Giorgio N Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Aeromaster/Polyscale were also excellent paints for TPS, they seemed to get the tones exactly right. Do you have matches for these brands ? If so I'll update the list ! Good to hear about the Lifecolor 35237, will add this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon 106 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Giorgio, FS-36320-Aeromaster 1054 / Polly scale-F505374 FS-35237-Aeromaster 1058. Never had this in Polly scale. LGG/FS36375-I haven't got any of these left, which caused a bit of a panic before I found Lifecolour! Sorry it's not a complete list, I'm pretty sure you can't get these now. Would love to be wrong though. Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhaith Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 For the prep of my build i made up a spreadsheet and trolled the net for gunze equivalents (building a hasegawa) i'm not sure if my research is 100% accurate but i'll post details when i get home. It's geared toward vallejo paints, though if memory serves i think there's a few tamiya colours as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 at my mode4l club some time ago, somebody came to do a talk with slide show on USN Carriers...] the only consistent thing about the aircraft was the inconsistency of paint colour most pics were taken at sea, with almost all aircraft showing heavy weathering and patchy paintwork where it had been touched up during the time at sea so you could probably get away with a non-standard colour quite easily if modelling a weathered in-service aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 cheers gypsy - keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Any chance of adding the ordinance colours to this list?? I'm trying to work out it the misslies for an all over FS36440 Car are grey with white heads or white with grey heads, Fujimi instructions show later, BUT that's for a Grey over white cat!! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Any chance of adding the ordinance colours to this list?? I'm trying to work out it the misslies for an all over FS36440 Car are grey with white heads or white with grey heads, Fujimi instructions show later, BUT that's for a Grey over white cat!!Phil Ordnance colours are on my to-do list ! In the meantime I can tell you that depends on the version of the missile: for example sidewinders before the AIM-9L had white bodies, the L and later had grey FS 36375 bodies. The Sparrows and Phoenix went through similar variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thanks Giorgio that answers that question! This threads going to be a gold mine by the end! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Some info on ordnance added, starting with the AA weapons first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Xtracolor's rendition of FS15237 is not very good in my experience. This is the lighter of the two greys on the top surface of Chilean F-16s, and the tin I used did not match my perception of what the colour should be, neither did it match the FS 595 fan deck - it was too light and green. Xtracrylics are made by a different manufacturer, and may be better, although I haven't got any experience with that colour. Don't forget White Ensign Models' Colourcoats range (enamels) - my limited experience with them is that their paints are quite accurate, and they are a pleasure to use. They don't have FS25237 (all their paints are semi-gloss) unfortunately, but they have other relevant colours in the range: Light Gull Grey - 26440 - AC US 01 Dark Gull Grey - 26231 - AC US 02 Light Ghost Grey - 26375 - AC US 03 Dark Ghost Grey - 26320 - AC US 04 Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandwagon 106 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Early Tomcats carried AIM-9G/H and these were white bodies and rear fins and dark metallic front fins and seeker heads. These had larger fins than the AIM-9B and E, but smaller than the later models. They were only used for a few years before the 9 Lima took over, but were carried during Frequent Wind in 1975 by VF-1 and 2. Joel Edited January 9, 2012 by Bandwagon 106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Boy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Does anyone have any photos of the VF-213 Black Lions jet featured in the new Revell 1:48 F-14D kit that shows it with the yellow test symbols on the Lantirn pylon? http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5527.shtml The aircraft is NH100 Bureau Number 164348. I am sure I have seen something at some point but no matter what searched I do, nothing comes up. Even on airliners.net and airfighters.com, the jet comes up but it either has different mobex numbers, with a different squadron or doesn't have any weapon pylons at all. Hope someone has something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 To all the pilots: all the technical info on the Tomcat has been moved to this single thread. For any question continue to use this thread. The colours section will continue to be updated here too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Colour post updated with info on the A-G weapons and the Lantirn pod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNoAF Aerobatic Team Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Giorgio... Great work. Is there any chance of getting Tamiya paint in there aswell? Or would you recommend Humbrol? As those are the two paints I can choose from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Giorgio...Great work. Is there any chance of getting Tamiya paint in there aswell? Or would you recommend Humbrol? As those are the two paints I can choose from... I'm not sure about any good tamiya match, I'll try and find some and hope to have some tamiya paints listed before you're at the painting stage ! Humbrol paints are good matches IMHO, if you can find these at least you have an option. Still, I know many people like Tamiya paints and are not happy with enamels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I would also very much appreciate any information you can provide for the Tamiya acrylic range as in my neck of the woods they are the only decent acrylics I can get my hands on so i'm pretty much comitted to them in a big way. Armitage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Hi mates, Excellent reference material from Giorgio! Quite a bit of work that. With respect to the Light Gull Gray used on the early Tomcats, I have always used a flat paint, i.e. FS36440 (the 3 denoting flat). I just think it looks better on the model, and I've built a ton of USN jets (not that that means anything). But I can tell you from my days when I used to visit the Grumman Calverton facility on Long Island back in the late 70s, new F-14s were painted in glossy Light Gull Gray, or FS16440 (the 1 denoting glossy). Those babies reflected the lights in the final assembly area like a shiny new car. On the cover of the Hasegawa 1:72 F-14D 'VF-31 Last Tomcat" is a photo of the plane painted in the special livery for the last flight (even though it did not actually make the last flight). It's in the original Light Gull Gray over white scheme, and it's very obviously glossy. It was only when they switched to the flat, low-visibility grays that the severe weathering starts to be noticed on birds that have been to sea. You know, that patchy effect we all strive to achieve on our F-18 models. The old glossy Gull Gray scheme held up very well at sea. After a while, the sheen was reduced (just like on my car since I never wash or wax it!). By the way, Gunze makes a semigloss Light Gull Gray (FS26440) - it's H325. Cheers, Bill PS. Sorry for all of the incorrect spellings of "grey" - I was following US convention! Edited January 13, 2012 by Navy Bird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think US convention is allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I would also very much appreciate any information you can provide for the Tamiya acrylic range as in my neck of the woods they are the only decent acrylics I can get my hands on so i'm pretty much comitted to them in a big way.Armitage The following link is to IPMS Stockhom, and their chart that shows the closest Humbrol and FS matches to Tamiya Acrylic paints. I don't use Tamiya paints, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this chart. Tamiya Equivalents Hope this helps! Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Great idea this Giorgio - very helpful!If anyone also had colour matches for Revell Aqua Colour Acrylics too (without mixing them like Revell suggest), would be great. Many thanks in advance... Dermot Hi Dermot, This chart from IPMS Stockhom lists the Humbrol equivalents to the Revell colours. I don't use either of these paints (not easy to find in the US if at all) so I can't vouch for the accuracy. Unfortunately there are no FS equivalents here, but you should be able to go from Revell to Humbrol and then to FS. Revell - Humbrol Conversion Chart This chart converts Revell paints to RAL numbers and Testors equivalents: Revell - Testors Conversion Chart Hope these help! Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The following link is to IPMS Stockhom, and their chart that shows the closest Humbrol and FS matches to Tamiya Acrylic paints. I don't use Tamiya paints, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this chart.Tamiya Equivalents Hope this helps! Cheers, Bill Thank you for that link Bill, I appreciate the help. It's a start in my quest to find the right colours amongst the 150 bottles of Tamiya acrylic I have! Armitage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Enrique Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Giorgo, Thanks for the date. The are very usefull.... Can I into the GB? I wish to make a Hasegawa F-14A, may be in Iranian colours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) There a great F-14 photo/research thread on this Forum. F-14 Tomcats (not all photo work because of the age of the thread but still some great shots) This is also a great photo album of the big cat, many of the later schemes are shown. F-14 Gallery Enjoy! Shaun. Edited January 14, 2012 by Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Giorgo,Thanks for the date. The are very usefull.... Can I into the GB? I wish to make a Hasegawa F-14A, may be in Iranian colours.... Of course, you are welcome to the GB ! Looking forward to see your model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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