Aziraphael Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm currently building Dragon's Tiger I Late Production with Zimmerit and have a couple of questions regarding the painting and weathering of the exhaust stacks. First of all, what's the weathering process on Tiger's exhausts? Do they rust in the same way as, say, a Panzer IV's? Or was the metal a different composition? The painting guide calls out for "Burnt Iron" but despite searching the web i can't find out if a rust effect needs to be added over this. Secondly, how do you go about the painting process of the exhaust area as a whole. The only way i can see to do this effectively, is to paint and weather the area around and behind the exhaust stacks, in this case using Dunkelgelb i guess, then add the painted and, if necessary, weathered exhaust stacks. Then finally add the exhaust covers, with the inside painted and weathered. The outside of the covers would be painted during the usual painting process. Obviously if i go down this route i'd need to mask the inner exhaust area during painting. Is there an easier way than this? How do you do yours? Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy K Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Personally I would have painted them seperately as Tiger exhausts, especially when fitting the shrouds are virtually impossible to paint.However for the actual exhaust pipes I use pastel chalks in various shades ranging from black to brown to orange, dabbing them on and blending until I get a rust effect I like. The bases the pipes fit onto I tend to leave in the base colour of the vehicle. Thats me anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziraphael Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Thanks for the reply Andy. Your method sounds the most sensible route for working on this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Ausf.E Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) A bit late in the day! But I saw this post and thought the pictures from the exhausts of a runnung Tiger may help? Edited June 26, 2012 by Tiger Ausf.E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy K Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 That is an excellent study in the way heat affects the paint, great pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 dont suppose you have the same for a PZ II ;-) would it be similar (horizontal exhaust - dessert so probably no rusted I gues) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Ausf.E Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Pzkpfw II in Tunisia 1942/3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 now that looks useful - thank you... nice weathering ideas, dents etc (I kno wit is in a museum and been done up).... must say I dont like the grey/brown scheme tho ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Agreed, very nice photos of the tiger and great help for weathering ideas. As for the panzer grey/brown scheme, this is something hotly contested in many forums, cropping up every few years. Researchers Jentz and Doyle published their findings maybe a decade ago? http://www.missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts.htm Many have accepted this dual camou scheme. Some so ardently that they believe there is no room for thought concerning an all grey vehicle (which had been the norm for such a long time), during the Polish and French campaigns. Some though still hold out and believe not all had the brown added since it is so hard to see in both b/w and colour period photos. So if yo do omit the brown and someone points this out, you can simply reply that it is there, but it can't be seen. regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Agreed, very nice photos of the tiger and great help for weathering ideas. As for the panzer grey/brown scheme, this is something hotly contested in many forums, cropping up every few years. Researchers Jentz and Doyle published their findings maybe a decade ago? http://www.missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts.htm Many have accepted this dual camou scheme. Some so ardently that they believe there is no room for thought concerning an all grey vehicle (which had been the norm for such a long time), during the Polish and French campaigns. Some though still hold out and believe not all had the brown added since it is so hard to see in both b/w and colour period photos. So if yo do omit the brown and someone points this out, you can simply reply that it is there, but it can't be seen. regards, Jack yeah done lots of searching - all i can find are models of the 8000/7027 scheme - no good quality colour photos... but doing it non-the-less ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger2 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hi,are the pictures of the Tiger tank,taken at Bovington tank museum,i saw a Tiger tank there in the same paint scheme. Regards Smudger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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