AnonymousDFB1 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 When: 14th September 2013 to 15th December 2013 Hosts: Enzo Matrix & Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Had a rummage in the stash last night. FROG Miles Magister x2 or Airfix Spitfire V & IX were the first to be unearthed. Plenty time to decide yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Welcome to the Obsolete Kit Groupbuild, courtesy of Britmodeller. Thanks to Mish for finding us a slot and to Col for agreeing to co-host. Take a good look at your Stash. Somewhere in the dark and nasty regions at the back of the cupboard, where nobody goes, sits a mouldering box. Deep within this dank and uninviting place, lurk old kits, their box art faded and uninspiring, their prices scrawled on in shillings and pence. But that's nothing compared to the horrors that lurk within the kit boxes themselves: kits with no wheel bays... kits with marking locations moulded in... kits with the pilot's head moulded onto a shelf... For there is always something horrifying down there... in the dark... waiting to come out... Of course, no sane person would ever dream of building these because... well, there's a lovely shiny Edrevfujitamigawa kit of the same subject. Or because it's going to take a bit of work to bring it up to standard. Or because... well, just look at it... Well, every dog has its day. And this groupbuild will give those dogs of kits their own day in the sun. There is only one hard and fast rule: Lancfan's Law. The kit must have been issued at least thirty years before the start of the GB. This applies to the original boxing. Subsequent reissues are eligible. So any kit which was issued before or during 1983 is in. There is also a guideline: Murdo's Law. "I opened the box for a quick look, shuddered, cried, then very quickly closed it again. What in the world was I thinking of?" You know a rubbish kit just by looking at it. If it's a rubbish kit, then it's in. If you look at it and think "ooh! That's nice, I'd really like to build that sometime" then it's not a rubbish kit. And let's not consider kits against the standard of their times. Yes, it may have been state of the art in 1783 when it was first issued, but that doesn't mean it is any less pants in this day and age. I also foresee three different ways in which a model can be built for this GB. Built to the highest standards possible with rescribing, resin, PE and scratchbuilt parts. This could be an attempt to build a model from the old kit to be indistinguishable from one built from the latest Edrevfujitamigawa kit. For instance, make the Frog Gannet look like the Revell one. Built OOB using all the techniques you know. Filling, spraying, weathering, maybe a bit of rescribing. Build an old kit in the same manner and to the same standards as you would a modern one. A nostalgia build. An old kit built in exactly the same style as when you first built it forty-odd years ago. No filler or sanding of joint lines. Enamel paint daubed on using a hairy stick. An attempt to recapture the joys of your youth! Of course, it's your model, so you build it in the manner that you see fit. There will be no seperate categories for the different build styles. All the other usual GB rules - the ones about no more than 25% complete on the start date and the most important GB rule of all (having fun) - will apply. And if thou dost pepper thine build thread with comments which could by merry hap be attributed to a goodly knight in days of yore then foresooth, have at it! Lay on, Britmodeller. And damned be he who first cries "Hold! Enough!" Cry "havoc!" and let slip the dogs of modelling. Ooh! Airfix Havoc anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thanks Mish, Made a note pinned it to my noticeboard, maybe two subjects, Airfix P1127 or Auster Antarctic. Colin on the Africa Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I will be in - just need to find a kit - but as I have doubled the stash already this year I need to build some first (as well as still need to paint the spare room - which I should;ve done before doubling the stash.... naughty Robert) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Candidates: 1 Richard B. 2 per ardua ad ostentationem 3 lancfan 4 Max Headroom 5 Ghostbase 6 Murdo 7 Col. 8 CliffB 9 heloman1 10 Enzo Matrix 11 robw_uk 12 Giorgio N 13 Kallisti 14 Mikkel 15 wyverns4 16 dazdot 17 Richard B 18 Radleigh 19 martin hale 20 chrisrope 21 Arniec 22 CPNGROATS 23 kev67 24 Doug Rogers 25 GordonD 26 Navy Bird 27 Madam I'm Adam 28 Ancient Mariner 29 spitfire23bc 30 Paul J 31 TonyGol 32 sunshine coast 33 wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Candidates:... 25 GordonD ... Note that I have been shanghaied into this against my will, but that's Enzo for you. I've known him for years and though he's a really nice guy he can be very persuasive at times. As I'm particularly fond of both my kneecaps I've decided to go along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Note that I have been shanghaied into this against my will, but that's Enzo for you. I've known him for years and though he's a really nice guy he can be very persuasive at times. As I'm particularly fond of both my kneecaps I've decided to go along... anyroads... you know you're gonna love it! Did you get that Heinkel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 anyroads... you know you're gonna love it! Did you get that Heinkel? Not yet. Going to look for it on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Ehhmmmm would a P-61 from be possible for this build?! I don't know it's original date of birth. I have found the date myself. It's from 1974 so that should be no problem and there is now the Great wall kit so it tiks almost all the boxes with the exeption that it can come out of the box and want's to stay out. I am planning to build it with a lot of goedies and rescribe the whole plane. Edited July 12, 2012 by Arniec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Ehhmmmm would a P-61 from be possible for this build?! I don't know it's original date of birth.I have found the date myself. It's from 1974 so that should be no problem and there is now the Great wall kit so it tiks almost all the boxes with the exeption that it can come out of the box and want's to stay out. I am planning to build it with a lot of goedies and rescribe the whole plane. Is that the 1/48 Monogram kit? I know the kit has its problems - notably with the transparencies simply not fitting at all - but I wouldn't say it was a rubbish kit. All of the Monogram kits from around that period still stand up and pretty nice kits. On the other hand, if you were to build the 1/72 Airfix kit... Edited July 13, 2012 by Enzo Matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Is that the 1/48 Monogram kit?I know the kit has its problems - notably with the transparencies simply not fitting at all - but I wouldn't say it was a rubbish kit. All of the Monogram kits from around that period still stand up and pretty nice kits. On the other hand, if you were to build the 1/72 Airfix kit... I don't own that many kits that are rubbinsh, But maybee I still have some 1/72 Matchbox kits lying around. I also have a 1/48 Harrier Gr.3 from Airfix, but I believe that that was a kit that hasen't been improved by anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Some where I have a Republic P43 Lancer 1/48 dont no who did it and dont know how old it is . But if it fits in to this G/B that what I will be building wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Some where I have a Republic P43 Lancer 1/48 dont no who did it and dont know how old it is .But if it fits in to this G/B that what I will be building wellzy For some reason I keep thinking Willams Bros. but have no evidence or reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPNGROATS Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Some where I have a Republic P43 Lancer 1/48 dont no who did it and dont know how old it is .But if it fits in to this G/B that what I will be building wellzy The 1/48 P-43 that I have is a Classic AirFrames kit # 413. It has options for a USAAF a/c and a Chinese a/c. A small p/e instrument panel with film instrument faces. Includes two vacform canopies...Can't say when this kit was orig. issued... Regards, ggc P.S. I think Williams Brothers issued a 1/32 P-35 some time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancfan Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 - On the other hand, if you were to build the 1/72 Airfix kit... Don't forget that Frog also kitted the P-61. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Came across a PM 72nd scale Su-15 'Flagon' is the stash this evening. After a brief investigation the misshapen lumps of plastic were put back in the box. The only part of this kit looking anything like a Su-15 is the title on the box so while it would be a great candidate for this GB it'll take some time and several beers before I find the courage to tackle that daft idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jephcott Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I finally found the two candidates: A 1/72 Frog Skua A 1/72 Frog Sea Fury Oh how I wept into the deep areas of my stash cupboard when I saw these. So... can I play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Know the Sea Fury was/is pretty basic but don't think I've ever seen the Skua kit. Seems perfect for the task though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire23bc Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Off the top of my head, the models in my stash that fit the bill are: 1/72 Chematic (ex-Frog) S6B 1/72 Airfix B-29 1/72 Airfix Halifax 1/72 Airfix Gladiator I've made a tiny start of the B-29, and I think I'll be saving that for a lengthier AMS build. The others though... I have a feeling it'll be the Gladiator. Oh what am I doing!? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I have a feeling it'll be the Gladiator. Oh what am I doing!? Lots of rigging on a tiny aeroplane I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 MMM... Just the thing for my FROG Sea Venom! And it starts just after the end of AMEGB; perfect! May I join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 to 34 Chris Jephcott 35 Moggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 The 1/48 P-43 that I have is a Classic AirFrames kit # 413. It has options for a USAAF a/c and a Chinese a/c. A small p/e instrument panel with film instrument faces. Includes two vacform canopies...Can't say when this kit was orig. issued...Regards, ggc P.S. I think Williams Brothers issued a 1/32 P-35 some time ago... Think your right with the Classic A irFrames have to find out how old it is wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Think your right with the Classic A irFrames have to find out how old it is wellzy Hi Less, I think that it's to young for this build. Take a look here (if that is the right one) http://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/pr.../413preview.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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