Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 hi guys i have see nloads of photos with paveway 2's 3s on typhoons but cant see any with enhanced paveways the same that are in the revell boxings if they are are there any photos? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Think that's all they were carrying during the Libya campaign, just had a quick check and I've found two photo's in AFM of an 11 Sqn (ZJ933) and 3 Sqn (possibly ZJ623?) airframes carrying enhanced Paveway II and carrying Op Ellamy markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Think that's all they were carrying during the Libya campaign, just had a quick check and I've found two photo's in AFM of an 11 Sqn (ZJ933) and 3 Sqn (possibly ZJ623?) airframes carrying enhanced Paveway II and carrying Op Ellamy markings. sorry i confused my self, the revell kit has the second of these 2 bombs in its kit, but i cant find any ref to them being used by the typhoon, the top pic, is what i see tiffys using i want to make a fully bombed up tiffy, so to rephrase the question, can the tiffy use the second of these 2 and if so are there any piccys i cant find them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane363 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I will speak to the resident bombheads at work tomorrow and let you know of you are still in need of an answer. Mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 I will speak to the resident bombheads at work tomorrow and let you know of you are still in need of an answer.Mat. thanks mat, i got to cby all the time and was there yesterday and havent seen any but... i want to do a fully loaded one with 6 bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Mark, thats a Paveway III, pretty sure there not cleared to be carried yet, the next set of weapons to be cleared with the Block 8 upgrade SRP14 (I think) are Storm Shadow, Paveway IV, Brimstone and the Meteor AAM. The Paveway III is a 2000lb weapon so not sure how many the airframe would be able to carry when loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 thanks muzz, so i have no need of them, (are they used by tonkas, if so i have another job for them) so for a 6 bombed tiffy i need 6 paveway 2s like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yes, Tornado GR4 cleared for and used on operations in Op Telic. Yes, your spot on with the photo, you need Paveway II's like the training rounds in the photo, or live of course. Not sure if they would ever carry six on real world ops but you never know!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 thanks a lot muzz thats perfect, now to find 6 paveway 2's that wont cost a fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Harriers also used the 2000Lb paveway, sometimes balanced with a fuel tank on the opp side Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane363 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hyperthetically.... if i were to do a fully 'bombed up' typhoon i would go for: STN 1 & 2... ASRAAM STN 3 & 4... MFRL with AMRAAM STN 5 & 6...1000ltr SFT's STN 7 & 8... PAVEWAY II STN 9 & 12... AMRAAM STN 13 ... LDP not saying that this load is gospel.... but it isnt far from the realms of possability. Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 thats a nice load and one i will look at, im building 4 tiffys a clean one a bombed up one a missile only and a mixed load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb'ed Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Harriers also used the 2000Lb paveway, sometimes balanced with a fuel tank on the opp sideJulien Harriers did use PW3 , carried on the inboards, fuel tanks were moved to the intermediates and the balance was on the L/H outboard, a CBU or 540, Fuel tanks weren't used as a balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb'ed Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 hi guys i have see nloads of photos with paveway 2's 3s on typhoons but cant see any with enhanced paveways the same that are in the revell boxingsif they are are there any photos? thanks If you put Typhoon Gioia Del Colle into search on Yahoo images, there are a number of shots of Typhoons loaded with Enhanced Paveway 2, in the shots you'll see they have two silver bands mid way on the bomb body, basically these are two huge jubilie clips that secure the conduit to the bomb, also two round aerials on top and bottom of the head (GPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Harriers did use PW3 , carried on the inboards, fuel tanks were moved to the intermediates and the balance was on the L/H outboard, a CBU or 540, Fuel tanks weren't used as a balance. I was shown a picture of a Harrier with one PWIII on one side and a fuel tank on the other side, only carrying the one tank? Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomb'ed Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I was shown a picture of a Harrier with one PWIII on one side and a fuel tank on the other side, only carrying the one tank?Julien That seem strange as on release it would leave the jet aysimetric, don't suppose you have the pic? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobski Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hyperthetically.... if i were to do a fully 'bombed up' typhoon i would go for:STN 1 & 2... ASRAAM STN 3 & 4... MFRL with AMRAAM STN 5 & 6...1000ltr SFT's STN 7 & 8... PAVEWAY II STN 9 & 12... AMRAAM STN 13 ... LDP not saying that this load is gospel.... but it isnt far from the realms of possability. Mat If you want "gospel" then the load would be as follows Tips - ASRAAM Outboards - EPW2 Centre-Wing - Tanks Inboards - EPW2 Fuselage Launchers - AMRAAM Centreline - LITENING III pod That's a pretty realistic combat load. As for the question about the bombs in the box, they are non-enhanced UK Paveway IIIs, so they are good for Tornados and Harriers (and I've seen a photo of one on the centreline of a Jaguar) but not Typhoon. For Typhoon you want enhanced UK Paveway II 1000lb bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That seem strange as on release it would leave the jet aysimetric, don't suppose you have the pic? Cheers Not unusual, though. The Super Etendard balances an Exocet with a tank and the F-105 sometimes did the same with an M118 (3000lb!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1701 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi Mark, These any use to you? Practise EPW II rounds on a bird late last year. Pilot saw the pics and was intouch afterwards and said they were dumped on Aberporth range. Pretty poor light at the time I'm afraid. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 fantastic gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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