Homebee Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Having cancelled its 1/32nd Westland Whirlwind kit ( http://www.britmodel...mp;hl=Whirlwind ), HpH has started a new project: a 1/32nd de Havilland DH.103 Hornet resin kit. Source: http://www.hphmodels.cz/kat163.html V.P. Edited September 29, 2014 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 HpH has started a new project a 1/32 de Havilland DH.103 Hornet resin kit. Source: http://amg.cdc.cz/kat130.html V.P. Sounds great. Hope they have accurate plans to base this on? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Any idea or indications why the Whirlwind was cancelled? cheers Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) It's just written here: http://amg.cdc.cz/kat130.html "Jako "náhradu" za zruený projekt "Whirlwindu" jsme si vybrali o nÄ›co mladà letadlo Dh-103 Hornet. Bude v měřÃtku 1:32."Babylon online translation Czech-British:"As the "Compensation for "canceled the project "whirlwindu "We have chosen a little younger plane DH - 103 hornet. It will be on a scale 32." Rumors say there's a injected plastic kit producer working on a 1/32nd Whirlwind. To be followed.V.P. Edited April 3, 2013 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Shame about the Whirlwind, hopefully one day it'll surface. Happy about the Hornet though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Any idea or indications why the Whirlwind was cancelled?cheers Ali Could have been legal issues? how much is similar between the 2 and they are getting the most out of what they had done? Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Not my scale but Source: http://www.hphmodels.cz/kat163.html V.P. Edited October 2, 2013 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Well I'm sorry but IF the artwork they are showing is any indication as to the plans they're using I don't hold much hope. The profiles are pure Huntley or the extremely similar Scale Planes (Fred Spring) Australian ones. Just look at the windscreen profile. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I sooo want a Hornet (or two) in 1:32 (crosses fingers). Have to say the other HpH kits have been stunning... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 They dropped the Whirlwind, like the Tempest, when they heard it was going to be produced by another company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ththtttu7 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 While not wanting to sound "off" here, surely the best way to achieve a really well detailed 1/32nd scale Hornet model, would have been to consult John Adams, Mark Gauntlett, John Ranson, or myself. We have all collaborated on ascertaining the most correct dimensions, shape, and colour schemes for the type and done our best to publish and build the results. I don't know how far into kit development they are now, but I'd happily assist if asked, if nothing else to stop profile/kit makers perpetuating incorrect details and colour schemes for the past 40 years....! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 While not wanting to sound "off" here, surely the best way to achieve a really well detailed 1/32nd scale Hornet model, would have been to consult John Adams, Mark Gauntlett, John Ranson, or myself. We have all collaborated on ascertaining the most correct dimensions, shape, and colour schemes for the type and done our best to publish and build the results. I don't know how far into kit development they are now, but I'd happily assist if asked, if nothing else to stop profile/kit makers perpetuating incorrect details and colour schemes for the past 40 years....! And Davids assistance would be invaluable - I speak from experience and gratitude, let alone the input of the others. Why is it that people get windscreens wring BTW - not just the Hornet. Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Well I'm sorry but IF the artwork they are showing is any indication as to the plans they're using I don't hold much hope. The profiles are pure Huntley or the extremely similar Scale Planes (Fred Spring) Australian ones. Just look at the windscreen profile. John John, I'm with you on those not so promising Colour Side Profiles. The forward part of the engine nacelles and the fin do not look right to me and I'm really not sure about those markings.....I'm no Hornet expert but those profiles simply don't add up. I really do hope that whoever is contemplating this kit in 1:32 has not gone too far down the design road and that they do consult those in the know who have generously offered to assist. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I don't think they've started the kit yet aside the box art, have pm'd John Aero regards obtaining his accurate drawings, and have also pm'd David. An associate of HpH's is an active member on LSP, here's a link to a HpH dedicated thread http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=28641 Here's hoping with the help of you guys an accurate state of the art 1/32 kit will be produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I am prepared to help a UK company with any of my research or drawings but not eastern european commercial interests. I'd hope that any such material can be kept here in the UK for use by UK companies rather than have it consumed for free by greedy foreign concerns who won't even acknowledge their sources but are happy to make money from it. I think many people know I'm usually very willing to help fellow enthusiasts. I take David's point about producing an accurate kit but so many of the eastern kits are produced using drawings that were cloned from western magazines and books and just reprinted or traced in various publications during the Cold War. In recent years much of the original material has been found to have errors and inaccuracies and the clones still carry on the virus. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbag Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Why is it that people get windscreens wring BTW - not just the Hornet. Jonners Could be a simple case of human error Jonners. Much like your example above. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Could be a simple case of human error Jonners. Much like your example above. Chris. LOL yeah except a simple typo doesn't eff up an expensive model, whereas shoddy research does. Yaboo. Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbag Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 LOL yeah except a simple typo doesn't eff up an expensive model, whereas shoddy research does. Yaboo. Jonners Totally agree Jonners but I simply couldn't resist. Chris.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas mayhew Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I am prepared to help a UK company with any of my research or drawings but not eastern european commercial interests. I'd hope that any such material can be kept here in the UK for use by UK companies rather than have it consumed for free by greedy foreign concerns who won't even acknowledge their sources but are happy to make money from it. I think many people know I'm usually very willing to help fellow enthusiasts. I take David's point about producing an accurate kit but so many of the eastern kits are produced using drawings that were cloned from western magazines and books and just reprinted or traced in various publications during the Cold War. In recent years much of the original material has been found to have errors and inaccuracies and the clones still carry on the virus. John Wow So you only buy Airfix and Hornby, and nothing from abroad? I cannot believe I have just read that. Nicholas Mayhew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Keller Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hello, The Hornet is one of my favorite aircraft! I've been gathering information and drawings to scratch build a 1/32nd model. I didn't realize that the Huntley drawings were wrong. Could one of the more knowledgable members help me understand where they are "off" or, better still, point me in the direction of a set of accurate drawings for my model? Thank you in advance! Al Keller [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Wow So you only buy Airfix and Hornby, and nothing from abroad? I cannot believe I have just read that. Nicholas Mayhew If someone wants to help UK companies (and as mentioned in this context, for free) in preference that's ok isn't it?! Most people wouldn't offer the help to anyone at all... Sorry (I do try to ignore these type of comments), but to tell someone who they can and can't offer their help and time to is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas mayhew Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 If someone wants to help UK companies (and as mentioned in this context, for free) in preference that's ok isn't it?! Most people wouldn't offer the help to anyone at all... Sorry (I do try to ignore these type of comments), but to tell someone who they can and can't offer their help and time to is a bit much. I too try to ignore comments such as yours, but hey I'll make an exception Frankly, to label all 'foreigners' as 'greedy' is just downright rude, to say nothing of blinkered, oh and utter nonsense to boot. Really??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I too try to ignore comments such as yours, but hey I'll make an exception Frankly, to label all 'foreigners' as 'greedy' is just downright rude, to say nothing of blinkered, oh and utter nonsense to boot. Really??? Well, you felt the need to completely ignore the point I made and respond to something else instead So we'll settle on that shall we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Can we stick to the topic in hand, rather than go off on a tangent regarding the morals or otherwise of any particular country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Just to close this unpleasantness caused by someone with dislexiya. If, I take 5 years and a lot of trouble to do some research I will make it available to who I damn well like.. For the record I have supplied drawings and information (free) to Czech companies before and they couldn't even be bothered to say thank you anywhere.. Nowhere did I accuse "all foreigners" of being greedy but I did refer to foreign companies who in my experience are. And who mentioned specific UK companies, I didn't. I gave one UK company certain drawings only last weekend. and I assisted another UK company only a couple of weeks ago but you don't need to know who they are. John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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