jesterhud Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Hi Can someone please let me know what the best Humbrol paint colours would be to use for the camo on a 1980s era RAF Hawk, as in the attached link ? Edit, on the link click on the next tab at the bottom right to get onto the back photo of the box. Thanks http://www.matchboxkits.org/product_info.php?products_id=706 Edited April 9, 2012 by jesterhud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 BS381 537 Signal Red - Humbrol 174 BS381 627 Light Aircraft Grey - Humbrol 166 White - Humbrol 130 Satin White You might want to finish it with a (scale) semi-gloss varnish as the originals were painted gloss. Nice avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterhud Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 BS381 537 Signal Red - Humbrol 174BS381 627 Light Aircraft Grey - Humbrol 166 White - Humbrol 130 Satin White You might want to finish it with a (scale) semi-gloss varnish as the originals were painted gloss. Nice avatar! Thanks but i meant the Camoflage version on the back of the box, appreciate the answer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Or if you want the camo: Humbrol 30 Dark Green Humbrol 164 Dark Sea Green Humbrol 166 Lt A/C Grey HTH Cheers Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy K Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Camouflaged Hawks were in Dark Green/ Dark Sea Grey in the 80's with Light Aircraft Grey undersides, later on they were painted in the green/grey wraparound scheme like this one; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Thanks but i meant the Camoflage version on the back of the box, appreciate the answer though. Durrrrr... not enough chocolate! I did this for SAM a decade or so back, might be useful: Edited April 9, 2012 by Jonathan Mock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterhud Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Great stuff, thanks very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evalman Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Camouflaged Hawks were in Dark Green/ Dark Sea Grey in the 80's with Light Aircraft Grey undersides, later on they were painted in the green/grey wraparound scheme like this one; I'm almost certain that only the prototype had light aircraft grey undersides, production Hawks were delivered with wrap round cammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acky190 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Anyone have any idea on the interior and seat colour for the early headbox Hawks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 HiCan someone please let me know what the best Humbrol paint colours would be to use for the camo on a 1980s era RAF Hawk, as in the attached link ? Edit, on the link click on the next tab at the bottom right to get onto the back photo of the box. Thanks http://www.matchboxkits.org/product_info.php?products_id=706 Humbrol 163 (RAF Dark Green) and Humbrol 164 (RAF Dark Sea Grey). Do NOT use Humbol 30. Its too "green". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm almost certain that only the prototype had light aircraft grey undersides, production Hawks were delivered with wrap round cammo. Correct - only one (XX156) of the pre-production test and evaluation aircraft had LAC Grey lower surfaces. All other Hawks entered service in the Signal Red/White/LACG scheme. Hawks flying with the TWU's at Chivenor and Brawdy were given wrap around camo a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evalman Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Correct - only one (XX156) of the pre-production test and evaluation aircraft had LAC Grey lower surfaces. All other Hawks entered service in the Signal Red/White/LACG scheme. Hawks flying with the TWU's at Chivenor and Brawdy were given wrap around camo a few years later. I remember reading an old Aviation News (1978 ish - still got a copy somewhere) showing the first deliveries to Brawdy, they came straight from the factory in wrap around cammo, I don't think any TWU Hawks were delivered in the Trainer scheme. Certainly by the time Chivenor reopened in 1980 all the Hawks that came from Brawdy and the few 151 Sqn Hawks still to be delivered were grey/green cammo. During the 1980's one or two red/white/grey Hawks found their way from Valley to the TWU's. Edited April 9, 2012 by Evalman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I remember reading an old Aviation News (1978 ish - still got a copy somewhere) showing the first deliveries to Brawdy, they came straight from the factory in wrap around cammo, I don't think any TWU Hawks were delivered in the Trainer scheme. Certainly by the time Chivenor reopened in 1980 all the Hawks that came from Brawdy and the few 151 Sqn Hawks still to be delivered were grey/green cammo. During the 1980's one or two red/white/grey Hawks found their way from Valley to the TWU's. Seconded. The Hawk Mk52s purchased by Kenya did have dark green/dark sea grey upper surfaced with light aircraft grey under, and have been painted that way ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkkeeper Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Anyone have any idea on the interior and seat colour for the early headbox Hawks? dark sea grey for ALL UK Hawk cockpits & ejection seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acky190 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 dark sea grey for ALL UK Hawk cockpits & ejection seats. Arrrgghh someone else said Dark Admiralty Grey or Humbrol no5! Repaint coming on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkkeeper Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Arrrgghh someone else said Dark Admiralty Grey or Humbrol no5! Repaint coming on!!! near enough, at work we use dark admirality grey for cockpit touch ups. doubt anyone will notice if it was the exact colour/shade of grey, cockpit is small anyway. Edited April 10, 2012 by Hawkkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acky190 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Are all the wheel wells, legs etc LAG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smark Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Are all the wheel wells, legs etc LAG? Generally, the wheel wells are white and the U/C and inside of the U/C doors are LAG. This is the same for the Red Arrows and Gloss black Scheme, except on the inside of the 'inner' door to the main bays where the inside colour is the same as the outside colour respectively. There are some excellent photos in the 'Hawker Siddeley Hawk' Walkaround in the Aircraft Walkaround section. The main wells appear to get quite dirty with the nose well less so. Hope that helps. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 NOt LACG, but BS631 LIght Grey - very similar colour, but a touch more blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkkeeper Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) Are all the wheel wells, legs etc LAG? U/C bays are White U/C legs are LAG at work we use light aircraft grey to do any leg touch ups. large inner u/c doors are now black on black hawks or red on RA hawks, used to be LAG on camo a/c & air defence grey a/c Edited April 11, 2012 by Hawkkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 NOt LACG, but BS631 LIght Grey - very similar colour, but a touch more blue. Same with the first gen HARs but LAG seemed to take over eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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