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Potez 25 A2/B2 'Hispano' and 'Lorraine' (FR0037 and FR0038) 1:72 Azur Frrom The Potez 25 was a French single engined, two-seater biplane designed in the interwar period and used widely by air forces around the world. A flexible design, the Potez 25 was used in a variety of roles, including as a fighter, bomber escort, light bomber and reconnaissance platform. The A2 variant was primarily a reconnaissance aircraft, powered by either a 520hp Salmson 18Cmb radial engine, a Lorraine 12Eb inline engine or a Hispano Suiza 12Jb engine. The Potez 25 had a range of 373 miles and a maximum speed of 132 mph. Armed with 7.7mm machine guns, it was also capable of carrying 200kg of bombs. Curiously, the aircraft could quite easily be converted from biplane to parasol-winged monoplane and served with the Romanian Air Force in this configuration. In total, over 4,000 examples were built, including many under licence. The Potez 25 has not been brilliantly represented by kit manufacturers over the years. The last time I remember reviewing one was a fancy mixed media kit released by Grand Models around three or so years ago. Now Azur Frrom have stepped up to the plate with a modern, injection moulded kit of the type that offers both Hispano and Lorraine engined versions. Inside the box are five frames of grey plastic and a single clear frame, as well as photo etched parts and decals. The plastic parts are all nicely moulded and have plenty of fine detail. We'll take a look at the Hispano version first, before covering the differences with the Lorraine version. Construction starts with the well-detailed cockpit. This sub-assembly is made up of the floor detail, seats, instrument panels, control columns, rudder pedals and the podium and machine gun for the observer/gunner. The cockpit sidewalls are packed with detail too. Once complete, the cockpit detail is sandwiched between the fuselage halves and the underside of the fuselage, which is separately moulded. The engine cowling is next. The inner struts fit inside this structure and tiny holes must also be drilled in pre-marked points in order to accommodate the rigging. Once complete, the cowling/forward fuselage can be joined to the main section of the fuselage which, in turn, can be joined to the lower wing (or blanking piece if building one of the Romanian parasol-winged monoplane versions). The upper wing joins to the fuselage and lower wing via a system of struts. There are different struts for the monoplane version. No jig is provided to help with alignment, so this model may be better suited to experienced biplane builders. The landing gear uses a similar system of individual struts. The instructions recommend making pins from brass rod to strengthen these parts and you will need to source this yourself as none is supplied. The main wheels benefit from some photo etched detail to represent the spoked wheels. More photo etched parts are used to represent the elevator control parts and the locating points for the rigging. Finishing touches include auxiliary fuel tanks and four small bombs. A choice of three different propellers is included, with helpful notes to explain which belongs to which of the different aircraft represented on the decal sheet. Four decal options are provided, which is pretty generous for a kit of this size: Potez 25 B2, Royal Hellenic Air Force, coded Sigma 3, Athenes-Tatoï airfield, end of April or May 1941; Potez 25 A2, Royal Romanian Air Force, Little Entente and Poland Air Race (placed 6th if you're wondering), Prague, August 1928; Potez 25 A2, Royal Romanian Air Force (monoplane configuration), Little Entente and Poland Air Race (placed 4th), Prague, August 1928; and Potez 25, Yugoslav Army, Little Entente and Poland Air Race (not placed), Prague, August 1928. The decals are nicely printed and the colours look nice and bold. Potez 25 A2/B2 'Lorraine' This version of the kit is virtually identical to the Hispano-powered version, but obviously has different parts for the engine cowling and radiator, which is at the front of the cowling rather than underneath. There is also no parasol-winged version in this boxing. The decal options provided with this version are: Potez 25 A2 Nr 2054, White RF 22, Aéronautique militaire, Rochefort training unit, France, 1937; Potez 25 B2 Nr 42.216, White 6, 34 th Squadron, 3 nd Regiment, Polish Air Force. Aircaft built by P&L. Poznan, Poland, 1932; IAR-Potez 25 B2 Nr 211, Romanian Air Force. Aircraft built by IAR in Brasov probably in May 1934; and Potez 25 A2 in French Indochina, captured by the Japanese in March 1945, sent to Thailand when the Japanese forces surrendered. Don Muang (Thailand), Autumn 1945 Conclusion Three cheers for Azur Frrom for taking the initiative and producing an injection moulded model of this attractive and important interwar type. The kit is very nicely detailed indeed, although I have to say it probably isn't ideally suited to biplane virgins. That said, if you take your time and pay attention to the instructions, you should be rewarded with a really appealing model to which a huge variety of marking schemes can be applied. Recommended. Review sample courtesy of
Just a query and thread idea. These two aircraft are incredibly important in aviation history. I'm not sure which is more so, I suspect the Potez XXV (25). If you have arrived here, you will surely have a little interest in these aircraft? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_25 Four thousand built. Where are the injection moulded choices? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_25 Approx 2700 built, and look at that list of operators (for both aircraft). Where are the injection moulded choices? Well, I just wondered if I'm utterly alone in being bamboozled about this? Broplan offer a nice set of Vac-forms for the Potez. Available from around 5 distributors worldwide and yes, a vac-form biplane . Nicely made, but very challenging for many. People are paying up to £100 for the terribly stress inducing (oh so much so) 'Hit-Kit' incarnations of both aircraft. We can buy very expensive resin versions from Omega and (less *relatively* expensive but nation specific variants) from a manufacturer in Serbia. There's a vac form Breguet from Airmodel in Germany too. It's ok, but a bit 'Hasegawa egg kit' like. In fact, to be honest, no cigar. Much scratching required. Other kits have been released. I may have a Merlin aberration somewhere . To be honest, it is a little more honest in its outright dire, non-pretentious manner, than the utter mind twister that is the Hit-Kit. (Shhhh..). Purpose of thread: To discuss our modelling options and centralise resources to help each other. No one else is going to, trust me. I've written to AZ, Special Hobby and more and it just isn't happening. It's like this is a subject they keep fending off. Passing on the hot potato. One would imagine tooling up a Handly Froop Mingerman Autospline Mk. IV Floatgiro (b.1) , would be preferable and seemingly more profitable. . Here we, and maybe they, can discuss why these superb, varied, international subjects of great historical interest, seem to be treated with such strange detachment . Anyone interested in these two types please join in here with chat, discussion of theatres, record breakers and attempts, pictures, photos, plans, book recommendations in any language, anecdotes, histories, pictures of your builds and recollections of them, tips, whatever takes your fancy. It may prove to be I'm a sole enthusiast . I really hope not. All best regards TonyT Photos/postcard scans from my collection (purchased). T
Hi It is like that that Potez XXV and Breguet 19 are in a way coupled machines. From begining they were competiting and still if you think on one of them you immediately have to think on the second one. Since I am just about to finish construction of TWO Breguets out of a SINGLE Hit-kit kit I started to construct Potez XXV family. In my stash I have three of them: 1. Hit Kit Potez 25 TOE 2. Hit Kit Potez 25 Jupiter 3. Broplan Potez 25 A2 (Lorrain engine) However, I think that doing three Potez XXV could be a bit too much. Therfore I decided to to do: 1. Vichy from Indochina - P. XXV TOE (almost OOB if this term can be used in case of Hit-kit kit) 2. Spanish Republican P. XXV Jupiter - ex-Estonian (as above, however this paointing scheme is not included in box) 3. Scratch conversion to Potez 29 made with use of wings and some more parts from Broplan 25 A2. Here the painting scheme is from Marocco, 1943, but I have two others schemes in some French journal or booklet. Not decided yet which exactly I will do. There is a resin kit of this machine by Lift Here, but why not play with scratch a bit? The fuselage is winder and therfore the wingspand rised from 14.15m to 14.60m (in other sources 14.50 m) Therefore I have to cut the wing. The whole central part will be re-worked anyway... So As you see I started like playing 3NT in bridge. From the most difficult colour... Cheers J-W
Here's the box art from the future Grand models' 1/72nd Potez 25 A2 resin kit. Source: https://www.facebook.com/grandmodels.gr/photos/a.867064526735791.1073741828.801311263311118/894749783967265/?type=3&theater Manufaktura Modelarska is also working on a 1/72nd Potez 25 resin kit http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235004373-172-potez-25-a2b2jupiter-resin-kit-by-manufaktura-modelarska-mm-release-soon/ V.P.
Manufaktura Modelarska or MM (homepage, Facebook??) from Poland is to release very soon a 1/72nd Potez XXV A2/B2/Jupiter resin kit. This kit is reported to be in the last stage of development. Source: http://www.modelarstwo.koszalin.pl/sokol/modelarstwo.koszalin.pl/index.php/wystawy-mainmenu-36/31-wystawy/468-v-batycki-festiwal-modelarski-podsumowanie Grand Models is also working on a 1/72nd Potez 25 resin kit: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235000776-172-potez-25-a2-resin-kit-by-grand-models-box-art-coming-soon/ V.P.