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Hello a quick question anyone know if the Luftwaffe had their aircraft painted with a primer before the camouflage colors ? More Specifically Junkers aicraft ? Dennis

As previously hinted at in the Compucolor/DBI thread, here's my list of the Gloy standard and authentic ranges. I'm not sure if they're complete. I suspect that the railway range isn't, judging by the gaps in the numbers, but I think that the standard and aircraft ranges are. If that's the case, I'm surprised that there weren't any post-war colours. Maybe you know something I don't! My first Gloy Authentics were bought from Ren Models in Cambridge. This would have been in the early eighties, from their Mill Road shop. I think they may have been in Burleigh Street before that, but I would have been quite young (i.e. pre-teen) and maybe only went there once or twice. Anyway, I remember that they had a large, white, wire mesh basket near the entrance that was full of heavily-discounted Gloy paints and I bought as many as I could afford. I suspect that this was the stock being offloaded once the paints had been discontinued. I'm not sure why they stopped making them, but it seems that they were made for Gloy by Henkel, so maybe it was something to do with the latter. Over they following years I managed to acquire quite a few more, to the point where I have over 400 of them! I got lucky a few years ago when somebody nearby was selling a whole load of paints, mostly Gloy, and I got 298 tins and bottles for £16! Some colours have remained elusive, whilst others I have multiples of. If anyone else has some missing colours maybe we could do swapsies? Just a thought.... I thought it quite interesting that Compucolor used at least some of the Gloy standard range colours. I wonder if there was some kind of connection between the two. This is the sort of thing that keeps me awake at night! This is what I have so far. Again, if anyone can fill in the blanks, it would be much appreciated. I think it would be useful to have a reference for those who are interested in these long-gone paints. Standard range ST/G/1 Ivory ST/G/2 Pale Grey ST/G/3 Grey ST/G/4 Dark Grey ST/G/5 Bright Poppy Red ST/G/6 Scarlet ST/G/7 Crimson ST/G/8 Maroon ST/G/9 Orange ST/G/10 Yellow ST/G/11 Mustard ST/G/12 Biscuit ST/G/13 Stone ST/G/14 Buff ST/G/15 Purple ST/G/16 Cerise ST/G/17 Lime Green ST/G/18 Foliage Green ST/G/19 Dark Green ST/G/20 Tan ST/G/21 Service Brown ST/G/22 Light Blue ST/G/23 Mid Blue ST/G/24 French Blue ST/G/25 Dark Blue ST/G/26 Silver ST/G/27 Gun Metal ST/G/28 Gold ST/G/29 Brass ST/G/30 Copper ST/G/31 Bronze ST/G/32 Metallic Green ST/G/33 Metallic Red ST/G/34 Metallic Blue ST/G/35 Gloss Polyurethane ST/G/36 Matt Polyurethane ST/G/37 Gloss Black ST/G/38 Gloss White ST/M/39 Matt Black ST/M/40 Matt White ST/M/41 Light Grey ST/M/42 Slate ST/M/43 Field Grey ST/M/44 Dark Grey ST/M/45 Olive Drab ST/M/46 Scarlet ST/M/47 Apricot ST/M/48 Sand ST/M/49 Brick Red ST/M/50 Khaki ST/M/51 Ochre ST/M/52 Dark Green ST/M/53 Blue Green ST/M/54 Grass Green ST/M/55 Blue Grey ST/M/56 Cerulean Blue ST/M/57 Dark Blue Grey ST/M/58 Cobalt Blue ST/M/59 Midnight Blue ST/M/60 Ultramarine ST/M/61 Aluminium ST/M/62 Dark Earth ST/M/63 Matt Yellow Military Aircraft range A301 RAF Dark Green A302 RAF Dark Earth A303 RAF Sky A304 RAF Medium Sea Grey A305 RAF Dark Slate Grey A306 RAF Extra Dark Sea Grey A307 RAF Sky Grey A308 RAF Yellow A309 Photographic PRU Blue A310 Ocean Grey A311 RAF Azure Blue A312 RAF Middle Stone A313 RAF Ident Red (dull) A314 RAF Ident Blue (dull) A315 RAF Ident Red (bright) A316 RAF Ident Blue (bright) A317 RAF Grey Green (internal) A318 RAF NIVO A319 USAF Dark Olive Drab No. 41 A320 USAF Olive Drab ANA613 A321 USAF Medium Green ANA612 A322 USAF Neutral Gray No. 43 A323 USAF Light Gray A324 USAF Chromate Yellow (internal) A325 USN Light Gray (pre-war) ANA620 A326 USN Blue Gray ANA603 A327 USN Intermediate Blue ANA608 A328 USN Non Specular Sea Blue ANA607 A329 USN Semi Gloss Sea Blue ANA606 A330 USN Glossy Sea Blue ANA623 A331 USN Light Gull Gray ANA620 A332 USN Dark Gull Gray ANA621 A333 USAF Sand ANA616 A334 USAF Desert Drab ANA628 A335 USAF Azure Blue ANA609 A336 USAF Interior Green ANA611 A337 USAF Insignia Yellow ANA614 A338 USAF Insignia Red ANA619 A339 USAF Insignia Blue ANA605 A340 Luftwaffe RLM 70 Schwartzgrun A341 Luftwaffe RLM 71 Dunkelgrun A342 Luftwaffe RLM 65 Hellblau A343 Luftwaffe RLM 02 Grau A344 Luftwaffe RLM 72 Grun A345 Luftwaffe RLM 73 Grun A346 Luftwaffe RLM 74 Dunkelgrau A347 Luftwaffe RLM 75 Mittelgrau A348 Luftwaffe RLM 76 Hellgrau A349 Luftwaffe RLM 79a Sandbraun A350 Luftwaffe RLM 79 Sandgelb A351 Luftwaffe RLM 78 Himmelblau A352 Luftwaffe RLM 80 Olivgrun A353 Luftwaffe RLM 28 Weinrot A354 Luftwaffe RLM 04 Gelb A355 Luftwaffe RLM 62 Grun A356 Luftwaffe RLM 61 Dunkelbraun A357 Luftwaffe RLM 63 Hellgrau A358 Luftwaffe RLM 23 Rot A359 Luftwaffe RLM 25 Hellgrun A360 Luftwaffe RLM 24 Dunkelblau A361 Airframe White A362 Airframe Black A363 Duralumin Railway range R201 GWR Loco Green R202 GWR Coach Stock Cream R203 GWR Coach Stock Windsor Brown R204 GWR Freight Stock Grey R205 GWR Loco Indian Red R206 GWR Roof White R207 LMS Crimson Lake R208 LMS Maroon R209 LMS Freight Stock Grey R210 LMS Freight Stock Dark Grey R211 LMS Freight Stock Bauxite R212 LMS Loco Black R213 LNER Darlington Loco Green R214 LNER Doncaster Loco Green R215 LNER Coach Teak R216 LNER Freight Stock Grey R217 LNER Loco Garter Blue R218 LNER Freight Red Oxide R219 SR Dark Olive Green R220 SR Light Olive Green R221 SR Loco Malachite Gteen R222 SR Freight Stock Brown R223 SR Freight Stock Stone R224 SR Brake Van End Red R225 LNWR Chocolate Lake R226 LNWR Coach White R227 CR Deep Lake R228 CR Coach White R229 LNWR Loco Black R230 CR Loco Blue R231 BR Coach Cream R232 BR Coach Crimson 1950-57 R233 BRMU Stock Cream R234 BR Coach Crimson post 1957 R235 BR Rail Grey R236 BR Rail Blue R237 GER Loco Blue R238 Smoke Box Black R239 Buffer Beam Vermilion R240 Roof Grey R241 SECR Brunswick Green R242 Brilliant Lake R243 Signal Red R244 Signal Yellow R245 Black R246 White R247 Lining Orange R248 Lining Yellow R249 Copper R250 Brass R251 Polished Steel R252 Oily Steel R253 Unpainted Steel R254 Aluminium Alloy R255 Earth Road Red R256 Rail Colour R257 Sleeper Brown R258 Underframe Dirt R259 BR Frame Red-Brown R260 BR Rail Red R261 Lining Gold R262 Pullman Cream R263 Pullman Umber R264 Grey Etch Primer Cheers, Mark.

Hi guys. I have been asked by a friend to make a model of his Mini Cooper. As a base I will be using the Revell kit as it has the correct wheels, I would not know how to scratch those. I know that the interior will need a bit of work and his car has a sun roof, but I think I can manage that. However, my first hurdle is the colour. The vin plate shows the colour as 862/5 Indy Blue. Looking in my local car shop, and also online at Halfords, i can find no colour match in a spray. Generally I use acrylic paints. Has anyone got an idea for the best colour match? much appreciated.

Hello I dont know if this is the right place but, For the Kinetic Model Kits 1/48 F/A-18A/B/C/D Blue Angels 2017 Hornet, Where can I get FS 15050 Blue Angels Blue and FS 13655 Blue Angels yellow paint? And if not what is the most equal paint to those colours that deliver to Guernsey? Thanks Liam

Hi. I am brush painting humbrol satin paints and despite mixing them endlessly they always seem very grainy needing lots of coats. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

PANTHER-G Colors For Interior & Exterior AMMO of Mig Jiménez AMMO continue issuing new paint sets at a rate of knots, and are garnering some fans with the quality of the paint. Here AMMO have teamed up with Rye Field Models to produce a paint set for their new Panther-G which brings you all the colours you need for the Interior and exterior of the kit, including the metallics for the ammo, and washable white camo if you wish to use it. Of course these can be used on any Panther kit, and other WWII German vehicles. All paints come in the standard Ammo bottle, the yellow cap signifying there is a paint mixing ball in the bottle. The colours in the box are as follows: A.MIG-002 OLIVGRÜN OPT.2 RAL 6003, A.MIG-003 RESEDAGRÜN RAL 6011, A.MIG-011 DUNKELGELB AUS´44 DGI- RAL 7028, A.MIG-012 DUNKELGELB AUS´44 DG III-RAL 7028, A.MIG-014 ROTBRAUN RAL 8012, A.MIG-015 SCHOKOBRAUN RAL 8017, A.MIG-017 CREMEWEISS RAL 9001, A.MIG-197 BRASS A.MIG-024 WASHABLE WHITE CAMO, A.MIG-062 BLUE GREY, A.MIG-218 RLM 66 SCHWARTZGRAU, A.MIG-910 GREY HIGH LIGHT This set should be a welcome addition for the Panther AFV modeller, and an addition to anyone's range of colours. Highly recommended. Review sample courtesy of

Hey all. Bit of a dilemma. A while back I got the JGSDF LAV kit from Tamiya, which prompts you to paint the windows in clear blue. For some reason the Tamiya clear blue, when sprayed, would come out opaque on the clear parts, so after rubbing it off immediately I brush painted it, but I've never been happy with how blue it is, looking less like a tinting. It's been some time since I painted them (still haven't fully assembled the kit), but I'm wondering if there's anything I could do to remove the paint without sacrificing the clarity of the part, and if anyone knows why the clear blue went on opaque when sprayed (but not when brushed). I have access to Tamiya acrylic thinner and Ultimate Airbrush Thinner, if they could be used for removal. Thanks in advance. Gaz

British Engineering Standard Association (B.E.S.A.) 2D. 103, March 1922 “Air Ministry Nitro Dope Coverings and Identification Colours” In principle all the major paint formulations (PC 10 etc.) should be in there as well as the pigmentation. If possible do you have a copy of this standard or do you know where I could get a copy for research purposes? A scan would be great - send to mechinf(at)netactive.co.za

Hi, I'm looking for ral 5009 azure blue, do you have it in your range, i only know of lifecolour's alternative, thanks

Hey, so I have this problem with Revell colors. I've bought Revell enamel matt 37 for the surface to look, well, matt. But that isn't the case as you can see in the pictures. The red color appears glossy. Now, I've put a matt 69 besides it for comparison, so you can clearly see the difference. I don't know what is going on. Could this be a mistake by Revell or did I do something wrong? Model looks kinda ruined for me now, because everything should have matt finish (it's a Boba Fett Slave I by Revell by the way). Is there any way to safe it? I have some varnish... Also, the paint has been drying for more than 24h, that is important for you to know. So, what to do?

What's the general consensus on AK Interactive paints? Not the Real Color line but the dropper bottle ones. Do they behave exactly the same as the Mig Ammo, or are they slightly different? Reason I ask is I'm eyeing their woodland camouflage figure set, but don't want to spend that amount if they're going to be a bit dodgy. I've heard stories about the paints being lumpy or clogging, but this was from a few years ago. I once picked up a few Vallejo paints and they were horrendous. With the Mig Ammo paints I tend to put a few drops of Ultimate Thinners in the cup to improve the flow, and I would reason the same goes for AKI. I watched an official AK video showing their paints in action, but while they worked flawlessly, you do wondered how true it is given that its the company channel. Any clarity on the matter would be appreciated Cheers, Gaz

What is the true colour of Dark Green as applied to UK manufactured aircraft during WWII? For many years I've used Humbrol 30 and it is very close to US FS 595A Ref 34096. I got a copy of the Federal Standard paint chips back in the 1970s and it is kept in the dark. RAF Dark Green is a bluish green with no hint of brown. Recent tins of 30 are, when dry, almost exactly the same as 30 painted on to models back in the 1970s. Exploring airbrushing and acrylics purchased a number of Vallejo paints, covering WWII RAF colours. I was given a basic set of LifeColour paints. This week I tried both Life Colour 538 and Vallejo 71.016. Both claim to be RAF Dark Green, but once painted and dry are VERY different. The Vallejo seems to be more like 34096, a dark olive green colour with no blue hue at all and the Lifecolour is worse, a light earthy colour, more like 34027. What is the general experience of the colour accuracy of acrylic paints form the various makers? At the moment, based on one trial I'm very suspicious of all these acrylic paints..based on these two the temptation is to bin the lot!

I know that buying empty containers for paint etc can be rather absurdly expensive, but if you know anyone who uses an e-cigarette ask them if you can have their empty e-liquid bottles. Many of them are basically the same dropper style that Vallejo uses, making them great for paints that you airbrush with, they just need to be cleaned out well. The fancier ones are a little bottle with an eye dropper built into them, which I find are less useful but I use one of them for enamel thinner. I'm personally a vape... ist? And I have found many different uses for these things, so if you know anyone who does it could provide you with a gold mine of useful containers.

I’ve built this over the last couple of days. It has storage for 150 Vallejo paints as well as some other odds and ends. The shelves are angled back so help the paints remain in place. I’m thinking of making a few of them to sell, so have a look and give me your feedback. And this is what it looks like with my paints in place. Manynthanks for looking. Mark

I have a small problem which the other half might kill me for. 😟 I was working on a model and knocked pretty much all of a pot of humbrol black enamel paint on the cream living room carpet, resulting in a 3 inch stain... I got the most if it up with WD40 and some stain remover but she's still going to notice. 🙈 Anyone got any good tricks?? Pretty please! 🙄

Hi, I am about to start painting on my Airfix Jet Provost - scheme is White, Red, LAG. Airfix suggests H174 for the Red, indicating it to be BS537 in the instructions. I also have here Xtracolor X014 Red Arrows Red, also labeled BS537. Comparing the two, Xtracolor looks a little lighter and a bit more one the 'orange' side than H174. I am not sure which paint to use. Does anyone know which one is the better match? TIA Ingo

Hi, We've just received a restock from Mig.Ammo. There are a number of new products in with the general restocks. 20 new oil brusher colours, plus seven oilbrusher sets. Mig.ammo oilbrushers  - Sets & individual colours. Will hopefully have the 2 new RAF, muds and waters on the site tomorrow. Paul

Hello, I am new here. So I was assembling the revell 777-300er(zvezda repackaging), and I got the KLM decals from draw decals. My problem is, how do I paint the blue top of the plane, when I don't have spray paint, only paint brush, and I'd love if you guys helped me out. Thanks in adance!

I've just received my first set of Hataka red line paints. These paints are advertised as "optimised for airbrush" and the side of the bottle says "airbrush tested" The paints I received were a million miles away from being airbrush ready, they were thin-ish brush paints. After a short conversation with the UK stockist and with Hataka's facebook page, they have confirmed that none of their paints are airbrush-ready, they all need to be diluted. As far as I'm concerned this is, at best, misleading and at worst blatant and deliberate mis-selling. I'm very disappointed and I would advise Members to avoid the product.

There were 57 colours in BS 381 published in 1930 and exactly the same in BS 381C in October 1931. I am now trying to pin down exactly when the next eight colours (listed below) were added. Do you by any chance have any information about the dates of the amendments for each of these? I think they were all added before 1939 except 68 Traffic Yellow but the clues about that colour are not clear. 33 RAF Blue Grey 67 Traffic Green 68 Traffic Yellow 69 Traffic Blue 70 Traffic Red 71 Middle Graphite 72 Dark Graphite 73 Gulf Red Thank you in anticipation. William Marshall mechinf(at)netactive.co.za

Hi everyone, I'm John. I've looked on this site on and off for a couple years. Why? Well after about a 40 plus years gap, I've returned to make a few military models in 1/144 and 1/72, and as a surprise I got a 1/72 Spitfire (resin, based on a Boultbee Flight Academy Spitfire that flies in local over my garden quite often). After plastic modelling back in early seventies, I moved on to R/c planes then helicopters. That then got stopped as I started target shooting and after starting my apprenticeship got my Firearms certificate. So now 40 years later it's time to consider early retirement and get back to modelling. Something my wife has just promoted again with the Spitfire kit. Resin with metal parts it looks a challenge, and the biggest issue at the moment is what colours to paint inside and out etc. So, lots of site searching and probably lots of questions as well, so sympathy for you all as I ask questions that I probably shouldn't. Can't wait ( only excuse is time use, as I still work full time at the moment, but will force the model into it) . Thank you in advance

Hi all! Does everyone struggle like me to keep these tins sealed and the paint lasting until the very end without drying up? I am thinking about decanting in to "Wilkin" small jam jars. Has anyone out there tried this? If so, what is your experience? Thanks, Martin

I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in this but… A couple of years ago I noticed that colours/shades on the Tamiya lids and paint charts didn't match the actual paint. So I used strips of plastic card to spray each colour to get an accurate swatch. It was a long BORING job, but it was well worth, it as I refer to it on almost every build I do. Out of interest, yesterday I superimposed the colour shown on a Tamiya paint chart, with a scan of my colour swatch. Admittedly, my monitor is not colour calibrated, but the differences shown, match my experiences of matching the paint lids with the colour on the model. As you can see, the only exact matches are black, white and XF-12. Some are quite close, but the majority are well off. Does anyone know why this is the case?

Hi all! i need some advice based on your experiences. I have to say that Jens has been helpful but I am still paining over the first coat! i have my Super Sabre nearly ready for a green coat but I am still not sure what colours to use and I'd value your advice, thoughts, experiences. i use Humbrol enamels. I know that in the real world they were painted FS24079. However, almost every photo I've seen, and even my own from my early days, shows a blue-grey tone once the paint has faded. I have lightened Humbrol 116 but it goes a light yellowish-tinted colour. What advice do the collective have? thanks. Martin

Looking for a bit of guidance and tips on how best to mark of a nose cone requiring a different colour paint, particularly as in my Tornado, when the paint change doesn't follow panel lines! I tried using a rubber washer which when I finally managed to get it properly in place was OK, but didn't give the hard edge wanted. Tried to cut a circular hole in a piece of plasticard which was better, but again didn't get a hard enough edge as the nose isn't properly circular. Next was masking off the soft edge a bit to tidy up, but even with curve tape was far from satisfactory as ended up with a couple of kinks to the line edge. Pointers / hint gratefully received!