desmojen Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 These days I mostly use Tamiya flat base mixed into Klear, before that I used to use Xtracolour XDFF. Now I like both of these but I find the XDFF is maybe too flat (for my preference) and the Flat Base mixture sometimes tips the colour off too much. A case in point is my nearly finished Sea King HC4, the flat base made the colour look really wrong, but the XDFF is too dull. Answers on a postcard please............ Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg B Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Humbrol MattKote for me. These days I mostly use Tamiya flat base mixed into Klear, before that I used to use Xtracolour XDFF. Now I like both of these but I find the XDFF is maybe too flat (for my preference) and the Flat Base mixture sometimes tips the colour off too much. A case in point is my nearly finished Sea King HC4, the flat base made the colour look really wrong, but the XDFF is too dull.Answers on a postcard please............ Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notdoneyet Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnerdad Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Generally Xtracrylics flat, though often add a little gloss to sheen it up a bit, spray highly thinned, give a light rub with polishing cloth when dry (almost immediately), but not enough to show up carrier film. Always on the look out for new products though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmojen Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Very good I suppose adding some gloss to the XDFF is the obvious answer and I did do that with my last bottle. Since my near total switch to acrylics though, I don't have old tins of H22 kicking about to tip into it. I knew MattKote would rear its ugly head, but I flat out refuse to accept that anything Humbrol make is any good! So there! And I don't think we can get Polly Scale over here either Any more for any more? Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary C Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I knew MattKote would rear its ugly head, but I flat out refuse to accept that anything Humbrol make is any good! So there! Any more for any more? Jen. You're not gonna like the answer then .... it's the only matt I've found that will go over black without turning it grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Gunze Flat clear H20............................it is the best I have used. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_in_Fremont Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Generally Xtracrylics flat, though often add a little gloss to sheen it up a bit, spray highly thinned, give a light rub with polishing cloth when dry (almost immediately), but not enough to show up carrier film. Always on the look out for new products though. I second the vote for Xtracrylics! I use all three of their clear finishes (flat, semi and gloss) depending on the application. I use the gloss instead of Klear for decal prep. Not as hard of a finish but still effective and my results spraying Klear have always been hit-or-miss. Xtracrylix is so forgiving that even if I over-spray an area and it looks milky when wet, it clears right up as it dries. I've only found it in one place here in the US but I swear by it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFY21 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Just to annoy you Jen. Humbrol Mattcote is good, usually. I have had one duff bottle. Can you put it over acrylics though? Don't like Xtracrylics XDFF . Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Gunze "Mr Hobby- Top coat" ( Gunze reference B-501) comes in 88ml spray bombs and is almost foolproof in application ( Well I use it with no problems any way!) and the results are superb. Also comes in Gloss and Semi-gloss. Take two bottles into the mattcoat shower? not me- I just spray and go! Get yours from www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/ now! Troffa (in no way affiliated with Rainbow ten or GSi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Just to annoy you Jen.Humbrol Mattcote is good, usually. I have had one duff bottle. Can you put it over acrylics though? Yes. With no problems. Usually....!! (& it's not the putting it over acrylics that gives the problems, but the seemingly increasing frequency that bottles of it are duff) Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 there is only one! PollyS flat coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I've tried a few different acrylic flat coats, but my favorite remains tamiya flat mixed with klear (future). I keep a very flat mix in a dropper bottle and just at a little more klear to the paint cup if I want a more satin finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Humbrol Matt Cote does it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneheadff Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 there is only one! PollyS flat coat I heard...read that so often...but where can I get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousER99 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 M all time fave is Floquil Railroad colors flat coat with a touch of floquil dust paint in it. Deadest flat I have ever used. Very durable too. After that I have to say Gunze Flat laquer is my other fave. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_Buckles Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I heard...read that so often...but where can I get it? The USA is the only place... I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Another vote for Xtracrylix here, but make sure you've got the right airbrush - it clogs my Badger Anthem before the proverbial dropped hat has hit the floor, but works fine in the Iwata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Gunze "Mr Hobby- Top coat" ( Gunze reference B-501) comes in 88ml spray bombs and is almost foolproof in application ( Well I use it with no problems any way!) and the results are superb. Also comes in Gloss and Semi-gloss. Troffa (in no way affiliated with Rainbow ten or GSi) That'd be my second choice but No.1 is Gunze Mr. Super Clear U.V. cut (B523-800) comes in a large rattle can, dunno why but this stuff is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used. It doesn't change any of the delicate tonal values like pastels and washes that I've had other products do. One quick swipe and your model is flatter than the flattest flat you can imagine. Also very expensive and hard to come by but it's well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewe Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Take two bottles into the mattcoat shower? not me- I just spray and go! So that's what happened to your hair Mark. . you sprayed and it went? BTW you read "Apache Dawn" yet? A little bit OTT maybe, but a ripping yarn of the boys from 662 in Helmand last year. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalguru Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Vallejo- don't go out without it Jen. It's acrylic, and will give you a great matt finish, and it dries matter (?) than it sprays, unlike some things like Microscale amtt which always dries to a weird shine even if you put on 1/4 inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skii Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Vallejo- don't go out without it Jen.It's acrylic, and will give you a great matt finish, and it dries matter (?) than it sprays, unlike some things like Microscale amtt which always dries to a weird shine even if you put on 1/4 inch /\ what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm an Xtracylix fan.I use both their flat and satin coats through the brush,and i keep a bottle of gloss which i mix with the flat if i want a less matt finish.I find the gloss a bit too shiny in 1/72 but the satin coat is about right for most glossy finishes.A good range of topcoats all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Xtracrylix and Vallejo Model Air Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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