Graham T Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 What paint do others use for this purpose? I've ben using Humbrol 11 which goes on quite well & dries quickly but I've had adhesion problems with it & it can be a bit grainy. I apply a gloss varnish to it to deal with both issues but is there a better option out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) I use Lifecolor LC74 for High Speed Silver. Admittedly that's a post-war colour, but I intend to use it for silver dope when I build that Airfix Swordfish I keep promising myself. I had adhesion problems with all sorts of paints. They all stopped once I started using Alclad2 grey primer. Edited June 20, 2012 by Enzo Matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hi When I made my AZ Gauntlet I used RLM01 from Xtracolor ref : X216. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus468 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Gents, Further to this question, as a very new airbrush user (I cant believe how much paint I can get everywere but the model) do any of you have any recommendations for which silver will spray well and look good, I mainly make interwar bi planes, however if I can master the beast Luftwaffe aircraft are looking interesting. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Gents, Further to this question, as a very new airbrush user (I cant believe how much paint I can get everywere but the model) do any of you have any recommendations for which silver will spray well and look good, I mainly make interwar bi planes, however if I can master the beast Luftwaffe aircraft are looking interesting. Cheers Well as I said above, Humbrol 11 sprays rather well but doesn't seem to adhere very well through an airbrush, causing it to lift when you remove any masking. I'm going to try Xtracolour X216 as someone here suggests on the next project, however I find metallics from this brand of paint rather grainy so a coat of gloss varnish will no doubt be necessary before decalling. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Citadels Mithril Silver sprays very nicely thinned with Tamiya thinners (white cap) and soesn't have that grainy finish that other silvers have, Tamiyas XF-16 to name one. Alclad also have an excellent finish and the Vallejo model air metallics brush and spray beautifully too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have heard that there have been problems with batches of Humbrol 11 recently. I've been brush painting it though and it works OK for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Well as I said above, Humbrol 11 sprays rather well but doesn't seem to adhere very well through an airbrush, causing it to lift when you remove any masking. I'm going to try Xtracolour X216 as someone here suggests on the next project, however I find metallics from this brand of paint rather grainy so a coat of gloss varnish will no doubt be necessary before decalling. HTH Hello I didn't have any trouble with the decals on this little kit : Patrick Edited June 22, 2012 by VG 33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Citadil Mythril Silver for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viscount806x Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 What paint do others use for this purpose? I've ben using Humbrol 11 which goes on quite well & dries quickly but I've had adhesion problems with it & it can be a bit grainy. I apply a gloss varnish to it to deal with both issues but is there a better option out there? Alclad White Aluminium sprays nicely and doesn't need trhe black undercoat. Could also be another job for Halfords Nissan Silver with a top coat of artists acrylic matt varnish. Looks great on my silver Meteors. I expect the pundits will now hit the keyboards and berate me for not telling you to get the correct pre war dope! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I use Alclad Duraluminum for fabric surfaces and Alclad Aluminum with a light overspray of Alclad Polished Aluminum for metal surfaces. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I use a mix of Humbrol 11 Silver and Matt White 34, at I would guess roughly a 50/50 mix, maybe a touch more Silver. Haven't tried the Mithril Silver, seems popular though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hi, found that Mithral Silver gives a nice High Speed Silver effect, for silver doped fabric also find that silver and white mix gives a nice metallic greyish finish, don't think it matters too much which silver is used, I have a jar of Humbrol polished aluminium metalcote mixed with white which I have used for ages. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I use a mix of Humbrol 11 Silver and Matt White 34, at I would guess roughly a 50/50 mix, maybe a touch more Silver. Haven't tried the Mithril Silver, seems popular though. Thanks for that Doug ....adding the white gives that nice contrast between the doped fabric and the metal surfaces... Regards Trevor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Citadel Mithril or for a bit of dulling down or pre shading then Chainmail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I used Mithril silver mixed with some skull white on my Demon build, then over varnished with Quick Shine ( ie Klear acrylic type stuff) that had some SNJ aluminimum polishing powder mixed in. Worked really well I thought. The Mithril Silver/ skull white mix also looks a lot like Post WW2 USN Corro-guard for leading edges too - just in case Im not the only interwar aircraft fan with a penchant for early USN jets too!! Cheers jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 A little late, but I recommend one combination not to use. For my pre-war Airfix Swordfish, I decided to use a mix of Tamiya Chrome Silver and Tamiya Flat White (approx 50/50) It looked great till I tried masking, even with Tamiya tape, I had lift-off that clearly showed stripes where the tape had been applied. Now I amy puzzling how to remove all this 'bad' paint so I can try something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bittner Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I like using Hawkeye Models Talon Aluminum. One great thing about it is it's pre-thinned, so can be sprayed direct from the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Now I amy puzzling how to remove all this 'bad' paint so I can try something else. More tape perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 More tape perhaps? LOL, slow but maybe ... Based on the aftermath of removing the masking, my theory is the flat white didn't mix nicely with the chrome silver and some of the white pigment lifted of with the tape since I ended up with more silvery stripes where the tape had been used. Since I use acrylics, I will try the Talon aluminium once I buckle down and clean off the previous attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 One of my basic rules, learned after more than 50 years of modelling experience: Never ever use masking tape over metal paints! It is asking for trouble. Another of my rules: Don't use enamel varnish over Humbrol 11. It makes it look even more grainy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brewer Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Talon was great-unfortunately Hawkeye pulled the plug a couple of days ago.I wish I'd known this was coming,I'd have bought a carton of it.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Cheers, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob C. Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 [ Graham, I am working on these using Floquil Old Silver as silver dope and Model Master Silver Chrome Trim as polished metal. Unfortunately, after I masked over the silver chrome trim, it was necessary to use some SNJ aluminum polishing powder to restore some of the finish. Also, in order to avoid rubbing off the Old Silver in handling (which I did, and had to respray), I sprayed Model Master Metalizer Sealer over, masking off the polished panels. We're all curious, I'm sure, to see what you chose. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I've always liked Floquil Old Silver for pre-war dope. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I'm going to give Floquil Old Silver a go & have ordered some from Metalsmith, along with the dedicated thinners/cleaner. Does it spray well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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