Neal Posted May 5, 2012 Author Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Nice work. Thanks Bit of dry fitting of the seats in the cockpit and also attached the navigator IP coming. Getting this sorted his has meant I've been able to add some wiring to the back of the cockpit and some coming out of the back of the navigators console and finish the cockpit. Other mundane stuff: gave the UC & UC bays a second coat of grey. Dry brushed the training rounds, to give them a greyer more worn look, and fixed the intakes together. Closed up the front fuselage, the only disaster has been some glue on my finger whilst I was doing it, hopefully this'll sand out. Thanks to Brian I've some spare parts so I'm trying something with a bit of risk with the lovely kit sidewinders. I'll let you know how that goes later.… Edited May 5, 2012 by Neal
Neal Posted May 6, 2012 Author Posted May 6, 2012 Closed up, a quick sand should clean up the join nicely. Can't see much of the tub detail, but we'll know its there.
Neal Posted May 7, 2012 Author Posted May 7, 2012 Coming along nicely. Thanks The instructions (as usual) only give Revell colours and for the grey give a mix of 90% Matt grey 79 with Matt blue 56 10%, I can mix this as I have the revell colours, has anyone any experience of mixing this or is there something off the shelf that is a better match?
nimrod54 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) That's looking good Neal. I think that the grey colour should be Dark Sea Grey - but try this link for wrap around camouflage colours. Linky Edited May 7, 2012 by nimrod54
Neal Posted May 7, 2012 Author Posted May 7, 2012 That's looking good Neal. I think that the grey colour should be Dark Sea Grey - but try this link for wrap around camouflage colours.Linky Thanks John, that's not a website I seen before (now bookmarked) Using it I've got BS 638 dark sea grey which I think is equivalent to 156 humbrol or tamiya Xf53 Although Dark sea grey is 164 humbrol or tamiya Xf24 so still a bit confused In the reference pics I have the grey definitely have a blue hue to it. Perhaps a bit more research required.
nimrod54 Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Just been trying to locate some references for this aircraft that I stumbled across a couple of weeks ago, I used them when I originally did this scheme using Fineline 1/144th decals in the 90's. But, as usual, I have put them somwhere safe for future use and now can't find them, Hey-Ho. I think that I used Humbrol 164 for the grey and Humbrol 163 for the Dark Green when I did it back then, I tend to use IPMS Stockholm's colour references as a starting point Link and then match to available paint choice. Hope that this helps.
jimbuna Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 That's looking good Neal. I think that the grey colour should be Dark Sea Grey - but try this link for wrap around camouflage colours.Linky An excellent site....cheers for the link.
Neal Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Just to add to the discussion I've found this thread http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80888 Giorgio is usually spot on with his info and he suggests XF-54, which looks like another option. Given the scale and the fact I've got the 2 revell colours required (this was the gift set) I may well just mix the colour as described and see how it turns out. The glue fingerprint isn't too bad so it should sand out, what I have noticed is there's a large (for the scale) sink mark just by the UC bay. Shame it wasn't the other side as the sensor pod would've covered it.
Neal Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) What I shouldve done is got on with building the model, but I wanted to try something so after an evenings work I have an incomplete model but a pretty complete 1:144 crew ladder. I found that the instructions for the Eduard 1:48 ladder once printed are almost exactly twice the size of 1:144 so it was pretty straight forward to make a kit of parts from plasticard and stretched sprue. Still needs some work to finish it off but I'm really pleased with it. Edited May 11, 2012 by Neal
nimrod54 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 That's great Neal... this is going to look fantastic. Perhaps some N gauge figures (I think the scale is about right) modified as crew. Keep going fella.
atdb27 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Coming along very nicely. Good eye sight needed I think! Adrian
Neal Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) That's great Neal... this is going to look fantastic. Perhaps some N gauge figures (I think the scale is about right) modified as crew. Keep going fella. John, I have thought about that, painting figures isn't my strong suit so we'll see. Logan, Adrian, thanks for the comments. Not much on the Tornado tonight, giving my eyes a rest and trying to finish off a 1:72 spitfire PR Mk1G. Although the Tornado targeting sensors arrived today from retrokits, they're a lovely little mouldings, but they are tiny not sure how'll manage to accurately mask the window. Has anyone used the kit anniversary decals? Just wondering how they went down, if they're awful I might paint the yellow and green triangles. Edited May 12, 2012 by Neal
Neal Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 Some progress but nothing worth a picture. Painted and marked the inner wing sweep areas so I've glued the wings in the forward position which has also meant I've fixed the excess anhedral problem. Tidied up the nose joint that had a very slight misalignment at the radome although the cockpit and rear was spot on. Got on with painting the wing pylons and the ECM stores, the skyshadow and BOZ-107 are really nice parts they should look pretty good when the decals are on. Whilst the intakes are still off I've used them to try to make some intake covers using the tissue paper method I've read on BM.
nimrod54 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 I've glued the wings in the forward position which has also meant I've fixed the excess anhedral problem. Neal, I wondered how you have represented the flexible areas at the trailing edge/rear fuselage join. I have used tape for this previously but it never seems quite right, I seem to get it overscale. Any tips/advice would be most welcome.
Neal Posted May 13, 2012 Author Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Neal, I wondered how you have represented the flexible areas at the trailing edge/rear fuselage join. I have used tape for this previously but it never seems quite right, I seem to get it overscale. Any tips/advice would be most welcome. John, Your comments are interesting; I haven't done anything yet but I was going to copy you and "bigreg" and use some tamiya tape to represent the bags: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...=71963&st=0 the only other thing I can think of is have some really thin plasticard (0.1mm I think) which is quite pliable. Any other thoughts out there from the BM collective? Edited May 13, 2012 by Neal
nimrod54 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Your comments are interesting; I haven't done anything yet but I was going to copy you and "bigreg" and use some tamiya tape to represent the bags:http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...=71963&st=0 Thanks for the link Neal. I have been using decorators tape to represent the fabric look of the seals but having checked bigreg's build think that his and your suggestion of Tamiya tape painted up would look better at this scale. Trying to be too smart I think, need to remember that less is more. Cheers again. P.S. Checked out your completed builds, some really good ideas and work there. Particularly like the Tomcat. Edited May 14, 2012 by nimrod54
Neal Posted May 14, 2012 Author Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks for the link Neal. I have been using decorators tape to represent the fabric look of the seals but having checked bigreg's build think that his and your suggestion of Tamiya tape painted up would look better at this scale. Trying to be too smart I think, need to remember that less is more. Cheers again. P.S. Checked out your completed builds, some really good ideas and work there. Particularly like the Tomcat. I might try out both and see which looks best. Thanks for the comments, the tomcat was fun to do although the kit was nowhere near as nice as the current revell 1:144 sets. Is there a WIP thread for your millenium falcon, I've an MPC one stashed away?
nimrod54 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Is there a WIP thread for your millenium falcon, I've an MPC one stashed away? Mine is also the MPC kit but sorry not done a WIP thread. PM inbound. Edited May 16, 2012 by nimrod54
Neal Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 Finished the fuel tanks and rescribed some of the lines I'd sanded off Fixed the front fuselage and attached it along with the intakes so I now have a pretty complete aircraft Completed the intake covers with a coat of paint and some highlights and lowlights to bring out the texture.
nimrod54 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Hey Neal those intake covers look brilliant. I'll try that technique out. Thanks for comments re Millenium Falcon build. I think your right about the painting, that will be make or break. I hope I can do it justice.
Neal Posted May 20, 2012 Author Posted May 20, 2012 Hey Neal those intake covers look brilliant. I'll try that technique out.Thanks for comments re Millenium Falcon build. I think your right about the painting, that will be make or break. I hope I can do it justice. John, it's worth checking out Tinners falcon for an excellent paint job: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79485 The covers are a bit thick still but that can be easily fixed, they need some RBF tags as well.… Does anyone know where I could get some 1:144 pilots or ground crew to pose outside the model? I've a few thing on in the next few weeks so I doubt there will be much progress.
nimrod54 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 John, it's worth checking out Tinners falcon for an excellent paint job:Does anyone know where I could get some 1:144 pilots or ground crew to pose outside the model? Thanks for the link Neal, I have bookmarked it. I will study it further over the next few days and use it for reference when I finally start to paint it. As for figures I thought that these might be of use. Preiser Nato Pilots/Ground Crew
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