Tornado triple build

[alrite]

Hi all

Two F3'S are planned, (1) using Hasegawa as a base with pieces from revell/italeri kits, (2) pretty much OOB revell kit.

Hopefully (1) will turn out like a late eighties F3, full loadout of 4 x sparrow, 4 sidewinder, 2x Hindenburg, rather like this: http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Pa...next_id=0571683

again, hopefully (2) will turn out like the 1990 display scheme bird, what an eye catcher! : http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Pa...next_id=0756751

So, this is my first WIP, but been modelling for a year so hopefully it will not be too bad.

First is the hasegawa F3, cockpit oob is pretty much false for the F3 so I got the Eduard set which is frankly brilliant, atl east it seems very accurate from the pics I,ve checked it with which are not too many lol. I also added scratch stuff from masking tape, plastic etc.. by copying some of the details from the aires IDS set, not too much to add but still it makes it look rather nice. Painted, as I dont have a decent airbrush as of now, with HU165, tried to get as even a surface as possible and it turned o.k, next is the detailing etc..

Got to warn you but my camera really aint brill on close ups, so I've tried as close as I can get without it being too blury which will/is a bit of annoyance caus it really won't catch the dails etc.., however when main construction is started, zoomed out a little, I think they will be of good enough quality.

Most of the panels laid out and painted, the masking is hiding a map of which panel is which,

views of the cockpit tub and back walls,

And here is the revell/italeri kit, quite a difference but with the plastic canopy on, pilots, aires seats it such just about hide it.

Need to do all the details on them both now.

For the hasegawa kit I have grafted the revell kit wings, and the locating lugs as they are so so much better shaped, the revell it will use the wings from an old italeri tornado, which are the same basically. (IDS strikefighter tool)

Naturally both kits will have swing wings, pylons and built up in flight mode. Now adding to the list, stands lol

Thats it for now but updates will be soon as I hope to get the cockpits done tomorrow, and maybe rescribed a bit of the wings.

Little note to MIKE for the help, cheers!

Edited August 7, 2008 by alrite

[rdxtnt]

Looks good so far alrite. Looking forward to seeing more of your progress

Gary

[alrite]

Right then, next round. Cockpits basically done, just the large consoles on the Hasegawa's F3 rear to do, but I'll do those when most of the airframe is assembled. I tried for the first time a technique for the screens which I saw over on ARC and it works a treat. It gives you different colours as you look at the pit from different angles, pretty cool!

General views, revells cockpit really looks quite daft tbh lol

screen effect

revell's,

Got some more for later

[Windy]

Looks great so far fella. I tried using a Eduard color set on one of my Hasegawa Tornados but I could never get it to fit, looks like it was my skills to blame and not the set.

[alrite]

The later pics...

maybe there is a size difference between colour/normal etch? who knows lol But the pit consoles themselves need a good trimming and repeated test fits.

The vertical fin on the Hasegawa is not as well shaped as the revell, but a little sanding around the top should sort that out.

"Borrowed" pylons from ROG tornados, then cut to the right diameter stubs to fit tightly into the Revell/italeri wings allowing them to turn very nicely really but not fall out.

Flightpath missiles, seams sanded and ready for about a million fins to be added, not much in the winders but the sky flash missiles are brilliant.

Undercarridge doors added, Hasegawa's are click fit basically, revells will nead some filler.

Just trying to decide which ejection seats to use for the Hasegawa F3. The aires seats look over scale, yet the flightpath ones look under when installed in the cockpit, quite a size difference. Bearing in mind Im gonna add pilots, they wont have any legs with the aires so I'm leaning towards the flightpath with a little height boost underneath with plastic. But thats for later anyways.

Thats all till next time.

[alrite]

Can I ask if anyone has any links to a website showing the Hasegawa's F3 construction guide, mine have been misplaced by my parents lol

[hatchet]

Can I ask if anyone has any links to a website showing the Hasegawa's F3 construction guide, mine have been misplaced by my parents lol

Here you go

[alrite]

cheers m8, I was going to have ago without, then I saw the intake pieces which told me otherwise lol.

[alrite]

Today, closed the Hasegawa F3 front fuselage, that was not easy! Had to add filler to most of the seams as it was a tight yet loose fit tbh, but its all polished and fine now. Sanded the tail, contemplating adding rivits with my new trump rivter, but I'll have to do the whole plane really so I not sure yet.

Began the flightpath missiles and with each AIM-9 being made up of 13 parts, I'm pacing myself to one a day, we wouldn't want to over exert ourselves now would we.

Now introducing tornado number 3, a bit of a refurbishment on a revell IDS. Plan is to make it into the first MRCA, P-01, aircraft in its beautiful white and red finish.

And the final tornado that I was working on until I heard DRpepperresin is making a new nose cone, as Revell's is pretty woeful in shape. Will be a GAF IDS armed with taurus from a ROG typhoon kit. I'm not building this now, just showing you some of my other projects, hopefully the resin noses will be ready soon so I can continue with this beast.

Taurus,

BTW, what do you guys think of the background colour to which I'm taking the pictures, I think it crap tbh, any suggestions on what to use/improve

[hatchet]

Careful with P.01, the tailplane leading edges didn't have the kink that the production models have! I think it was introduced around P.08. There was also a change to the tail- Fin fillet above the engines. Also didn't have any guns, but from your picture it looks like the holes for them were there.

I think the background works quite well actually.

Edited July 24, 2008 by hatchet

[alrite]

Careful with P.01, the tailplane leading edges didn't have the kink that the production models have! I think it was introduced around P.08. There was also a change to the tail- Fin fillet above the engines. Also didn't have any guns, but from your picture it looks like the holes for them were there.

I think the background works quite well actually.

Do you know what the cockpit was like, whether the navigators displays and dials were installed or not. I've got a good book at the moment, going in quite a deal of depth showing the initial roll out but does not show the cockpit. From some of the pictures it looks all there, but whether the displays were "on" on the first flight or not im lost.

cheers, willi

Edited July 24, 2008 by alrite

[hatchet]

Do you know what the cockpit was like, whether the navigators displays and dials were installed or not. I've got a good book at the moment, going in quite a deal of depth showing the initial roll out but does not show the cockpit. From some of the pictures it looks all there, but whether the displays were "on" on the first flight or not im lost.

cheers, willi

Dunno, but it did fly with two pilots.

[alrite]

On with the next update

Not loads done that can be seen by the eye really, 3 builds at one seems to have a negative effect really on any timescales when you try to keep each build even stevens with each other. Except Baded, hes a machine lol. I have just been filling/sanding loadsa things lol.

First up is flightpath vs Hase skyflash, flightpath much, much better with cable ducts, engravings and all.

Intakes for the Revell F3 and Revell p-01 prototype assembelled. Now, kindly pointed out by a chap over in the modern forum, I've got a small problem in that for the P-01 MRCA the rear of the intake is flush with the fuselage and wing roots, unlike production examples which has a small slit/gap. I think I've got a good method to do it but any suggestions will be good.

Some pics to show what I mean.

Gap in Production tornado.

None in P-01 MRCA.

I'll post the results of my efforts on this next time.

General pic of the revell F3. Any antenni were cut off in aid of the decal application. Will need quite alot of putty for the fuselage joint and some other areas. After that its nearly done.

A few views of the lower tail replacement on the MRCA P-01. Needs to be faired in with miliput, but I think the shape is just about there.

Few pictures of the rescribing going into the donor revell f3 wings to the hasegawa kit. The panels were initially engraved, but extremely finely. One swipe of a sanding stick nearly made them dissapear, so I've rescribed and added a few rivits. Just need to clean up a few misakes etc.. then I can finally close the hasegawa rear fuselage.

Top wing.

Bottom wing

And finally a pic of the decals going on the revell F3.

P.S how are the pictures, any points/comments will be gladly recieved and acted upon.

Right, how do you add a new page, thought it would do it automatically.

[hatchet]

Looking good

Right, how do you add a new page, thought it would do it automatically.

It will, 20 posts per page.

[alrite]

Alls good except the skyflash fins are the bloomin wrong way around lol! Whoops.

at least I've only made one :shithappens:

[alrite]

Bad news with the revell F3, scraping it and a replacement kit is soon on its way. I messed up with assuming the wing sweep mechanism for the old italeri IDS version (the revell f3 wing donor) is the same as the italeri F3. And I was wrong lol as the wings were swept at different angles when they were meant to be the same. Since I've closed the fuselage halfs there is no way to correct it so on the shelf it goes for a latter date. Anyways,

Pilots plus seats. In this order: Hase F3 with flightpath seats, Revell F3 with aires (soon to be anyways) and P-01 with airwaves seats. All of exceptional quality but for overall best its the flightpath I rek, correct size compared to the aires and alot of detail that my camera won't really bring out.

Main flightsuit paint coat on, obviously the orange for the P-01, green for the Hase, and a dark blue/black for the F3 demo team. On with the deatils on these.

Constructed the P-01 straight tailplanes, not a huge difference when viewed afar but on closer inspection there is a noticcle difference. Need to deepen the rivets though.

Before:

After with normal tailplane comparison.

Last, tail fairing on P-01 done. It was a to do with numerous fillings/sandings but I think I've got the shape and sharpness of the taper right. ( actually you lot are the judge of that lol).

cheers for any comments, will.

[Oliver]

Wow! Lovely work on the mods for the P-01.

[alrite]

SkyFlash and sidewinders done. Hasegawa makes these in 8 parts, flightpath in 84 It was o.k I suppose lol but they should look very nice in the end.

Started cutting down the intakes. Basically removing a top slice, sanding the top to the right height then replacing it with styrene and fairing in. Need to get some styrene from the LHS yet.

[Col.]

That's looking good fella, just read your thread through from the start and will be watching for your updates from now on

What plans have you got to produce the scheme on P-01? I'm sure there was a kit decal sheet with relevent markings around at one time but don't recall which one.

[alrite]

That's looking good fella, just read your thread through from the start and will be watching for your updates from now on

What plans have you got to produce the scheme on P-01? I'm sure there was a kit decal sheet with relevent markings around at one time but don't recall which one.

Yep I'm trying to seek out the early revell/italeri MRCA kit with the p-01 decals in it. I think they are the only decals made for the plane in 1/72 and I have currently got a promising lead on ARC atm.

Hope I can get them otherwise I'm screwed lol.

[Col.]

Yep I'm trying to seek out the early revell/italeri MRCA kit with the p-01 decals in it. I think they are the only decals made for the plane in 1/72 and I have currently got a promising lead on ARC atm.

Hope I can get them otherwise I'm screwed lol.

If that one falls through I may be able to help you there. The decal stash is in storage at the moment but I'm sure that sheet is part of it. If so, it's yours.

I'll try to check as soon as possible but it may take a while getting to it.

[alrite]

That would be awesome, the bloke on ARC is taking his time atm, but we'll see.

[alrite]

Col just realised I'm gonna need the kit anyways for the painting instructions and I've got that sorted now but cheers for the help.

At the moment still waiting for the revell F3, so all the attention has been spent on the other two. The hasegawa F3 is nearly ready to have some worthwhile pictures taken of it as the fuselage will soon be closed. The revell F3's wing donation was pretty troublesome to install on the hasegawa fuselage with the new locating lugs, correct line up, sweep angle etc.. but its all coming together now and dry fitted it sure does improve the look. P-01 is going swimmingly, the mods needed aren't to hard at all and should be the first one ready for paint, when I get my first ever compressor . Ive got a badger 200 at the moment, combined with the compressor it should do wonders with my airbrushing.

First pic shows the slice of styrene used, simply done as the contours in this region are straight.

Pic taken late at night of the peices on the intakes. The small slither of styrene down the sides is faired in also to maintain the correct height at the top of the intakes.

Installed. The right one (to us) is yet to faired in. Then just a few simple straight scribed lines on the tops should finish all the mods needed for p-01.

In progress seats, about 60 % done. Main colours added; wash, decals, wire details etc.. next. The two F3 seats were painted in a mix I made very close to medium sea grey and just medium grey to match the reference photos I saw, the P-01 seats which were very early were indeed painted in light grey. The airwaves instructions provide a good painting reference to use. The belts on the main seat were removed because of the pilots. I gotta say the aires seats take the cake now, the molding is just so clearly defined its brilliant, even if there designed for 1/72 scale gaints lol. Next pictures of the seats I'll take on a real sunny day to try and show all the nice details.

Pilots in progress; belts mostly done. I tried to vary the colours of the gloves and helmets to what I have seen and make them more interesting. I've got to make the black visors yet, I'm thinking of making them from dymo tape painted gloss black.

will.

Edited August 5, 2008 by alrite

[Col.]

Col just realised I'm gonna need the kit anyways for the painting instructions and I've got that sorted now but cheers for the help.

No worries Will, they are always an option if you need them.

[alrite]

Got the hasegawa fuselage joined today. Italeri F3 tailplanes masked in place to give the overall impression. Have you seen a more elegant looking plane!

Pic of the 4 sky flash test installed. Slots were cut in the fuselage for the rear two fins as they are not as recessed as the front two.Yet to be cleaned up though.

I'm still trying to decide whether it was worth all the hassle to install the revell/italeri F3 wings for future F3 builds, whens its all painted up I think we'll get the best views. Possiblity of a saudi F3 is really growing on me as I've managed to find some good decals. What would you guys prefer, late eighties RAF or saudi?

cheers, All for now.

Edited August 6, 2008 by alrite