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Does anybody know if the landing gear from the 1/32 Hasegawa kits have the wright lenght?

Hi Arnold. I have not heard of them being wrong. The only ones I've heard of being the wrong length, to any degree, are the Tamiya ones.

However, I could be wrong. ;)

Steve

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Hi Arnold. I have not heard of them being wrong. The only ones I've heard of being the wrong length, to any degree, are the Tamiya ones.

However, I could be wrong. ;)

Steve

I have printed a article on HyperScale Where there are some lengts for the undercariage. So I can measure them.

Here are the two links.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_1.htm

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_2.htm

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I have printed a article on HyperScale Where there are some lengts for the undercariage. So I can measure them.

Here are the two links.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_1.htm

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_2.htm

I have mamaged to measure them and they were spot on.

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Hi guys,

As I've posted, I'm going to be doing a JG54 A-4 of Hubertis von Bonin flown in Estonia. I'm just wanting to confirm the validity of the Hasegawa call out, which is RLM 02/74/83. It seems, from Tank152's recent help, and reading what I can online, that this would be an acceptable scheme. But, is it accurate for von Bonins A-4?

Cheers in advance.

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doubtful. JG 54 were famous for their non standard schemes.

as I posted in another thread...

JG54 which allows for some unit applied green /brown non standard upper schemes which are quite interesting, the actaul colours are the subject of heated debate .. these may be A-4,right now I'm not in the mood to check but they did have A-5/6 though.

eg

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and

Here's another wacky JG54 colour pics, i have a bigger clearer version saved somewhere, with better colour, very similar to the one above..

see http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air-force/20100328-003.html

there are more IIRC, aslo JG 54 Bf 109's in the same colours as well.

One to check on the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board for...

T

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possibly yes to the first one, a big NO to the second though.. I don't have any 'evidence' one way or the other and obviously it's going to be difficult to 'disprove' something that didn't exist. Bear in mind Reschke is the 'historian' of JG 301 and was one of only a handful that flew the Ta 152 in combat with JG 301, so his comment about this being 'rubbish' has a lot of validity in my book.....once again a 'second-hand' tale takes on a life of its own..

did you read the linked thread?

note post 9, by Jerry Crandall - http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/i...ost&p=28208

In reference to the orange-red Ta152 flown by Geschwaderkommodore Obslt. Fritz Auffhammer JG301:

Both Fritz Auffhammer and Roderich Cescotti related this story separately to us, each having vivid memories because it was so unique. The reason this a/c was painted in this manner for this flight, as stated in our book, is Obslt. Auffhammer did not want to take any chances of being shot down by Flak units along the route that were unfamiliar with this a/c. He asked Hptm. Roderich Cescotti to escort him to Rechlin to drop this a/c off along with a list of complaints and suggestions regarding the Tank Ta152 in service.

This flight which occurred on 22 March 1945 is documented in Cescotti's log book. During one of our conversations with General Cescotti he told us he would never forget this flight. As he escorted this brilliantly painted Ta152, he flew behind it, above it, below it, to the side as he was deeply impressed with this bright, one-of-a-kind paint scheme.

During one of our visits, when both these gentlemen signed the Statement of Fact certificate which is reproduced in my book, I had painted several small models of Ta152s in different shades of this Red to Orange and they both chose the same color, which we reproduced in the book. So we are convinced this incident happened and these two command pilots did not make up this story.

Obviously our dear friend Willi Reschke was not involved to witness this event. We've known Willi and his dear wife Hildegard for almost 20 years. In the early 1990s we brought them, along with a dozen other pilots and spouses, to the US for a visit. We have also stayed with them in their home and have enjoyed many meetings and visits. In fact, at one time, we were going to publish his book in English offering all his photos, stories and flugbuch for reference, and we may still.

Cheers,

Jerry

also post 2http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4931&view=findpost&p=26154

After Mr. Auffhammer and others related the story involving the red-orange Ta152 I built and painted four Ta152 models for them to choose the correct color rather than to rely on a verbal description. The one every one agreed on was painted with a mixture of about 25% RLM 04 Yellow and 75% RLM 23 Red. One of the parties involved remarked "I'll never forget that color I can see it like it was yesterday". Mr. Auffhammer said he wanted the brightest red they could mix.

I'd not heard of this scheme before, and I did just read LEMB thread.

I don't know either way, and I am not trying to be clever, but Crandall does give his sources, Maybe a couple of old boys were winding up a gullible yank... though it was a one off one day scheme, for a fault reporting plane.

erm, anyway, how do I finish this..I know, you do a blog and do know yr stuff stuff.....

I know...........

... here's an all red Fw190..... :evil_laugh:

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see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...topic=234908806

I'll get my :coat: .....................

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hi guys

did the JV44 190's carry drop tanks/ pylons?

also the eduard 190 d9 has a depression on the lower wing for said pylon is that natural or will it need filling if I don' t fit a pylon

Darren

I've yet to see a photo of one of JV44's Doras with a drop tank or even a pylon fitted. I'd leave the depression as there was some of one on the real thing.

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Daz before you fill anything in take a look at this underside its from a profile of your Dora and is out of The Eagle-Editions book. It clearly shows the depression you are on about.

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I must add that, that isn't quite the right shape though according to Koichiro Abe's drawings. The depression should be more angular but it would need some surgery to that part of the wing to get it exactly right. As is the case with all these things, it depends on how far you want to go?

First D-9 under side

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Note the area between the wheel wells.

Next the same view of a D-13

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This is one of the faults with the Eduard kit and probably all stems from the mix up of wings of the surviving Doras in the US although I believe the wings have now been paired up to the correct fuselages?

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Great information Tim. Very handy indeed.

So basically the Eduard lower wing is correct for the D-13 but needs to be squared off for the D-9/11?

Steve

Steve the I'd say the Eduard kit is right for the D-11 and D-13 and not the D-9. But you'd have to ask yourself is it really worth all the extra work to correct? Its hardly a in your face error is it.

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I can remenber That there was a picture in the walk around book from Squadron for the D9, that it was with a point. But I can't remember if it was from the D9 or the D13 pictures. I will look it up later when I get home from work.

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I can remenber That there was a picture in the walk around book from Squadron for the D9, that it was with a point. But I can't remember if it was from the D9 or the D13 pictures. I will look it up later when I get home from work.

Its the D-9 at USAF Museum at Wright Paterson AFB, WkNr. 601088.

Although it has the pointy recess which may or may not be original as it has a single ejection port for the engine mounted cannon.

Steve

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Its the D-9 at USAF Museum at Wright Paterson AFB, WkNr. 601088.

Although it has the pointy recess which may or may not be original as it has a single ejection port for the engine mounted cannon.

Steve

Yeah Thats the one that had its wings from the D-13. The wings weren't mated to the correct aircraft until mid 2001.

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I have decided to leave it as this kit is starting to become an obsession of grand proportions easily the most challenging kit i've ever build bar none, which brings me onto my next point JV44 red? what do you reccomend because it looks almost scarlet to my eyes?

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Can any one tell me if FW 190d-11 jv 44 Red 4 had wooden flaps or not. If not i will use the Quickboost flaps dazdot has used

Thanks

Alistair

Just had a reply for the same question on LEMB from Jerry Crandall himself "Hello Alistair,

The flaps on "Red 4" very well could be wooden as other Fw190D-11s are known to have them, but without a photo it's only a guess.

Cheers, Jerry "

With this answer im going with wood . Now to figure out how to do them

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Eduard does them.

Also, a friend of mine was printing and selling suitable decals, but I'm not sure if he still has any - may ask if you'd be interested.

Best regards,

Maciej

Hello Maciej

Thank you for your information. I was hoping not to use the Eduard flaps as the complicated folding is out side my skill ability. I am thinking of scratch building the ribs on the upper wing with plastic card and either painting or useing a decal on the lower droped section. I came accros the Eagle parts 1/32 flap with decals but nothing in 1/48 so would be most intrested in ouyr friends decals if he / she is still producing them .

Regards

Alistair

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