Mark M Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 ive done a basic google search and the info is scetchy, at best, please can anyone supply piccys / info of what colours markings would they look like, would the RAF markings be over painted in the same or different colours? ive seen photos from several years later, after a complete repaint, but im guessing at the time of the conflict there was no time for a major repaint any ideas? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) ive done a basic google search and the info is scetchy, at best, please can anyone supply piccys / info of what colours markings would they look like, would the RAF markings be over painted in the same or different colours? ive seen photos from several years later, after a complete repaint, but im guessing at the time of the conflict there was no time for a major repaintany ideas? thanks Hi Mark As yet there is no definite evidence of the markings applied or hidden; the received wisdom would have it that the RAF markings were over painted with the Canberra's operating with no national markings but until some one from the time speaks up or a photo turns up your guess is as good as anyone's! John Edited February 10, 2012 by canberra kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Check this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The 'winking beagle' mentioned is shown here: http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/view...=18&t=51151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Jynx Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hi Mark. I don't know if this will be of any help but a reference from SAM Aug88 shows a Canberra PR.9 No342 Of the Chilean Air Force as Dark Green/ Dark Sea Grey upperside with Light Aircraft Grey underside. All markings are black apart from white star on rudder. If you would like me to I could post pictures later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) ive done a basic google search and the info is scetchy, at best, please can anyone supply piccys / info of what colours markings would they look like, would the RAF markings be over painted in the same or different colours? ive seen photos from several years later, after a complete repaint, but im guessing at the time of the conflict there was no time for a major repaintany ideas? thanks There was an article in a very old Warplane(?) magazine - which detailled these ops. I'll see if I can find it. The Chilean AF markings are included in both the 1/48th and 1/72nd scale Airfix kit's - I think? Edited February 10, 2012 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The Chilean AF markings are included in both the 1/48th and 1/72nd scale Airfix kit's - I think? They are indeed Bill. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerPaulo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Yeap, Airfix did a marvelous job with them, you can follow the instructions with ease and little risk of mistake. As Antoine's link states, Canberras didn't operate in Chile during the war, as did the Nimrods, herks and a lost Seaking that crashed near Punta Arenas, all hands unharmed. Herks wore Chilean marking and belonged to the "Fuerza Area de Chile"... yes they speelled it wrong. Chile had it hard during the war as Argentina had been in late 1978 in the brink of war with Chile, peace only preveiled thanks to a strom what prevented Argentina's and Chile's navies to star shooting each other and to the fast reaction of the Vatican's call for peace. So Pinochet's goverment WANTED to help the british but had to play a neutral role to prevent an adverse reaction from Latin-American (all South American goverment's at the time supported Argentina). So Chilean help had to be very silent. For more reference on Chilean Canberras I recomend Multimodels book, found where: http://edicionesmultimodel.blogspot.com/ Edited February 10, 2012 by PanzerPaulo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 thanks chaps yes i know boththe airfix kits have the markings and placement sheet, what im thinking is that, when the aircraft were transfered to the Chillien air force, the RAF markings were just painted over, ie. patchy finish, and CAF markings put on, i dont believe the whole aircrat were repainted, so even if a paint match could be found, the old paint would have faded, and thus the markings, roundals, sqn badges would appear in a newer paint, much brighter then the fafed original paint. hope that makes sense now there is also the possibility or the planes then opperating with no markings just the camo paint hence im looking for piccys, i know its a long shot but anything anyone has would be fab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerPaulo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 darn!! I'm of to the beach for the weekend, upon returning I'lll check my photolibrery, at least some pics I must have!!! For now this is the oldes looking pic on google: It seems to have the numbers, and the roundels painted over... and over that painted the Chilean marking and numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hi Mark I would be very surprised but delinted if a photo dose turn up, I think that what you are saying about the new paint over the RAF markings would be the case I'm sure the Aircraft would have had a major service in the UK before delivery to Chile so if the marking were applied locally it would have been new paint over old. A full re paint would normally only be done at a full major service. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 thanks guys that photo looks to have new stabiliser (differnt grey), and the grey around the numbers looks differnt too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerPaulo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) exactly, but the date of the picture is unknown...as John says they could had been painted in the UK before their service in Chile, and that pic could had been taken after some kind of work here... after all it's made of wood and maintenance would be in order. Look at the greens, they to look diferent in he mid-section the colour change is very interesting! Edited February 10, 2012 by PanzerPaulo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Bwing at RAF Wyton at the time (but not working on Canberras) I do recall some members of the Chilean Air Force being on the camp and assisting the painters as to where the national markings should be applied. I don't think that a total respray did take place as Wyton did not have the facilities for this to be carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Bwing at RAF Wyton at the time (but not working on Canberras) I do recall some members of the Chilean Air Force being on the camp and assisting the painters as to where the national markings should be applied. I don't think that a total respray did take place as Wyton did not have the facilities for this to be carried out. thanks Jabba, very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerPaulo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 no luck, all my Canberra pics are from 1987----> And reading the Canberra book (in FACH's service) I must admit that the posted pic is from '87 or later, between '87 and '88 the two surviving Canberras were re-painted, but to a very bad finish, no the whole plane was painted only the most damaged areas... looking just like the pic.... I'll pull some strings to get a colour pic, let's see if luck is with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Is the rudder not Chilean blue rather than Grey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerPaulo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Not all Chilean aircraft use the blue ruder... and as the PR.9 were use, in the lack of a better expresion, as spy planes, they were kept in a "low visibility" no blue ruder.... serving at the same time, for example, were A-37 with out the blue rudder and F-5 with it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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