perdu Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 coming along beautifully Kev, I love this new kinda modelling Never tackled anything resin cast except the few bits I knocked up to make the Sherpas engines and sponsons from plastic padding b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Its been a while since I put any updates regarding this build, but I have been busy and completed a fair amount, I had decided in the end not to have the cargo doors open and only have one passenger door open, basically just to cut the build time and I'm lazy, you may also notice that the oval windows I cut out have been removed, as I found when pouring the clear resin created air bubbles, and became quite frustrating, so in the end I cut these out completely and using a silicone strip taped this on the out side with double tape, and poured the clear resin in, it still needs polishing but I need to make sure there are no visible joins where the clear resin meets the plastic. I have already had the window shapes cut out on a sheet of Tamiya A5 masking sheet, these will be positioned correctly before the primer is applied This shows the front undercarriage, which has now been glued into place I have also completed the wing and attached the engines, and scribed the panel lines which is the most boring thing ever in modelling I have also completed the vertical and horizontal tail section, I also found that the primer I used, when I started scribing began to peel off, so all the parts previously primed had to be stripped with fairy power spray I also was not happy how the original cockpit layout came out, and it did not fit very well either, so decided to do the whole compartment again, apart from the seats and front instrument panel and center consol, this photo shows how it looks prior to me fitting the cockpit roof, in the end you can't see much of it anyway This photo shows front nose of the Vanguard with the AC scopes at the front This shows where I cut out the window sections which is now filled with clear resin This shows the size of the Vanguard, which is similar in size to a VC10, the body and wing is not attached as yet, still need to re-scribe some panel lines and tidy up the main fuselage before I mate the two together , still along way to go, hopefully fingers crossed may be finished by the end of the year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Great to see progress on this one Kev - & some really good work going on again! I like your idea for the windows, they'll look superb when done! keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wow that is a stunning piece of modelling, I've only just picked up on this thread but will be back for the next update!!! Eng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbag Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Very impressed by this Kev. You have certainly been busy Chris. PS. I always thought the Vanguard had oval windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Glad you brought us (ME) up to date with the Vanguard Kev, one of those iconic and really beautiful shapes The windows in resin idea is brilliant, though like Chris I hadn't realised they had full width picture windows but Vickers always were innovative And now for something completely different The nose wheel bay utterly staggering detailing for a model of this kind, I'm stunned by the detail in it keep up keeping us up b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Looks great mate, great to see an update. Glad you've mentioned re-scribing too, what was the tape you use again, I can't find the post you mentioned it in, 3M something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Great to see progress on this one Kev - & some really good work going on again! I like your idea for the windows, they'll look superb when done! keith Thanks Keith, the clear resin for me is a learning curve Wow that is a stunning piece of modelling, I've only just picked up on this thread but will be back for the next update!!! Eng Thanks, hope you like it Very impressed by this Kev. You have certainly been busy Chris. PS. I always thought the Vanguard had oval windows. yes these are the new and improved windows and allowed the passengers a great view Glad you brought us (ME) up to date with the Vanguard Kev, one of those iconic and really beautiful shapes The windows in resin idea is brilliant, though like Chris I hadn't realised they had full width picture windows but Vickers always were innovative And now for something completely different The nose wheel bay utterly staggering detailing for a model of this kind, I'm stunned by the detail in it keep up keeping us up b Thanks Looks great mate, great to see an update. Glad you've mentioned re-scribing too, what was the tape you use again, I can't find the post you mentioned it in, 3M something? Thanks Radleigh, the tape I use is 3M 471 blue tape, I find this better for curves than Dymo tape, I just lightly score with a compass needle in a small chuck a few times, its always best not to put much pressure when scribing, its finished of with my other scribing tool, these are the main tools I use for scribing, on flat surfaces I use one of those flexible rulers held in place with tamiya tape, I know every one has there own technique but I find this best for me, also its best to mark out in pencil all the scribe lines before you commit to scribing them at least that way you can see if any lines are wrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi - wow - what a great model. I love the Vanguard and look forward to seeing this completed. My dad flew these as a first officer for BEA before getting command on Viscounts in the pre BOAC merger days of real old school aviation and flying. That extra detail is splendid - 11/10 to you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Oh wow this is a fantastic build I am so happy I found this. Just been reading through it. Love the resin casting on the engines. Such a beautiful plane. I was watching the Farnbourgh airshow dvd Golden Years (again ! always got it on love post war myself) and the chap commentating say's "as good as the Viscount but bigger" Cheers Rob watching this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 The Vanguard had mixed reviews, as passengers and crew complained that it was to noisy,compared to the Viscount as the aircraft was very over powered with its 4 Rolls Royce Tyne engines Just look and hear, put the speaker on Max http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuzLS35IzVc Brooklands I don't think run the Vanguard engine anymore as spare parts are an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The Vanguard had mixed reviews, as passengers and crew complained that it was to noisy,compared to the Viscount as the aircraft was very over powered with its 4 Rolls Royce Tyne engines Just look and hear, put the speaker on Max http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuzLS35IzVc Brooklands I don't think run the Vanguard engine anymore as spare parts are an issue Sorry can you say that again. I didn't hear what you said... SOUNDS AWSOME !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMover Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I loved seeing Vanguards - always thought they looked 'right'. This is a great build. I'd like to build one but don't have the space to display it l did. One day...... Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 It's great to see an update on this project - I was worried it had landed on the shelf of doom! Excellent work - the window method is an inspiration! Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Cornes Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 This really is an interesting build, which I had not seen before so I've just read the whole thing. I was very interested to see what you had done with the propellor blades as I would have thought they would be too thin to cast? I have done quite a bit of casting using Sylmasta's stuff and either 1 or 2 part moulds so I would be interested to know how you did the blades. In addition I would be interested to know what clear cast resin you used for the windows? I have an idea that you can get something suitable from Hobbycraft but it would be very interesting to know what you used as I have a VC-10 to do one of these days Many thanks Simon (I'm bookmarking this thread!!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Hi - wow - what a great model. I love the Vanguard and look forward to seeing this completed. My dad flew these as a first officer for BEA before getting command on Viscounts in the pre BOAC merger days of real old school aviation and flying. That extra detail is splendid - 11/10 to you Lovely aircraft, I think its a shame they came about when the jet airliners took over Oh wow this is a fantastic build I am so happy I found this. Just been reading through it. Love the resin casting on the engines. Such a beautiful plane. I was watching the Farnbourgh airshow dvd Golden Years (again ! always got it on love post war myself) and the chap commentating say's "as good as the Viscount but bigger" Cheers Rob watching this Glad you like it Rob Sorry can you say that again. I didn't hear what you said... SOUNDS AWSOME !!! They are loud, which I could of seen them running I loved seeing Vanguards - always thought they looked 'right'. This is a great build. I'd like to build one but don't have the space to display it l did. One day...... Chris Thanks Chris It's great to see an update on this project - I was worried it had landed on the shelf of doom! Excellent work - the window method is an inspiration! Tom Hi Tom, Glad to see you and your dad at Milton Keynes, I thought it was about time I did an update on my build This really is an interesting build, which I had not seen before so I've just read the whole thing. I was very interested to see what you had done with the propellor blades as I would have thought they would be too thin to cast? I have done quite a bit of casting using Sylmasta's stuff and either 1 or 2 part moulds so I would be interested to know how you did the blades. In addition I would be interested to know what clear cast resin you used for the windows? I have an idea that you can get something suitable from Hobbycraft but it would be very interesting to know what you used as I have a VC-10 to do one of these days Many thanks Simon (I'm bookmarking this thread!!) The props were a pain, as I took the Super Transell props and shaped these to size as they are smaller in length on the Vanguard, I took quite a few casts before I was happy, as you can see from the photos there were a number of pin holes which I had to fill with plastic rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Just caught up with this build, it is quite simply amazing! Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I had these windows cut from Tamiya masking sheet, at the time I did not have any way of cutting these out so using Adobe Illustrator created a simple oval shape to represent the window and copied this a number of times, then took the artwork to a local sign making shop where they cut the shapes out using their cutter plotter, since then I have acquired myself a Silhouette Cameo cutter plotter for future use. these were then applied to the surface of the model in the correct position, I used a simple template for the window spacing and height which was simply cutting Tamiya tape for the spacing, and repositioning this before the next window was stuck on, the process was repeated until all the windows were done. I have also completed the cabin windows, which was simply attaching Tamiya tape to the individual window openings, using a pencil or pen mark around the window frame, remove the tape and apply on some clear plastic and cut around the marked area, check and trim for fit, remove the tape and attach using crystal clear, finishing off with Johnson Klear applied around the edge to hold it in place, I then cut Tamiya tape again in small stripes, applied around the windows and filled in with Windsor and Newton masking fluid. The photo also shows the re-enforcing strip half way up the fuselage, not sure if this was on all the Vanguards, as I had been told that they applied these to the Merchantman, but I have photos of BEA Vanguards that you can clearly see these. Still need to add a few more details such as the gutters above the doors, then I can prime the fuselage, rub this down and check for anything that needs doing, then attach the body to the wings Thanks for looking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Really neat work on those windows Kev, they will look great when done! Enjoying this build & looking forward to more progress! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyinoz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 just discovered thi! wow I do like it a lot! must research this window cutting business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I have acquired myself a Silhouette Cameo cutter plotter for future use. Bought one of these too - an excellent piece of kit, I am currently using mine to do basic etch brass. Great work on the Vanguard, I have considered using the same method for the VC-10 windows. The first flight I have memory of was in a Vanguard, 4 1/2 hours to Malta and back. As I remember, it was noisy and I couldn't make my ears pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennygman Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 As a dedicated 'kit assembler', there seems to be some serious voodoo and black magic going on here - amazing work! Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Just caught up with this build, it is quite simply amazing! Martin Thanks Martin Staggering work and a thoroughly entertaining read. Anthony. Cheers Anthony Really neat work on those windows Kev, they will look great when done! Enjoying this build & looking forward to more progress! Keith Thanks Keith, need to get this finished sooner rather than later just discovered thi! wow I do like it a lot! must research this window cutting business The Silhouette Cameo is ideal for these types of windows, although I have not tried it out yet Bought one of these too - an excellent piece of kit, I am currently using mine to do basic etch brass. Great work on the Vanguard, I have considered using the same method for the VC-10 windows. The first flight I have memory of was in a Vanguard, 4 1/2 hours to Malta and back. As I remember, it was noisy and I couldn't make my ears pop. Yeap they sure are noisy, I am to young to remember these aircraft, but would of loved to see them start the one up at Brooklands As a dedicated 'kit assembler', there seems to be some serious voodoo and black magic going on here - amazing work! Steve. Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Sheer bloody amazing modelling Kev There's a can of chilled Stella raised here to this piece of magic nice one mate, awfully nice I do love the Vickers Airliners, you make this look so easy "Oh dear that went wrong let's try this oh yes that's fine, what now?" Simply awesome working out how to get the result Edited June 25, 2014 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 this is a fantastically interesting build - I saw the first part on the forum about a year ago and had forgotten about this build so it is nice to see it back in the spot light again. My Dad flew BEA Vanguards for a few years when he had just left Hamble where he trained back in the early 60's, before taking his command on Viscounts. He has a nice framed painting of a Vanguard flying out from Malta by Anthony Rowland as a memory to these beautiful old ladies which sounded just as beautiful (for those that can remember them) Keep up the great work - let me know if you ever consider selling the finished build as my Dad would treasure something like this. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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