Jazzy Jase Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 What is the best BF 110 in 1/72 and does anyone know anything about the new Revell kit? http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV4341 Are there any decent JU88 kits in 1/72? I've got an Italeri one, but I don't like the raised panel lines. I'm guessing the Hasegawa kits are the best HE-111's? Is this Revell kit a re-boxing of the hasegawa? http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV4377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozkar Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 What is the best BF 110 in 1/72 and does anyone know anything about the new Revell kit?http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV4341 Are there any decent JU88 kits in 1/72? I've got an Italeri one, but I don't like the raised panel lines. I'm guessing the Hasegawa kits are the best HE-111's? Is this Revell kit a re-boxing of the hasegawa? http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV4377 Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Roberts Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) That 110 is the old Monogram mold going back to the 60's IIRC. The other couple of 110s in 72nd are the Fujimi C/D and the Italeri kits which go up to the G. It's been a LOOONG time since I did them but I think the Fujimi has all of the bells and whistles that the 48th kit has, fuel tanks, extended tails bomb racks etc to do nearly any C or D (and I think E) that was flown. I never built The Italeri ones as they came along after I had switched to 48ths. (cannot find a review of The 72nd Fujimi kit....) http://www.modelingmadness.com/reviews/axi...ft/cauth110.htm Hasegawa has just released in the last couple of years a Ju-88 that you may want to look around for reviews on. They have had A, C and D variants so far - I cannot recall if they have released a nightfighter G yet. http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis...gawa/00555p.htm http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis...u88apreview.htm Hasegawa (and the RoG rebox) is about 5 years old so pretty good by most standards. Italeri has a He-111 that still surfaces but I think it has raised panel lines as it is The same vintage as The 88/188 kits. Roden has a from what I read a nearly unbuildable kit of the early He-111 that came out less than 10 years ago. http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis...egawa/00789.htm http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis...e111preview.htm I give you credit for doing these, I am currently struggling with finishing up the canopy painting on my 48th Bf-110G2 and I cannot fathom painting the greenhouses for these aircraft in 72nd! Matt Edited August 12, 2008 by Matt Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jase Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thanks for the detailed information Matt. I'm not looking forward to the glass houses on them, but I will cheat somewhat and use Eduard masks! I've had a quick look on the net and it doesn't look like anyone has the Fujimi 110 in stock anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Italaeri is the best 110 in 1/72 but has a canopy problem - you need a Falcon canopy for one of them , I think the G because I had a spare Frog one. I know the kits will look better with Falcon canopies anyway, but it will also be the correctly-shaped canopy. The Hasegawa Ju 88 blows everything else away - I think that they do offer a G, but can't confirm from memory. All other kits have shape problems or the wrong radiator layout, usually both. Eduard did a good etched brass set. If you don't like raised panel lines then you want the Hasegawa He 111 also. If you don't like trenches for panel lines then try removing the raised panel lines from the (otherwise) perfectly acceptable Italeri kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Italaeri is the best 110 in 1/72 but has a canopy problem - you need a Falcon canopy for one of them , I think the G because I had a spare Frog one. I know the kits will look better with Falcon canopies anyway, but it will also be the correctly-shaped canopy. ...yep, the Italeri 'G' has the earlier 'C/D' canopy ...the other problem on the Italeri 110 (not mentioned in the usual reviews) is the gear - it just plugs into the bay whereas it should (ideally) be raked forward ..easy enough to remedy.. I've just finished one in fact ..(OWL decals) Edited August 12, 2008 by FalkeEins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousA667 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Fujimi 110 kits are very nice (if you can find them), but they do suffer a problem in having a very skinny rear fuselage. The Revellogram 110 re-pop is quite ancient, but you might find it worth a build despite the lack of interior detail. It otherwise shapes up quite nicely. peebeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 The old Monogram kit is reputedly narrow across the cockpit, as is the Fujimi kit. Not my own opinion, just what I recall from magazine articles over the past 30 years. I have one of the Fujimi kits in the loft. It's not one I'm desperate to get rid of, but I might be tempted by an interesting swap if someone really needs it. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 When Ray Rimmell wrote his Battle of Britain articles in Scale Models way back in 1979 and 1980, he used the Monogram (Revell) Bf110 as the most accurate at the time. Since then the only C/D that has arrived on the market is the Italeri kit. The "best" 1/72 '110 on the market at the moment though, is probably the High Planes "G" - there's a review here: http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/port...bf-110g4-r3.htm John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Jase Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Thanks everyone. Looks like I'm sorted with the Hasegawa 111 (probably go for the Revell re-boxing), and the Hasegawa 88. Have Revell re-boxed Hasegawa's 88? These two look incredibly similar on the box art: The 110 is a trickier one. Does the Italeri kit have raised panel lines? I don't mind trading some accuracy for nicely engraved panel lines and a better fit? Should I track down a Fujimi 110? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad's lad Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Interesting that Revell have gone for the Monogram 110 when they probably have access to the Matchbox moulds which I recall was one of their better kits albeit with an over thick (but clear) canopy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 When Ray Rimmell wrote his Battle of Britain articles in Scale Models way back in 1979 and 1980, he used the Monogram (Revell) Bf110 as the most accurate at the time. That takes me back. My first modelling magazine subscription was taken to get that Battle of Britain series. That's particularly where I remember the comments about the narrow fuselage on the Bf110 kits. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) That Revell Ju 88 kit is their very old one - avoid. Edited August 13, 2008 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Do not get the Revell Ju 88! It's their own tooling and dates back to the 1960s. The Hasegawa kit is the one to go for and I'm convinced that it's a downscaling of the Dragon 48th Ju 88 family. So with any luck we've a Ju 188 and possibly a Ju 388L-0 to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Re Ju 88 and He 111: if you dont hurt for the money - use the Hasegawa kits ! Italeri Ju 88's can be made into good representations with some work if you do not mind the small gear bays and other details. Maybe this might help you to decide: http://hyperscale.com/features/2004/ju88d2t1rb_1.htm finished Hasegawa examples - if you dont mind the German text see: http://www.ipms.at/index.php?option=com_co...82&Itemid=1 http://www.ipms.at/index.php?option=com_co...2&Itemid=44 good luck and good modeling popeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME453 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I'm building the Italeri Bf 110G4 at the moment, there are lots of after-market goodies for it to add detail, but you will need the Falcon canopy. It's not a bad kit, though it has raised panel lines and I'm having to do quite a lot of corrective work because the engine nacelles are not a very good fit. For such a ubiquitous aircraft that served in many roles throughout the war, I'm really surprised that there aren't more offerings from manufacturers. Regards Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I can think of six basic toolings: Airfix, Monogram(Revell now), Frog, Matchbox, Fujimi(x2) and Italeri(x2). It would seem to be an obvious subject for Revell Germany, but presumably they consider the Monogram tooling enough. The main Japanese companies haven't done it, but then they haven't done many WW2 twins until recently. It would now fit nicely into the Hasegawa range of German twins, but is it one of the Italeri kits Tamiya imports into Japan under their own label? Perhaps Academy might consider it, now they are branching out into twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I can think of six basic toolings: Airfix, Monogram(Revell now), Frog, Matchbox, Fujimi(x2) and Italeri(x2). It would seem to be an obvious subject for Revell Germany, but presumably they consider the Monogram tooling enough. The main Japanese companies haven't done it, but then they haven't done many WW2 twins until recently. It would now fit nicely into the Hasegawa range of German twins, but is it one of the Italeri kits Tamiya imports into Japan under their own label?Perhaps Academy might consider it, now they are branching out into twins. I was hoping that somebody like CMK or MPM might produce an accurate Bf110. When you look at their range they've got some really obscure planes, many, perhaps most, or which never left the drawing board! Regards Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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