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1/72nd Westland Sea King HC-4 by Dragon - is out!


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Some of them even ask for comments and suggestions on internet forums then ignore the comments and suggestions. :(

Indeed, I know of at least one occasion where assitance was asked for, and extensive info provided, which was then completely ignored!!

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The problem is that with certain notable exceptions* mainstream model manufacturers rarely go back and fix things.

1. Most of their market don't care

2. Of those that do, most will buy it anyway

3. It would probably cost tens of thousands of dollars/pounds/euro/renminbi/yen or more to change the mould or cut a new one for minimal extra sales.

If *I* were running the company, you'd be talking to the hand. Understand that they are running a *business* not a charity

Shane

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Is it me, or have they got the main rotor blades on upside down??........ :unsure: .....Smudge..

Looking at the instructions they have options to have the droop down or folded for on the ground and turned up for in flight which is something new.

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They have two sets of blades - one bowed up for in-flight, one down for parked. The test-builder may have just used the wrong set of blades...

Looks promising, but I'll have to compare it in the flesh to a Revell Sea King. <_<

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That's all very well, but they don't provide any crew figures! Who's flying the aircraft - ghosts???

I'm sure someone will say that you can buy crew figures (can you buy helicopter flight crew?), but that's not the point - if Dragon are offering an in-flight option, shouldn't they provide them?

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That's all very well, but they don't provide any crew figures! Who's flying the aircraft - ghosts???

I'm sure someone will say that you can buy crew figures (can you buy helicopter flight crew?), but that's not the point - if Dragon are offering an in-flight option, shouldn't they provide them?

Do you know Paul?, that's just what I was thinking, seems a bit of a stupid idea if you ask me................Smudge

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  • 3 weeks later...

Wow...

The paint guide lists the aircraft as it was seen in 1945!

No wonder Japan lost the war... knowing that the RAF was bringing in troops via these MK.4's, I'd have surrendered too! (and everyone thought it was because of the A bomb...) :lol:

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Mine arrived the other day, if you guys would like I could try to take some sprue shots on thursday?

It looks nice in the box, but as others have mentioned the nose does look off. Too really make this kit stand out dragon should have provided some crew figures and if they wanted to make it really special some falklands era royal marines debussing.

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Indeed, I know of at least one occasion where assistance was asked for, and extensive info provided, which was then completely ignored!!

What? Just one? It's happened to me several times! Still, it keeps forums ticking over and the aftermarket business alive....

It seems Cybermodeller/Dragon are just unable to get anything completely right.... however, they aren't the only ones and at least they are trying.

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Still cheaper than an Airwaves set on Ebay!!!! In all seriousness, I won't be buying one to build as it has too many errors. If I can find one cheap, I'll buy it and cross kit it with the far superior Revell kit.

The major errors I can see are,

7. Aerials(?) either side of cockpit. Never seen anything like that in any pictures I have seen of any HC4s....

Mark.

A fairly recent addition, certainly not appropriate for the Falklands era:

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A fairly recent addition, certainly not appropriate for the Falklands era:

That pics makes me think Dragon's research team need a good kick up the backside! Several bits of the kit seem like a cross between early and late cabs and overall their research seems somewhat sloppy. I would certainly expect a better level of accuracy for my £34.99....

Mark.

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The kit from what I have seems a waste of money due to poor research and shape issues. My advice is to buy the excellent Revell kit and wait for conversion set that will be coming soon.

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As mentioned above it isn't too difficult to get it right, when you consider they could have copied the basic shape of either the Hasegawa or the Revell kits. From there it wouldn't have been a giant leap to the Commando. If they had asked Westlands, I'm sure there would have been some help offerd.

Look at what Airfix have produced in the Lynx for less that 30 Quid then the Commando is way overpriced!

I have a number of the C Scale conversion, I sent my Commando kit to Whirlybits, looks like you missed an opportunity Roger!

Colin on the Africa Station

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The kit from what I have seems a waste of money due to poor research and shape issues. My advice is to buy the excellent Revell kit and wait for conversion set that will be coming soon.

Is that a definite.....?

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Is that a definite.....?

I have a set that I am mastering now but it not top of my list of things to do, however if there is enough intrest I will move it up the list.

I am an engineer on the Seaking HC.4 and so I have first hand access to them daily so I can get the set spot on. There will be 3 versions 1980s,1990s and 2010s so a whole fleet of Junglies can be built.

Matt

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I have a set that I am mastering now but it not top of my list of things to do, however if there is enough intrest I will move it up the list.

Ooh... yes please! :bounce: And how about a rotor head for a folded blade option?

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Ooh... yes please! :bounce: And how about a rotor head for a folded blade option?

I have thought about it but I will need time to deal with that as it will require alot of work as it requires a totally new rotor head and blades.

However I feel another thread is needed for this as I don't wish to hijack this thread.

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I have a set that I am mastering now but it not top of my list of things to do, however if there is enough intrest I will move it up the list.

Matt,

Move it up the list! I'll buy a couple off you as soon as they're ready!

Mark.

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It seems Cybermodeller/Dragon are just unable to get anything completely right.... however, they aren't the only ones and at least they are trying.

Evidence? Sea Vixen: fail, Sea Venom: fail, squared, Sea King HC.4: fail, apparently. Agree with Harry Lime re Dragon research team and boot up backside.

But the Meteor III is very nice, I grant you.

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I have a set that I am mastering now but it not top of my list of things to do, however if there is enough intrest I will move it up the list.

I am an engineer on the Seaking HC.4 and so I have first hand access to them daily so I can get the set spot on. There will be 3 versions 1980s,1990s and 2010s so a whole fleet of Junglies can be built.

Matt

I agree with the others Matt - I'd definitely take some of those!

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It would appear we're not out of the mire just yet, another thread on the previous page points to a 'Bagger' version. So it looks like another box of the same old, same old.

Let us call on St George the slayer of Dragons.

Colin on the Africa Station

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