | Tierra Oscura | GU 1.0
71.030 | Brown Green | Marron Verdoso | GU 1.7
71.031 | Middlestone | Piedra Medio | GU 1.5
71.032 | Golden Brown | Marron Dorado | GU 1.2
71.033 | Yellow Ochre | RAL1006 Gelb | RAL1006 | GU 1.7
71.034 | Sand Brown | Marron Arena | GU 1.6
71.035 | Cam. Pale Brown | Cam. Pardo Claro | FS30140 | RAL8025 | GU 2.1
71.036 | Mahogany | Caoba | GU 1.9
71.037 | Mud Brown | Marron Lodo | GU 2.0
71.038 | Cam. Medium Brown | Cam Pardo Medio | FS30097 | GU 1.3
71.039 | Hull Red | Marron Rojizo | GU 2.6
71.040 | Burnt Umber | Sombra Tostada | RAL8014 | GU 1.6
71.041 | Armour Brown | RAL8017 Rotbraun | RAL8017 | GU 1.1
71.042 | Dark Brown RLM61 | RLM61 Dunkelbraun | RLM61 | GU 1.3
71.042 | Dark Brown RLM61 | RLM61 Dunkelbraun | RLM61 | GU 1.6
71.043 | US Olive Drab | US Verde Oliva | FS34087 | GU 3.0
71.044 | Grey RLM02 | RLM02 Grau | RLM02 | GU 1.8
71.044 | Grey RLM02 | RLM02 Grau | RLM02 | GU 1.9
71.045 | Cement Grey | Gris Cemento | RAL7033 | GU 2.8
71.046 | Pale Blue Grey | Azul Gris Claro | GU 3.6
71.047 | Grey | Gris | GU 2.0
71.048 | Engine Grey | Gris Motor | FS36076 | GU 2.2
71.049 | Sea Grey | Gris Mar | GU 3.2
71.050 | Light Gray | Gris Claro | FS36300 | RAL7046 | GU 3.1
71.051 | Neutral Gray | Gris Neutral | FS36173 | GU 3.4
71.052 | Anthracite Grey | Gris Antracita | GU 2.2
71.053 | Dark Sea Grey | Gris Mar Osc. | FS36099 | RAL7011 | GU 2.9
71.054 | Dark Grey Blue | Gris Azul Oscuro | RAL7024 | GU 2.2
71.055 | Black Grey RLM66 | RLM66 Schwarzgrau | RLM66 | GU 1.7
71.055 | Black Grey RLM66 | RLM66 Schwarzgrau | RLM66 | GU 3.3
71.056 | Panzer Dk. Grey | RAL7021 Dunkelgrau | RAL7021 | GU 1.6
71.057 | Black | Negro | FS37038 | RAL9004 | RLM22 | ANA604 | BS642 | GU 1.3
71.062 | Aluminium | Aluminio | GU 45.5 | Metallic
71.063 | Silver RLM01 | RLM01 Silber | RLM01 | GU 38.8 | Metallic
71.064 | Chrome | Cromo | FS17178 | GU 41.7 | Metallic
71.065 | Steel | Acero | GU 29.0 | Metallic
71.066 | Gold | Oro | FS17043 | GU 19.8 | Metallic
71.067 | Bright Brass | Laton | GU 32.1 | Metallic
71.068 | Copper | Cobre | GU 11.1 | Metallic
71.069 | Rust | Oxido | GU 7.1 | Metallic
71.070 | Signal Red | Rojo Señal | GU 6.2 | Metallic
71.071 | Arctic Blue | Azul Artico | GU 6.3 | Metallic
71.072 | Gunmetal | Fusil | FS37200 | GU 17.3 | Metallic
71.075 | Ivory | RAL1001 Elfenbein | RAL1001 | GU 3.9
71.076 | Skin Tone | Color Piel | GU 5.1
71.078 | Yellow RLM04 | RLM04 Gelb | FS33538 | RLM04 | ANA614 | BS356 | GU 2.5
71.078 | Yellow RLM04 | RLM04 Gelb | FS33538 | RLM04 | ANA614 | BS356 | GU 2.7
71.080 | Rust | Oxido | FS30111 | BS435 | GU 2.7
71.084 | Fire Red | Rojo Fuego | GU 3.1
71.090 | Deep Sky | Azul Oscuro | FS35056 | GU 1.9
71.092 | Medium Olive | RAL6003 Olivgrün | RAL6003 | GU 1.9
71.097 | Medium Gunship Gray | Gris Medio USAF | FS36118 | ANA603 | GU 3.1
71.101 | Light Blue RLM78 | RLM78 Hellblau | RLM78 | GU 5.3
71.103 | Grey Blue RLM84 | RLM84 Graublau | FS36559 | RLM84 | GU 1.7
71.104 | Green RLM62 | RLM62 Grün | RLM62 | GU 3.4
71.107 | US Interior Green | US Amarillo Inter. | GU 3.0
71.108 | Uk Azure Blue | Uk Azul Azure | FS35231 | ANA609 | GU 3.1
71.109 | Faded P.R.U. Blue | M485 Blue Gray | FS35189 | BS636 | GU 1.6
71.115 | Blue Grey | RAL7016 Blaugrau | RAL7016 | GU 2.0
71.116 | Camouflage Grey Green | RAL7008 Graugrün | RAL7008 | GU 2.3
71.117 | Camouflage Brown | RAL8020 Braun | RAL8020 | GU 3.0
71.118 | Camouflage Grey | RAL7027 Grau | RAL7027 | GU 2.7
71.119 | White Grey | RAL9002 Grauweiss | RAL9002 | GU 5.2
71.121 | Light Gull Gray | Gris Gaviota USN | FS36440 | ANA620 | GU 2.6
71.124 | USAF Green | Verde USAF | FS34092-ANA612 | GU 2.7
71.125 | USAF Brown | Marrón USAF | FS30219 | ANA628 | GU 2.6
71.137 | US Light Green | US Verde Claro | FS34151 | ANA611 | GU 3.1
71.139 | US Field Drab | US Marrón Verdoso | FS30118 | ANA617 | GU 3.9
71.140 | US Desert Sand | US Arena Desierto | FS30279 | ANA616 | GU 3.1
71.255 | Light Blue RLM65 | RLM65 Hellblau | RLM65 | GU 1.7
71.256 | Green RLM73 | RLM73 Grün | RLM73 | GU 3.2
71.257 | Light Blue RLM76 | RLM76 Lichtblau | RLM76 | GU 1.7
71.258 | Grey Green RLM74 | RLM74 Graugrün | RLM74 | GU 1.4
71.259 | Grey Violet RLM75 | RLM75 Grauviolett | RLM75 | GU 1.5
71.260 | Light Grey RLM63 | RLM63 Hellgrau | RLM63 | GU 1.5
71.263 | Green RLM72 | RLM72 Grün | RLM72 | GU 2.6
71.264 | Brown Violet RLM81 | RLM81 Braunviolett | RLM81 | GU 1.2
71.268 | German Grey | RAL6006 Feldgrau | RAL6006 | GU 2.2
71.270 | Off-White | RAL9001 Weiss | RAL9001 | GU 4.9
71.271 | German Red Brown | RAL8012 Rotbraun | RAL8012 | GU 3.2
71.272 | German Yellow Brown | RAL8000 Gelbbraun | RAL8000 | GU 2.3
71.277 | Dark Gull Gray | Gris Gaviota Oscuro | FS36231 | ANA621 | GU 1.7
71.278 | Sand Yellow RLM79 | RLM79 Sandgelb | RLM79 | GU 3.7
71.279 | Insignia White | Blanco Insignia | FS37875 | ANA601 | GU 5.2
71.294 | US Forest Green | US Verde Bosque | FS34079 | ANA631 | GU 3.1
71.295 | USN Sea Blue | USN Azul Marino | FS35042 | ANA607 | GU 2.2
71.296 | USAAF Light Gray | Curtiss Grey | FS36622 | GU 5.1
71.298 | M495 Light Gray | M495 Gris Claro | FS36357 | GU 1.8
71.299 | Intermediate Blue | Azul Intermedio | FS35164 | ANA608 | GU 2.5
71.300 | Glossy Sea Blue | Azul Mar Brillante | FS15042 | ANA623 | GU 24.6
71.306 | Sky Blue | Azul Cielo | FS35550 | GU 3.5
71.316 | N. 41 Dark Olive Drab | N. 41 Verde Oliva Oscuro | GU 2.9

Paint set: Hataka (10 paints)
HTK-A009 | Dark Earth | GU 9.1
HTK-A015 | Black-Green (RLM70) | GU 7.9
HTK-A016 | Dark Green | GU 9.6
HTK-A017 | Dark Green (RLM71) | GU 10.5
HTK-A023 | Grey (RLM02) | GU 14.1
HTK-A025 | Interior Grey-Green | GU 17.4
HTK-A026 | Sky "Type S" | GU 13.1
HTK-A029 | Light Blue (RLM65/78) | GU 13.2
HTK-A032 | Ocean Grey | GU 13.3
HTK-A034 | Medium Sea Grey | GU 14.2

Paint set: Tamiya (40 paints)
XF-1 | Flat Black | GU 3.5
XF-10 | Flat Brown | GU 4.1
XF-11 | J.N. Green | GU 3.9
XF-12 | J.N. Gray | GU 1.9
XF-13 | J.A. Green | GU 8.2
XF-14 | J.A. Grey | GU 8.8
XF-15 | Flat Flesh | GU 15.2
XF-16 | Flat Aluminum | GU 6.7 | Metallic
XF-17 | Sea Blue | GU 4.6
XF-18 | Medium Blue | GU 6.5
XF-19 | Sky Grey | GU 7.1
XF-2 | Flat White | GU 7.3
XF-20 | Medium Grey | GU 3.8
XF-21 | Sky | GU 6.7
XF-22 | RLM Grey | GU 4.3
XF-23 | Light Blue | GU 4.5
XF-24 | Dark Grey | GU 5.8
XF-25 | Light Sea Grey | GU 4.5
XF-26 | Deep Green | GU 5.3
XF-27 | Black Green | GU 2.1
XF-28 | Dark Copper | GU 5.3 | Metallic
XF-3 | Flat Yellow | GU 3.8
XF-4 | Yellow Green | GU 5.1
XF-49 | Khaki | GU 5.5
XF-5 | Flat Green | GU 2.8
XF-50 | Field Blue | 7.1
XF-51 | Khaki Drab | GU 4.9
XF-52 | Flat Earth | GU 5.3
XF-53 | Neutral Grey | GU 6.6
XF-54 | Dark Sea Grey | GU 6.5
XF-55 | Deck Tan | GU 19.1
XF-56 | Metallic Grey | GU 6.3 | Metallic
XF-57 | Buff | GU 18.2
XF-58 | Olive Green | GU 6.1
XF-59 | Desert Yellow | GU GU 20.7
XF-6 | Copper | GU 4.5 | Metallic
XF-60 | Dark Yellow | GU 13.0
XF-7 | Flat Red | GU 0.9
XF-8 | Flat Blue | GU 3.4
XF-9 | Hull Red | GU 4.2

Paint set: Lifecolor (12 paints)
UA 501 | RLM 70 - Schwarzgrün | GU 9.2
UA 502 | RLM 71 - Dunkelgrün | GU 11.3
UA 503 | RLM 65 - Hellblau | GU 9.1
UA 504 | RLM 02 Grau | GU 6.5
UA 505 | RLM 79 - Sandgelb II | GU 8.7
UA 506 | RLM 80 Olivgrün | GU 8.1
UA 546 | Dark Green | *FS 34079 | GU 7.0
UA 547 | Dark Earth | *FS 30118 | GU 6.3
UA 548 | Light Green | FS 34102 | GU 6.4
UA 549 | Light Earth | FS 30257 | GU 6.8
UA 550 | Sky | FS 34424 | GU 6.4
UA 551 | Grey Green | FS 34226 | GU 9.0

Paint set: Army Painter Warpaints (104 paints)
WP1101 | Matt Black | GU 0.7
WP1102 | Matt White | GU 3.6
WP1104 | Pure Red | GU 2.5
WP1105 | Dragon Red | GU 2.7
WP1106 | Lava Orange | GU 2
WP1107 | Daemonic Yellow | GU 3.6
WP1108 | Necrotic Flesh | GU 2.1
WP1109 | Goblin Green | GU 0.9
WP1110 | Army Green | GU 2.1
WP1111 | Greenskin | GU 1.2
WP1112 | Angel Green | GU 1.6
WP1113 | Electric Blue | GU 2.2
WP1114 | Crystal Blue | GU 1.7
WP1115 | Ultramarine Blue | GU 2.4
WP1116 | Deep Blue | GU 4.3
WP1117 | Ash Grey | GU 1.4
WP1118 | Uniform Grey | GU 1.6
WP1119 | Wolf Grey | GU 2
WP1120 | Monster Brown | GU 1.7
WP1121 | Desert Yellow | GU 2.1
WP1122 | Fur Brown | GU 3.1
WP1123 | Leather Brown | GU 3.3
WP1124 | Oak Brown | GU 1.9
WP1125 | Skeleton Bone | GU 2.5
WP1126 | Barbarian Flesh | GU 1.5
WP1127 | Tanned Flesh | GU 1.3
WP1128 | Alien Purple | GU 1.7
WP1129 | Shining Silver | GU 28.6 | Metallic
WP1130 | Plate Mail Metal | GU 33.8 | Metallic
WP1131 | Gun Metal | GU 28.2 | Metallic
WP1132 | Greedy Gold | GU 32.6 | Metallic
WP1133 | Weapon Bronze | GU 39.2 | Metallic
WP1141 | Hydra Turquoise | GU 2
WP1142 | Chaotic Red | GU 1.3
WP1144 | Bright Gold | GU 24.7 | Metallic
WP1401 | Abomination Gore | GU 2.8
WP1402 | Arid Earth | GU 2.4
WP1403 | Babe Blonde | GU 4.8
WP1404 | Banshee Brown | GU 1.5
WP1405 | Basilisk Brown | GU 2.7
WP1406 | Brainmatter Beige | GU 3.9
WP1407 | Castle Grey | GU 1.6
WP1408 | Centaur Skin | GU 2.2
WP1409 | Combat Fatigues | GU 3.2
WP1410 | Commando Green | GU 3.1
WP1411 | Corpse Pale | GU 3.3
WP1412 | Crusted Sore | GU 1.3
WP1413 | Crypt Wraith | GU 1.9
WP1414 | Cultist Robe | GU 1.3
WP1415 | Dark Sky | GU 8.4
WP1416 | Dirt Spatter | GU 1.7
WP1417 | Drake Tooth | GU 2
WP1418 | Dungeon Grey | GU 1.1
WP1419 | Elemental Bolt | GU 2.5
WP1420 | Elf Green | GU 2.7
WP1421 | Elven Flesh | GU 2.6
WP1422 | Orc Blood | GU 2.3
WP1424 | Filthy Cape | GU 2.4
WP1425 | Dark Stone | GU 2.6
WP1426 | Fire Lizard | GU 4.2
WP1427 | Fog Grey | GU 1.4
WP1428 | Gorgon Hide | GU 2.3
WP1429 | Griffon Blue | GU 1.9
WP1430 | Hardened Carpace | GU 1.8
WP1431 | Hemp Rope | GU 3
WP1432 | Ice Storm | GU 1.7
WP1433 | Jungle Green | GU 2.9
WP1434 | Kobold Skin | GU 2.4
WP1435 | Kraken Skin | GU 4.2
WP1436 | Mars Red | GU 3.1
WP1437 | Toxic Mist | GU 1.8
WP1438 | Moon Dust | GU 3.8
WP1439 | Mouldy Clothes | GU 1.4
WP1440 | Mummy Robes | GU 4.1
WP1441 | Mutant Hue | GU 1.9
WP1442 | Mythical Orange | GU 4.4
WP1443 | Necromancer Cloak | GU 1.3
WP1444 | Grimoire Purple | GU 1.7
WP1445 | Oozing Purple | GU 1.6
WP1446 | Phoenix Flames | GU 3.5
WP1447 | Pixie Pink | GU 1.3
WP1448 | Poisonous Cloud | GU 4.4
WP1449 | Royal Cloak | GU 3.5
WP1450 | Scaly Hide | GU 3.2
WP1451 | Warlock Purple | GU 2.4
WP1452 | Voidshield Blue | GU 1.9
WP1453 | Snake Scales | GU 2.5
WP1454 | Spaceship Exterior | GU 2.4
WP1455 | Stone Golem | GU 2
WP1456 | Sulfide Ochre | GU 2.6
WP1457 | Toxic Boils | GU 1.8
WP1458 | Troglodyte Blue | GU 1.5
WP1459 | Troll Claws | GU 3.7
WP1460 | Vampire Red | GU 2.7
WP1461 | Venom Wyrm | GU 3.5
WP1462 | Viking Blue | GU 3
WP1463 | Wasteland Soil | GU 2
WP1464 | Werewolf Fur | GU 2.6
WP1465 | Witch Brew | GU 3.6
WP1466 | Wizards Orb | GU 0.9
WP1467 | True Copper | GU 28.3 | Metallic
WP1468 | Rough Iron | GU 16.3 | Metallic
WP1480 | Scar Tissue | GU 1.9
WP1481 | Field Grey | GU 2.3

Paint set: Golden Fluid Acrylics (53 paints)
2005 | Anthraquinone Blue
2008 | Benzimidazolone Yellow Medium
2009 | Benzimidazolone Yellow Light
2010 | Bone Black
2020 | Burnt Sienna
2035 | Burnt Umber Light
2040 | Carbon Black
2050 | Cerulean Blue, Chromium
2051 | Cerulean Blue Deep
2060 | Chromium Oxide Green
2140 | Cobalt Blue
2147 | Diarylide Yellow
2150 | Dioxazine Purple
2191 | Hansa Yellow Opaque
2210 | Naphthol Red Light
2220 | Naphthol Red Medium
2240 | Payne's Gray
2250B | Permanent Green Light
2255 | Phthalo Blue (Green Shade)
2270 | Phthalo Green (Blue Shade)
2275 | Phthalo Green (Yellow Shade)
2276 | Pyrrole Orange
2277 | Pyrrole Red
2279 | Pyrrole Red Light
2290 | Quinacridone Crimson
2301 | Quinacridone/Nickel Azo Gold
2305 | Quinacridone Magenta
2310 | Quinacridone Red
2330 | Quinacridone Violet
2340 | Raw Sienna
2350 | Raw Umber
2360 | Red Oxide
2369 | Teal
2370 | Titan Buff
2371 | Titan Green Pale
2380 | Titanium White
2385 | Transparent Red Iron Oxide
2386 | Transparent Yellow Iron Oxide
2400 | Ultramarine Blue
2401 | Ultramarine Violet
2403 | Vat Orange
2407 | Yellow Ochre
2410 | Yellow Oxide
2420 | Primary Cyan
2421 | Primary Magenta
2422B | Primary Yellow
2425 | Cadmium Red Medium Hue
2428B | Cadmium Yellow Medium Hue
2436B | Indian Yellow Hue
2439 | Prussian Blue Hue
2440 | Sap Green Hue
2442 | Van Dyke Brown Hue
5002390 | Turquoise (Phthalo)

If the paint is on that list and it is not Humbrol 90, then it is worse match than DE00 5.0.

I tried to make some mixes. Not super good results neither, I have two from Tamiya:

Closer match but really not fun to mix due to large ratios:

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #B6C196
       XF-2 Flat White: 22
       XF-4 Yellow Green: 1
       XF-5 Flat Green: 2

   DE00: 0.78

And less close match but more reasonable from measurements point of view

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #BAC294
       XF-2 Flat White: 13
       XF-4 Yellow Green: 1
       XF-5 Flat Green: 1

   DE00: 1.37

Or if you want, here is a Golden Fluid Acrylics mix (this one is based on MASS parts, not on volume due to paint viscosity)

FS595 - 34524
   Target: #B7C295, Mixture: #BAC295
       Titanium White: 3
       Titan Buff: 9
       Sap Green Hue: 1

   DE00: 0.68

This is a fun color!

Hi Casey,

thank you so much for this, its hugely appreciated: the two Tamiya mixes are the most "accessible" from my perspective, so those are the ones I'll be going to for my projects.

Many thanks once again and kind regards,

Mark

Paul Lucas · March 15, 2023

20 hours ago, Casey said:

I can't find FS24524 in the FS database I have but there is FS34524... I was baffled by this reference before too - it seems the reference suggests it is a semi-gloss version of 34524.

And

18 hours ago, Yes_Man said:

From my understanding (could be wrong!) the first number in the FS code states its sheen: 1 is for gloss, 2 for semi-gloss and 3 for semi-matt. Generally these are interchangeable however I have seen some FS codes that are exclusively available in only one or two sheens and not others, which is why I think you couldn't find it in your deck at first. Pretty sure you worked this out anyway but it's worth remembering in case it comes up again. The colour should still be the same it's just the finish that's different.

This is correct. FS 595 does not contain a colour with the number FS 24524. I think that Ian Huntley was trying to convey the idea that the colour he was talking about was similar to FS 34524 in hue but had a semi-gloss finish, thus he gave the reference FS 24524. If this colour was actually produced to meet the requirements of DTD 63, that was supposed to give a full gloss finish, then the reference that would be given in this instance would presumably have been to FS 14524.

As it happens, DTD 63A was revised in March 1940 so as to be less glossy following it being adopted as a camouflage finish pending the introduction of what were designated 'Type 'S' paints. If the sample that Mr Huntley was referring to had been produced after March 1940, then it might well have been to the revised DTD 63A with reduced gloss formulation and thus have had the semi-gloss finish indicated by the FS 24524 reference that he gave.

Having found the error in the original CC article as described above, I am now going to look at the subject of Grey Green again with a view to producing a revised CC article that will correct the earlier mistake and perhaps expand the subject into the post war period as there appear to be a number of questions that need further exploration.

Thank you @2996 Victor for inadvertantly bringing the mistake to my attention and thank you @Casey for putting the time and effort into devising a solution to the problem of how to represent the light cockpit grey green colour using modelling paint.

Regards,

Paul.

Paul Lucas · March 27, 2023

Just when you thought that this thread was dead and buried, I have come across something that I either forgot or did not know that I had!

When Humbrol first marketed their range of authentic paints circa 1967, they did so in boxed sets that contained a small leaflet that explained what the colours were used for. Set No.1 was RAF (European) and the accompanying leaflet contained the following statement.

"The Royal Air Force camouflaged all their aircraft from 1939 to patterns set down by the Air Ministry. Cockpit interiors were Pale Green, similar in shade to HUMBROL Standard No.28 but semi gloss in finish."

At that time, Humbrol No. 28 was Matt Sky.

Why Humbrol needed to make reference to No. 28 Matt Sky I don't know, because Sky was included in the Authentic set as HB.5. I have a workable tin of Humbrol No. 28 Matt Sky, and it looks and smells the same as HB.5. As far as I can tell, they are the same paint.

At some point, Humbrol changed the colour of the paint sold as Matt No.28 from Sky to FS 36622, a shade of light grey. This is how it is still sold today so the reference to using Humbrol No. 28 for cockpit interiors is no longer valid.

dogsbody · March 27, 2023

All the old Authentic sets:

Chris

Ingo Ritz · March 31, 2023

Here is a quote from Kotare:

"Spitfire Mk.I colour schemes are surprisingly varied and complicated. Interior areas were primed with light grey before being painted aluminium, except for the cockpit between frames 8 & 11 which was painted in a colour described as “Supermarine green” and “apple green”. Note that this is different from the paler, greyer, “Grey Green” (of which various colour mixes have additionally been noted) used on later production Spitfires built by other manufacturers. Major internal components supplied by sub-contractors could be delivered in various shades of grey-green or aluminium or even black".

In the kit instructions for the Mark I, Kotare matches "Supermarine interior green-matt" to Humbrol 120 or a Tamiya mix of X71(2) plus X28(1).

Paul Lucas · March 31, 2023

I don't know about the Tamiya mix, but Humbrol 120 is quoted as being a match for FS 34227 by Humbrol themselves.

Humbrol 120 is a good match to Grey Green in the MAP colour standard booklets that were issued during the war.

Humbrol 120 is also a good match for the fascimelie rendering of Grey Green in British Aviation Colours of WW II.

Thus Humbrol 120 FS 34227 represents the standard shade of Grey Green and not the paler shades of green that have been the subject of this thread.

Also, whatever shade of green was used inside the cockpit should have a gloss finish.

Richard Humm · March 31, 2023

On 3/27/2023 at 10:15 AM, Paul Lucas said:

At some point, Humbrol changed the colour of the paint sold as Matt No.28 from Sky to FS 36622, a shade of light grey. This is how it is still sold today so the reference to using Humbrol No. 28 for cockpit interiors is no longer valid.

Humbrol 28 Sky was discontinued in the early 1970s, along with another 15 colours in the standard range. 28 Matt Camouflage Grey was introduced in 1988 as a replacement for Authentic HU10 Grey FS36622 after the Authentic range were completely discontinued.

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