Dr Jimbo Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) I'm gearing up for my next build, Monogram's He111. For a kit more than 15 years old, it looks fabulous and will be my toughest build so far, having stuck to single seaters and a Ju-87. I can't wait to get going on it, but have to finish my Hurricane first. I am going to pull out all the stops and want to get some aftermarket bits to add to it. I've not bought any aftermarket stuff before apart from exhaust stubbs for the Hurricane and don't know where to start. I have the Verlinden detail set which I hear is rubbish. It has more flash than I've ever seen. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should get to add to this build. Also, if any of you can remember building this kit and have any warnings, tips or advice, please tell me. The kitchen still smells of thinners and my wife is coming home any minute, bugger... James. Edited April 17, 2012 by Dr Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 tips or advice, please tell me.The kitchen still smells of thinners and my wife is coming home any minute, bugger... James. use acrylics!!!.... as for the He111....without just going 'google it'..... several builds here http://www.modelingmadness.com/kitindex/kitindexghi.htm but a search on Hyperscale and ARC I'm sure will turn up more. It may not even need aftermarket..... HTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 It's a nice kit, take your time over the pit, and get the Eduard paint masks, All thet glazing is fun! If you're patient, drill out the holes on top of the engine nacelles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Don't bother with the True Details resin cockpit, it's not much different from the kit parts, IIRC. If you must get an aftermarket pit (I don't think it needs one, but you want to ho that way… )I think the Aires pit may be worthwhile, you get resin and PE bits to use. I think there are resin exhausts as well as resin tires available for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jimbo Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 use acrylics!!!....as for the He111....without just going 'google it'..... several builds here http://www.modelingmadness.com/kitindex/kitindexghi.htm but a search on Hyperscale and ARC I'm sure will turn up more. It may not even need aftermarket..... HTH T Troy, thank you. More pics and ideas. Your link is to modelling madness is well worth looking at. Going to look at Koster exhausts, 3 Guy decals and reheats instrument decals, although as you say, the reviewer says you don't need much. Mentioned a problem with the wings, but no more details. I assume they are not accurate rather than they don't fit.... Keep it coming, James Don't bother with the True Details resin cockpit, it's not much different from the kit parts, IIRC. If you must get an aftermarket pit (I don't think it needs one, but you want to ho that way… )I think the Aires pit may be worthwhile, you get resin and PE bits to use. I think there are resin exhausts as well as resin tires available for it as well. I'll look at the Aires office too.. Thanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I've used the Aires set and it is excellent, a good combination of resin and etch. I'd already bought the TD set and it's nothing more than a lightly modded recast of the original kit parts - not impressed! Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jimbo Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 I've used the Aires set and it is excellent, a good combination of resin and etch.I'd already bought the TD set and it's nothing more than a lightly modded recast of the original kit parts - not impressed! Cheers, Bill. Just been looking at the Aires set on e-bay - £14.25 + P&P. It looks good and reviews back it up. Who does good masks, I've never used a mask set before? Thanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilneBay Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) I built one a few years back - the only problem I recall was aligning the wings at the right dihedral on the fuselage. One of those jobs where you have to be quite careful. And the other thing I recall, from a post elsewhere, is that our friend Gaston thinks it's all ballsed up. IIRC his main gripe is the canopy shape. Edited April 18, 2012 by MilneBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankymodeler Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) I've got two of these kits in the process of being converted into the Spanish built CASA 2.111, a thread is posted in the WIP section here on BM. I think the kit is pretty good OOB, nothing a few simple tweaks can't improve. If your interested in my humble opinion, here's what I've found: For the cockpit, a few easily made details from styrene and wire will do nicely, IMHO an aftermarket set is not needed. I must agree with others that the shape of the canopy seems a bit off, but since I needed to use an aftermarket set because of the differences between the Heinkel and the CASAs I didn't investigate too far. I did use the lower part of the canopy and the glazing in my kits is crisp clear, and fit well. Masking can be a little tedious, but I've not tried a mask set. The wings will need a bit of fitting, I found I needed a thin shim on the underside but the tops fit fairly well. Check the dihedral with your references. The wheel wells will need some work. I found the walls didn't fit well, I used styrene to fill gaps and reinforce seams. I dont like the doors being molded into the side walls, makes construction awkward and they are easy to knock off, I removed them and will make new hinges to attach them late in the build. The landing gear builds up to a nice looking unit. Take your time to assemble each unit on a flat surface. When you install the gear into the wells, attach the main struts first to get them aligned, then if necessay trim the trailing struts to fit into their sockets. I think the kit wheels look fine, perhaps a bit too much 'tire bulge' for my taste (sounds like my mid section ) but that can be easily corrected with a bit of sanding. I can't address the engines or props, I didn't use them. Hope this helps, looking forward to seeing your build, best of luck! Eric F. aka The Yankymodeler http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78051 Edited April 18, 2012 by Yankymodeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 If you're patient, drill out the holes on top of the engine nacelles! Tell us more! Why is this recommended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Tell us more! Why is this recommended? I believe the oil coolers are on top of the nacelles, my kit has the area covered in small dimples to represent perforations. I used a small pin drill and opened mine up! Masks by Eduard. http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/EDEX006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jimbo Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 I've got two of these kits in the process of being converted into the Spanish built CASA 2.111, a thread is posted in the WIP section here on BM. I think the kit is pretty good OOB, nothing a few simple tweaks can't improve. If your interested in my humble opinion, here's what I've found: For the cockpit, a few easily made details from styrene and wire will do nicely, IMHO an aftermarket set is not needed. I must agree with others that the shape of the canopy seems a bit off, but since I needed to use an aftermarket set because of the differences between the Heinkel and the CASAs I didn't investigate too far. I did use the lower part of the canopy and the glazing in my kits is crisp clear, and fit well. Masking can be a little tedious, but I've not tried a mask set. The wings will need a bit of fitting, I found I needed a thin shim on the underside but the tops fit fairly well. Check the dihedral with your references. The wheel wells will need some work. I found the walls didn't fit well, I used styrene to fill gaps and reinforce seams. I dont like the doors being molded into the side walls, makes construction awkward and they are easy to knock off, I removed them and will make new hinges to attach them late in the build. The landing gear builds up to a nice looking unit. Take your time to assemble each unit on a flat surface. When you install the gear into the wells, attach the main struts first to get them aligned, then if necessay trim the trailing struts to fit into their sockets. I think the kit wheels look fine, perhaps a bit too much 'tire bulge' for my taste (sounds like my mid section ) but that can be easily corrected with a bit of sanding. I can't address the engines or props, I didn't use them. Hope this helps, looking forward to seeing your build, best of luck! Eric F. aka The Yankymodeler http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78051 Eric, this is just the advice I was after, thanks. I'm in 2 minds about getting an aftermarket set now. I'm going to have to have a close look at the kit. With that fabulous canopy, it's going to be on full view and I'm not sure I'm ready to start making my own bits a pieces to go into it. Thanks for the tips on the wings and wheel wells, I will bear all of this in mind. Forewarned is forearmed or something like that! I am going to have to get a mask set though... James. I believe the oil coolers are on top of the nacelles, my kit has the area covered in small dimples to represent perforations. I used a small pin drill and opened mine up!Masks by Eduard. http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/EDEX006 Have you got any pics? I'd love to see them if you have any... James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ6 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I've got one of these in progress which I really must finish at some point. I haven't seen the Aires cockpit but I would avoid the verlindeon one. I'm not using half the parts from the set I bought as there is little improvement over the kit parts in most cases. I did buy the Eduard big ed set for this model which I think represents good value for money. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52821 Just got to crack on with it and get it finished off like many of my projects. Regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I believe the oil coolers are on top of the nacelles, my kit has the area covered in small dimples to represent perforations. I used a small pin drill and opened mine up! Correction: The intakes on top of the engines are in fact for the carburettors. I am looking for clear photos showing a 'perforated' cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel Burchard Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Correction: The intakes on top of the engines are in fact for the carburettors As far as I know (and with my limited knowledge of english) there wasn't such thing on fuel injected Jumo 211 p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Since you mentioned Koster, it might be worth your while to track down his He 111 detail/conversion set. Among other things, it's got some very nice white metal guns, alternative gondola parts for a number of different H variants, and engines for a P. Pip Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 As far as I know (and with my limited knowledge of english) there wasn't such thing on fuel injected Jumo 211p. I'm going on the quoted word from a cutaway in William Green's Warplanes of the Third Reich. Teach me not to rush my replies in my lunch hour! As the Jumo 211 is a diesel engine, you are correct. Only the 111P had DB 601's Looking again at my model, the intake on top of the engine nacelle has an exit slot and looks to the world like a cooler housing. According to Jane's there is an oil cooler in the lubrication system, and as the coolant rads are underslung, and the supercharger intake is on the right side of the nacelle, I'm sticking with my original story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I've got one of these in progress which I really must finish at some point.I haven't seen the Aires cockpit but I would avoid the verlindeon one. I'm not using half the parts from the set I bought as there is little improvement over the kit parts in most cases. I did buy the Eduard big ed set for this model which I think represents good value for money. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52821 Just got to crack on with it and get it finished off like many of my projects. Regards, Mark Hope you get this finished Mark, it looks great so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Wyllie Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Correction: The intakes on top of the engines are in fact for the carburettors. I am looking for clear photos showing a 'perforated' cover Just stumbled into this thread and am wondering if I have entered a parallel universe, a rift in the space/time continuum or passed through the looking-glass and accidentally eaten a small piece of magic mushroom. Carburettors on fuel-injected engines, diesel fuelled Jumo 211s and holes drilled in the oil cooler fairing !! The latter would be for short range missions only, I assume. BTW, did you know of the hitherto secret equipment fitted to BoB 111s? Seems that some were fitted with small tanks in the rear of the nacelles containing nitrous oxide. This was for injection into the induction system and the equipment was given the name L-Geraet (Lachgas geraet). The theory was that the pilots of RAF fighters attacking from astern would fly through the exhaust stream and laugh so uncontrollably that they would be unable to hold the sight on the target aircraft. Edited April 22, 2012 by Iain Wyllie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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