Alan P Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Thanks to AlphaDelta and Anthony for accepting a late entry I'm just going to build the Revell 1/32 kit (last year's birthday present from my dad, can it really be a year already!!) straight from the box with apart from a few repairs to the poor moulding of this example. Half the fin missing! and half the smoke pod aborted: I've also found one of the fin halves on the same sprue is rounded off at the top end. Some Milliput required! With the help of Iain (32SIG) I can get the smoke pod parts quickly - I've also contacted Revell for the other bits, but with a 4-6 week delivery time, i might just crack on and repair it as I go. Well, I've got the whole week off, it's raining and the kids are at school. Should be able to do some quality modelling!! Cheers, Al
Iain Ogilvie Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Hi Alan, Am afraid I've left the pod at home this am - so won't catch the post today - sorry! But - I think I have a spare Hawk in the loft I'm not starting for a while (already have two others on the go atm) - happy to send the fuselage parts over with the pod if you can send over your replacements from Revell when they arrive? Any use? Iain
Z Aviator Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 That looks like a kit that should be sent back to the manufacturer as a warranty reclaim..
Alan P Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Hi Alan,Am afraid I've left the pod at home this am - so won't catch the post today - sorry! But - I think I have a spare Hawk in the loft I'm not starting for a while (already have two others on the go atm) - happy to send the fuselage parts over with the pod if you can send over your replacements from Revell when they arrive? Any use? Iain You legend!! I would very happily do that if you could facilitate it Iain. Bless you, mate - same address as before? Cheers, Al Edited June 12, 2012 by PHaTNesS
Iain Ogilvie Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 No probs - happy to help! Will add to parcel this evening - may not get posted 'till Thurs when I'm next in the office (they closed our village Post Office ) Should be able to throw in an extra set of 'Arrows decals so you can double up with yours if needed (heard the white could do with being a little more 'solid'?). Iain
Alan P Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 No probs - happy to help! Will add to parcel this evening - may not get posted 'till Thurs when I'm next in the office (they closed our village Post Office ) Should be able to throw in an extra set of 'Arrows decals so you can double up with yours if needed (heard the white could do with being a little more 'solid'?). Iain Wow, dunno what to say, thanks very very much Iain. Al
Alan P Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 Found another moulding fault! Luckily this one is practically invisible, hidden round the corner of the intakes: Story so far: Cockpit components are primed and pre-shaded: Apart from the awful red plastic, the details are pretty good. Should pass muster out of the box even for 1/32. The plan is to keep the canopy closed and install a pilot figure in the front seat. That should mean the kit cockpit is adequate for the purpose. I'll work on the other interior details tomorrow (jetpipe, gear and wheelwells). Cheers, Al
Alpha Delta 210 Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Blimey Al, you've got a duff copy there! Good progress though. I don't know why Revell moulded the kit in that awful colour, as I don't imagine may kids would have bought it and applied the decals without painting! Edited June 13, 2012 by Alpha Delta 210
Alan P Posted June 15, 2012 Author Posted June 15, 2012 Trying to get on with what I can, the week off hasn't been very productive thanks to the lousy kit. Intake with compressor face - I haven't done much to it as it will be practically invisible: Cockpit is just about finished: Seat needs belts adding - the kit decals just don't cut it in this scale: Front seat needs a pilot to sit in it first! The pilot figure was from PJ Productions in France - for a €10 figure it was excruciating to have to cut off both legs and saw through the waist to get him to sit back a bit. Looking ahead, there seem to be serious fit problems with the two fuselage halves - I can only guess that this kit's popularity is down to its cheap price. I can only guess that the cheap price reflects the really poor quality. I think the choice of poor plastic (brittle red plastic? What honestly were they thinking?) has led to the numerous moulding problems, warpage, poor detail and flash everywhere. I'll be glad to finish this one!! Al
Ian @ KitsforCash Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 am releasing seamless intakes fairly soon for this kit.....
therollercoaster Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 Looking ahead, there seem to be serious fit problems with the two fuselage halves - I can only guess that this kit's popularity is down to its cheap price. I can only guess that the cheap price reflects the really poor quality. I think the choice of poor plastic (brittle red plastic? What honestly were they thinking?) has led to the numerous moulding problems, warpage, poor detail and flash everywhere. I'll be glad to finish this one!! To be fair, what you've shown in your pictures isn't typical of the kits I've got, one or two suffer with a poorly moulded nosegear leg but thats easily overcome. I'm puzzled though, your kit is clearly below par, I'd have taken it back to the shop I bought it from and got it replaced, afterall they sold you the kit, not Revell, and if the kit is sub-standard the retailer is the one that should either replace it, or give you your money back. I believe the red plastic for the initial release was intended to allow kids to build and finish a 'Red Arrows' plane without needing paint, it might not appeal to you or I but as the kits marketed as a Red Arrows version I can imagine that plenty of dads at airshows are going to be buying them for thier children, if thats the market Revell have aimed at then red plastic makes sense.
Alan P Posted June 15, 2012 Author Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) To be fair, what you've shown in your pictures isn't typical of the kits I've got, one or two suffer with a poorly moulded nosegear leg but thats easily overcome.I'm puzzled though, your kit is clearly below par, I'd have taken it back to the shop I bought it from and got it replaced, afterall they sold you the kit, not Revell, and if the kit is sub-standard the retailer is the one that should either replace it, or give you your money back. I believe the red plastic for the initial release was intended to allow kids to build and finish a 'Red Arrows' plane without needing paint, it might not appeal to you or I but as the kits marketed as a Red Arrows version I can imagine that plenty of dads at airshows are going to be buying them for thier children,if thats the market Revell have aimed at then red plastic makes sense. Well, to be fair back, (and I mentioned it in my first post) it was a birthday present, therefore I don't know who the retailer is and I have no proof of purchase. Unfortunately mine's not very good. Al EDIT: sorry, my original reply was rude Edited June 23, 2012 by PHaTNesS
Alpha Delta 210 Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 Hi AL You have certainly got a poor example there - I built one last year, and apart from an unwelcome intervention by an 11 year old boy, resulting in broken landing gear, I found that it was quite a nice build. So much so, that I have acquired another two (plus aftermarket decals!) Keep up the good work on yours.
Alan P Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 New fuselage arrived today courtesy of Iain (32SIG), thanks very much! Let battle commence! Al
Alpha Delta 210 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Looking forward to seeing it come together, Al.
Alan P Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 Starting to develop a bit more respect for this kit now! Loads of sub assemblies in the fuselage: Once together, I'm quite impressed with the fit of the main parts - the fuse is a bit mismatched, but the wing to fuselage fit is excellent. Dry-fitted - you can see the wayward seams on the bottom of the fuselage, but the wing section fits like a glove. The replacement fin tip in white Milliput: Many quite significant sink marks in the plastic to fill - I wonder if it's just my bogey kit again? Now, on with another round of puttying and sanding Al
RNoAF Aerobatic Team Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Looks like you have done a terrific job, regardless of the flaws in the kit! Keep up the effort!!
Alpha Delta 210 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Coming along nicely, Al. Looks like you'll be creating quite a lot of dust from all that sanding! I think that your copy must be a bogey, as I seem to remember that the only problems I had were the usual self-induced ones. (Oh, and the awful red plastic)! Here's mine built from the box alongside an Airfix 1/72 relative. I used Halfords Fiat Red Orange to finish it.
Alan P Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 Now that ^^^ is what I am aiming for! Using Nissan red for mine - seems to work well on a white undercoat. I'm puzzling over the white arrow on the underside, i might paint that rather than use the decals. Anyway, that's all to come! Al
Antony Robertson Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 You must have a seriously flawed kit, i've built a few of these now and not had any problems at all with it. Looking forward to seeing it finished. Antony
Alpha Delta 210 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Now that ^^^ is what I am aiming for! Using Nissan red for mine - seems to work well on a white undercoat. I'm puzzling over the white arrow on the underside, i might paint that rather than use the decals. Anyway, that's all to come! Al Hi Al I was a little furtive and embarrassed holding one of my Red Arrows pictures against the many lids in the Halfords paint racks! I should have used white undercoat, but I think I used grey, but was quite happy with the eventual finish. I think that if you have the patience, masking might be the best option, as the white decals are quite translucent.
CliffB Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Looks like you're starting to get the upper hand now Al! Cliff
Phartycr0c Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Good grief, that is one hell of a friday afternoon, knock off early, moulding exersise! None of thefour Iv'e got are moulded anywhere near as badly as that!. Much respect for continuing polishing that particular T**d Looking forward to the finished article. I know you can do it! .
geedubelyer Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Wow Al, I can't believe the look of some of those parts. Revell QC must be slipping.... Nice work despite all of the molding deficiencies. Keep it up.
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