GordonD Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think you might consider putting some form of separator or partition in part-way long the side seats. With 7 people sitting side by side, acceleration and deceleration could have got quite uncomfortable for those sitting at either end! One of my favourite seats on my bus to school was the bench seat on the left, right next to the window facing backward into the boarding platform. With 4 people sitting on the bench seat, you would often get a bit squashed as the bus accelerated as the people beside you got rocked side to side! Was that so you could watch the ladies going upstairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richellis Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Thanks, reason I asked was I bet it would be a pig to drive with 8 non-steering wheels on the back! Cool conversion though... No worse than a 3 axle riged truck TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Was that so you could watch the ladies going upstairs? Who me? innocent as the day was long me... ahem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 No worse than a 3 axle riged truck TBH That's what I thought too. The Peterbilt I am going to build has the same layout, and will be carrying far more weight than my trolleybus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Time off work is giving me plenty of time to work on my trolleybus. I scratch built the roof details. Not finished yet. Plenty more to trim, cut, add etc etc... more update images to follow later in the week. Some of you will notice some parts iv'e used. It's all artistic licence. I have no idea what should really go up on top of the roof, but I think it looks convincing enough. The poles are hinged so as to move up and down and sideways to follow the curves in the road. Cables, insulators and springs will be added too.. David. Edited July 17, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I love that, proper smart!! Are you going to put it onto a base with cable above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I love that, proper smart!! Are you going to put it onto a base with cable above? Hello there Not really thought that far ahead yet. I have designed the poles so that they are hinged, to go up and down and sideways too. Keep watching this thread.... Thanks David. Edited July 17, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgregor Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I love the use of the front steering components etc for your leccy pick up section, very clever. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 I love the use of the front steering components etc for your leccy pick up section, very clever.Mac Cheers! well i thought it looked rather good. I did add parts then took them away. Just needs to look convincing. I will be adding some cables, springs and insulators too. I still have loads to do on the roof section, so keep watching. Thanks for your continued interest.... David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi David That looks so convincing at that length !!!!!!!!!!!!! Any thoughts as to what you will do with the big radiator and the dead space where the engine won't be ?????????? Seems a shame not to take full advantage of the extra space for fair paying passengers, pram space or luggage space !!!!!!!!!!!! Looking at most of the trolley buses, it looks as though they have a simple air intake, possibly for interior heating on the front. This going to look so nice with adverts and a colour scheme !!!!!!!!! Will you be going with London bus red again to really show off the contrast with the sizes of your fleet ???????????? WELL IMPRESSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will there be another bus arriving soon after ??????????????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi DavidThat looks so convincing at that length !!!!!!!!!!!!! Any thoughts as to what you will do with the big radiator and the dead space where the engine won't be ?????????? Seems a shame not to take full advantage of the extra space for fair paying passengers, pram space or luggage space !!!!!!!!!!!! Looking at most of the trolley buses, it looks as though they have a simple air intake, possibly for interior heating on the front. This going to look so nice with adverts and a colour scheme !!!!!!!!! Will you be going with London bus red again to really show off the contrast with the sizes of your fleet ???????????? WELL IMPRESSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will there be another bus arriving soon after ??????????????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha Nige Hello there Thank you very much for your kind words. Also thanks for your ideas on the engine bay area and front grill. This trolley bus will be London Transport red, with cream banding running just under lower deck windows and upper deck. A black outline to the cream band also. I was thinking of slat venting the front grill. Again this will be trial and error I think. I have plenty spare parts to practice with. I really wish that Tamiya or Revell/Monagram would bring out a 1/24th scale Q1 Trolleybus. I just love the shape of it. My idea for the Routemaster trolleybus is based on the Q1 The Q1 i'm basing my trolleybus on... although loosly I might add RM1 - my big! big! project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Can I ask a totally numpty question ??????? How do the contact poles stay in contact with the cantenery wires?????? I understand the poles pivot and are sprung to raise them and I know that trolley busses have been known to come off contact when having to avoid something, but how do the contacts generally stay on the wires. Are there guides either side of the contact that the wires track through ?????????? Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richellis Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 There is a little wheel, with flanges on the end to stop it slipping off sideways, then the sprung poles (pushing the poles up, not down) to keep them in contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Can I ask a totally numpty question ???????How do the contact poles stay in contact with the cantenery wires?????? I understand the poles pivot and are sprung to raise them and I know that trolley busses have been known to come off contact when having to avoid something, but how do the contacts generally stay on the wires. Are there guides either side of the contact that the wires track through ?????????? Nige Hello there. Looks like somebody else has already answered your question. (richellis) David. Edited July 18, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Back again! Well I have worked on the poles, pole retainers and the big job of squaring off the front of bus. I am toying with the idea of a double bench seat to sit over the wheel arch. This giving a view of the driver and distraction, so i'm not sure. maybe just an extra space for luggage/access inside. Again i'm not sure. Anyway., here are the latest images. (Please note that the front end is not finished off, as you can see. Roof not complete either). This looks crude, but will look great when all cut back and smoothed off. Plenty to do! Edited July 19, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Séan Pádraig Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 That is simply amazing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) More progress & comparison ... Still a lot of sanding, scraping, smoothing off, shaping to do, but starting to look ok. Hard work getting the curve of the corner to blend in, and match the driver's side cab. Edited July 19, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foghorn Leghorn Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Gobsmacked is what I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Gobsmacked is what I am! Yep it is jaw droppingly good ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ain't it ?????????????????? Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkkeeper Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 loving the full front, but reckon the central vertical needs to be thinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) loving the full front, but reckon the central vertical needs to be thinner. I was thinking that my self, but It meant another major cut and finding larger glass for the frames. But It's now worth the change I think. Aesthetically it has to look right. Watch this space I guess. Thanks David. Quick photoshop image after realizing that the window central space was too wide.. All my followers - please tell me which window format looks best. Is this one below the better option??????? The image isn't bang on centrally, but you get the idea. Just incase you were wondering, the riveting bands have not been added yet to the front right side Edited July 19, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model69 Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Facelift has gone ahead. This is the final look regarding the front of the bus. Was a bar stool of a job to get right. Trimming off to do yet. Looks much better I thinks. Thanks for your honesty on the build and overall look.. David. Edited July 20, 2012 by Model69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Really like this David, doing a top job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yep David Brutal chopping and more headaches for you in getting the glass to look right. Certainly nothing that is going to hold you back from making a fantastic finish. It had to be done, and you did the perfect solution as ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The proportions look splendid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not so many blind spots for the driver now !!!!!!!!!!! You are doing a master class in the cut and shut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 David Wonder if this might be of some use to you. I was scouting about looking for the detail of how the trolley bus gets its power and stumbled across this web site: - Trolley Bus Sections and Plans Maybe of much usefullness in the thought processes for the frontage of the bus as it has cab details, cut out schematic for the motors and all sorts of stuff on a typical trolley bus !!!! You may just want to give the driver more space in the front with clear view to his mirrors !!!!!!!!! Saw it and instantly thought of yours !!!!!!!!!! Hope it is of some use Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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