tomprobert Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) My next long term project is going to be Sanger's 1/48th Avro Shackleton AEW2. I built the same company's Avro Lincoln a few years back, and encountered few problems. This release of the Shackleton is better still, with crisp vacform moldings, nice white metal parts and a comprehensive set of plans. This particular kit allows you to build an 8 Squadron machine (based at RAF Lossiemouth), one of the last in service before being replaced by the E-3 in 1991. First up are some shots of the kit. Fuselage and wings (the latter are the same as in the Lincoln kit): Engines and tail etc: Canopies and white-metal parts (I'll include more pictures of these when I've opened them up): And finally the plans/instructions, the decals and Warpaint's publication on the Shackleton which is a valuable source of photo's: As with all vacform builds, I plan to tackle each part of the model as a mini-kit in itself, and bring them all together when each sub-section has been completed. I'm going to start with the engines, as these seem the most tricky part of the build. When I'm up and running, I'll add some pictures. Tom Edited April 14, 2012 by tomprobert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 'nuff said! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This'll be good. This year I made a promise I'm going to start a vac kit.. Can't wait to see this progress as I'm going to need help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzH Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 looking forwards to this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richellis Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Will this be any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We often see "sanger" and "long-term" used in the same sentence Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 All my best wishes go with you, I've seen some fabulous builds from Sangar kits, but I've never managed it. I shall look forward to your postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratcher Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'd no idea there was a 1/48th kit for a Lossie based Shackleton. A 30 inch wingspan will make for a most impressive model! I'm looking forward to watching the progress on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Tom, you really do put yourself through it. Long term in your vocabulary probably means a month Lokking forwards to seeing your progress as I do with all your builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 One of my all-time favourite aeroplanes! I look forward to this build. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius at Home Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hi Tom, Good for you for tacking this kit - I shall watch this thread with interest!!! I have PM'd to you some in progress pictures from when I built the 1:48 Sanger MR3 kit a few years ago which hopefully will be of use. Darius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ooooooh! Kit from Ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Will this be any help? Hi Rich, Very useful - thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ooooooh!Kit from Ebay? No, Hannants stock most of Sanger's range: http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php...25&pageID=2 Or, you could go directly to Sanger's website: http://www.sangereng.fsnet.co.uk/home_page.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I get the feeling I need to go photo crazy of WR963 this weekend with so many people building a Shackleton lately. If anybody wants to come and poke around an AEW2, let me know. The Sanger Shackleton is pretty good, though the wingtips and engine nacelle shape leaves a lot to be desired. No radiator shutters, air filters... Regards, Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I get the feeling I need to go photo crazy of WR963 this weekend with so many people building a Shackleton lately. If anybody wants to come and poke around an AEW2, let me know.The Sanger Shackleton is pretty good, though the wingtips and engine nacelle shape leaves a lot to be desired. No radiator shutters, air filters... Regards, Rich Hi Rich, Any photo's you have of the bomb-bay (I plan to have mine open) and the wheel-bays would be great! Regarding the engines, I've been informed of the shape issues, hence I'm planning to start them first and get the toughest bit out of the way (famous last words!) I've got some fine mesh ready to replicate the radiators seen in the intakes, but the rest will have to be scratch-built. The shutters on the sides of the nacelles shouldn't be too taxing though... but we'll have to see! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I have some photo's of the bomb bay already. New ones may not be too much use as we have a cargo pannier in there at the moment which kind of spoils the view! The shutters are the same profile as the cowling, so they are flush when in the 'trail' position. The panel behind the shutters is the interestingly shaped one. As I mentioned earlier though, the biggest omission is the filters, below and aft of the shutters. There is a rather visible bulge, with two grilles and a central spine at the very bottom (which is part of the fuel drain) I'll post some stuff up in a couple of hours when I get back from work. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 AEW2 bomb bay looking aft. The 'egg crate' style construction starts where the transport joint is, between the centre section and rear intermediate section AEW2 bomb bay looking forward. Notice the bomb doors have a shaped inner, and are fitted with fluorescent lights. The remains of the ducting behind the hydrualic lines on this picture is part of the heating system, it originally ran up both sides. Undercarraige bay looking forward. You can see the main spar boom, and theres another just like it at the top next to the wing skin, just out of shot. The two large pipes are generator air inlet and outlet. In the starboard bay (shown) there is also a hydraulic hand pump fitted between the fire bottles. The red struts are the undercarraige external locks. The yellow ladder is the crewladder, and I was using it to get up into the bay.. I'll get rearwards, and sideways shot tomorrow. The rib construction in the bay is very similar to on the Lancaster. This is the best profile shot I have of an outboard engine nacelle, taken about 18 months ago. You can see the filter grilles, and the deeper shape to tthe boat tail of the nacelle compared against the Sanger moulding. Taken at the same time, a closer shot of the radiator shutters. There's loads more pictures in my photobucket account, and anything you want specifically I can get any Saturday when I put the spanners down. http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/richw_82/?start=all Kind regards, Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 There's loads more pictures in my photobucket account, and anything you want specifically I can get any Saturday when I put the spanners down.http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/richw_82/?start=all Kind regards, Rich Hi Rich, Fantastic shots... very uselful indeed. Is this beauty a possible airworthy candidate? I see she's in 'running order'. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'd love to say "yes" but there's nothing currently being planned for airworthy, the last survey done showed she was life expired and would need a few miliion spending on re-sparring the wings before anything else. Fast taxying is the aim for now. Out of the 185 built she's currently the last running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 great undercart picture there Rich Wish I'd had that when I was making mine all those years ago I expect our car club will be visiting you at Cov some time this year If they don't go I'll come alone. I'll let you know when. See if we can tie up one day Love the Shackleton with a passion bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 I've made a start today on the Rolls-Royce Griffon engines. Sanger provide the engine front plate, but no radiator detail or the supports which link the propeller mountings to the outer colwling. Here they are before cutting out and sanding to shape: These are the mounts for the props, which sit proud of the radiators and protrude slightly from the cowlings. Again, these are seen before removal from the backing plastic: Here are both sections removed and sanded to shape: The propeller mounts were then glued to the backing plates: Next I cut some fine mesh to shape to represent the radiator fronts, and then cut some strips from spare backing plastic in preparation for making the supports: Finally, following Sanger's plans I added the required supports: They still need a bit of work and neatening up, but you get the idea. The next task will be work on the nacelles themselves, and then the fronts can of course be inserted when they are ready. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Great start Tom, You have a knack of making things look easy, which it is of course not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Awesome work so far! This is one of the lower cowlings, removed during maintenance. Obviously, its t'other way up when attached to the aircraft... When looking at one of these from the front, the intake is assymetric. On the right hand side is one large radiator. The small 'V' in the middle is the air intake for the engine, left side you have a small radiator, then the rounded intake which is the oil cooler. The small vents above the propeller centreline are intakes for ducting that cools the exhaust manifolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ6 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Looking good so far. I have some photos of the interior of the shackleton at Newark if you need any interior references. Regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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