LuisB Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hi! I am doing Vale´s aircraft on Greece, V7795. Hasegawa calls for Dark Earth, Dark Green and Azure Blue undersurfaces. Maybe Azure is too early for 1941? I am thinking of using Sky S instead Looking forward on your opinion Thanks in advance Luis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFO98 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 (edited) Hi Luis will check my sources but could be a little while no doubt some one will confirm before i get back but i have found reference to oct 1941 with azure blue trying to find out when the change occured according to combat colours no2 there is some uncertainty about the introduction of azure blue- In 1940 blenheims were shipped out with sky u/sides but middle east command considered this " to be too light and too green for the region" Middle east command mixed it's own colour of blue and asked air ministry to apply the colour to subsequent deliveries RAE had developed a suitable hue by dec 1940 called azure. how quickly this became available is open to conjecture there was somethingin an old SAM article and a readers letter about greek hurris but they may have been mk11s -like the revell boxing hth Edited October 12, 2008 by walrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith in the uk Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Luis. According to the modelers Data file on the Hurricane the Middle East scheme of Dark Earth / Mid Stone / Azure Blue was introduced on 22nd Aug 1942 I think you might be correct about the Sky undersides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I'm under the impression that some Hurricanes Mk.IId had Sky undersurfaces with Mid Stone/Dark Earth uppers. If that's the case surely it's not inconceivable that earlier Hurricanes in the Med theatre would have had Sky undersurfaces too. As ever, awaiting correction. Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hi! I am doing Vale´s aircraft on Greece, V7795. Hasegawa calls for Dark Earth, Dark Green and Azure Blue undersurfaces. Maybe Azure is too early for 1941? I am thinking of using Sky S insteadLooking forward on your opinion Thanks in advance Luis Hi Luis - welcome aboard. I think the colour may well be Sky Blue - a shade a lot lighter than Azure blue, and developed by the RAE in 1939 , long before Azure blue was invented & introduced. Theres certainly some evidence for Malta based hurricanes having this undersurface colour. HTH Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisB Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Thanks to all, for your responses.. if anyone has any info, please dont hesitate on comment Looking forward to contribute on this great site, first time to register but following it long time ago Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Eisenman Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Lets get back to basics. It is the Hasegawa instruction that give the Azure color call-out. I'd be suspicious as it would be quite unusual for a Temperate Land Scheme (DG/DE) to have had the underside in Azure. While Azure was being applied to aircraft as early as first half of 1941, it would have been in connection with aircraft used in North africa and the Middle East and in connection with aircraft being repainted in Desert colors (or the mysterious tropical land Scheme). I'd like to find some other verification of such use of azure before I would accept hasegawa's instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 You certainly do not want the Humbrol interpretation of Azure Blue, which is too dark, closer to Mediterranean Light Blue or the prewar Azure (not the same colour as the wartime Azure Blue). I think we have to accept the ruling from ME HQ that Sky was not acceptable as being too light - but the wartime Sky Blue is lighter still. We are left with the prewar Sky Blue or the genuine lighter Azure Blue. I suspect the latter, possibly popularly mis-titled. Steve's comment is correct that the Temperate Land scheme is most often noted with Sky undersides, but this is because the majority of such descriptions are for temperate climates. I don't think that this should be regarded as any restriction on the use of other colours for overseas use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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