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Who among you has ever seen such camouflage in a Harvard?
Stanhauser posted a topic in Aircraft WWII
I wonder if anyone cares to explain this camouflage: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205209687 Thanks in advance- 43 replies
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Hello, I am now building HMAS Canberra in 1/700 as she appeared just before the time of her loss at Savo Island on August 8th, 1942, but I´ve got an aircraft-related question. She carried a Supermarine Walrus on her catapult at that time and I am trying to find out how this particular aircraft was camouflaged. Unfortunately, there are only a few photos of either Canberra or her sister ship Australia from that time period, neither of them giving a really clear view of the Walrus to be able to tell it´s colours. The regular RAF Temperate Sea Scheme (Extra Dark Slate Grey / Dark Slate Grey / Sky) seems to be an obvious guess but it would be great if anyone had a more sound opinion or even evidence. Thank you!
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Until I discovered how to paint Multicam, most of the modern U.S. figures have required me to paint them in the digital ACUPAT. This is, without doubt, the most difficult pattern I have ever tried to paint for a simple reason: colour. I once did Woodland MARPAT on four Marine figures and they turned out well because the colours worked, but ACUPAT is a nightmare for it. There doesn't seem to be any official colour palette for it beyond the original, which is way too dark. Most of the time when you see pics of it, its almost bright grey and all of myfigures so far have tended to be on the darker side (I would spray with Tamiya Buff, then striped it with Dark Grey, then paint on more Buff to represent the pattern). It somewhat creates the effect, but its still too dark. Even the ACU decals supplied with the Trumpeter Stryker Medical team seem incorrect, giving the whole thing a green tint. So I was somewhat pleased to discover this: I looked up the associated blog and discovered the colours mentioned are Vallejo. So I thought, great! I bought up the colours, did the listed mixes and...they don't match. They don't match the real thing or even the figure above. The colours are completely wrong, as are the specified mixes (not to mention the percentages aren't listed, which is a pain). In fact most of the mixes seem to have a base of Deck Tan over Khaki Grey, which just from a quick look at the bottle, tells me its not going to mix into anything like that shown. I must say I find this supremely irritating. Not only did I purchase the four colours particularly because of this (£10 to do so), but they seem to be incorrect with perhaps the exception of the Deck Tan, but even then its a closer match when used unmixed. In fact the only mix that looks like it might work as stated is for the boots. Can anyone shed light one what mixes would produce the results above? Being a stickler for as much accuracy as I can achieve with what's available, not getting the colours right really eats me up. Thanks, Gaz
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Hi, For my next project I just wondered if I could get peoples opinion on how best to paint up the alternative scheme on the Italeri 1/72 Jaguar GR1. The art work on the box is as follows: I presume I paint the standard Grey/Green pattern, mask off and spray the flat white, pretty obvious but the question I have is would you apply the decals before the white goes on as the artwork seems to indicate this would be the way to go. Is there anything I need to take into consideration if I do apply decals before the white coat is applied, and can anyone foresee any issues in doing it this way. i was thinking I should maybe apply a couple coats of Klear after decals and before the flat white, do you think this is advisable? Thanks in advance! Mark
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Hi everyone, I am building Revell's 1/72 Ju-88 A-4. The kit features a colorful bird (4D+DT) from the 9 Staffel of III/KG 30. The instructions suggest that the engine cowlings, rudder, and the elevators should be yellow, while lower wingtips and fuselage band should be white. I have tried to find some photos for this color scheme, but have come short thus far. So here is my question, can any of you confirm the overall yellow engine cowling and elevators? To me, this seems odd, but not unfeasible. Any help is appreciated. TIA Jan
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Hi, I have recently finished building my Revell 1/72 M60 tank and just wanted to start painting but i dont know how. Heres the problem: I wanted to paint it as a vehicle of Reforger 85` as it is depicted on the boxart (http://www.revell.de/fileadmin/import/images/bau/03140_%23BAU_M60_A3_2015.PDF first painting scheme; Boxart: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234987966-m60-a3-172-revell/) as I like the orange identification marks and i have a picture of it (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/M60A3_Panzer.jpg ) though in the instruction it is supposed to be a four-tone camo scheme (while it isn´t MERDC summer verdant (http://www.cybermodeler.com/armor/m60/m60_profile01.shtml) as the colors nor the scheme are matching, the boxart shows mostlikely a standart NATO three-tone camo and the original pictures isn`t much help either so: How should I paint it? Thank you in advance Levin
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I am about to start the Airfix Dornier 17, but have an old Frog one to make too. One Luftwaffe scheme is enough, but I fancied a Finnish one with the white overpaint. However, my references differ as to their basic scheme. Either they retained the Luftwaffe 70/71 splinter, or they were repainted into the Finnish olive green and black. I don't have a lot of photos of them without the white, but they would seem to be in a different pattern to the Luftwaffe which would suggest repainting. Views with the white has such contrast that it is difficult to make out anything about the underlying scheme. Can anyone either confirm that they retained the original colours before the white was added, or show me what the pattern was in the revised colours?
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A fun site, not really for experts but more for children, i think. Sorry for clogging this otherwise very accurate resources section! But i think it can be a nice read for a modeller who is stalling on a build for example. Here is: A beginner's WWII aircraft camouflage and markings guide. (there are a few mistakes however, sorry but i have no connection what-so-ever with the site so cannot change anything about it) http://www.fritzthefox.com/camo_guide.html Also, a funny speculative article about the F-35 versus the spitfire, the EE Lightning against the spitfire, and other dissimilar warfare ideas. http://www.fritzthefox.com/f35_vs_spitfire.html Or google "fritz the fox". Regards, Johnny.
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I have been working on this one on and off for a couple of months, using a part-built Revell Hurricane IIc which I bought and tidied-up, and decals from the venerable old Esci Hurricane/Kittyhawk sheet. Given a choice of three or four conflicting profiles and no photograph I could find, I decided to please myself and stick with the kit-supplied spinner, painted in the undersurface colour (for which I chose Azure Blue), use Middle stone for the base colour of the nose and wing leading edges, and then use Dark Green to supply the pseudo-Italian style squiggles and rings (hence "sand and spinach" from the colour or "Spaghetti" from the shape.) I replaced the broken-off aerial mast with one cut from sprue but other than that and the decals it is built straight out of the box. I'm fairly happy with it. Underside: Topside: Head-on: "In December 1941 the squadron moved to Egypt for defensive duties, before in June 1942 beginning to fly offensive sweeps over the Western Desert in support of the 8th Army. The most dramatic incident in this period came during the German retreat after El Alamein. On 13 November Nos.213 and 238 Squadrons were moved to a desert base 180 miles to the east of Agedabia, and well behind enemy lines. Over the next two days they destroyed or damaged nearly 300 enemy vehicles, before withdrawing on 16 November before the Germans could react." (Rickard, J (pending), No. 213 Squadron (RAF): Second World War, http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/213_wwII.html)- 19 replies
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I'm building one of the new Airfix AV-8As, and the camouflage pattern carries over to the underside of the wing. The wing leading edge is no trouble to mask, but the wingtip is. There is no convenient panel line to follow, and winging it freehand (sorry) is bound to end in tears. Then the flash of inspiration: Get some 8mm Tamiya tape and put it on the underside of the wing lined up with the outboard outrigger fairing on one edge- Leave some excess on the wing trailing edge. Trim the excess tape from the wingtip. Use the trailing edge excess as a tab to peel the tape off gently. Reapply the tape inboard of the edge of the wingtip, checking against the outrigger fairing to make sure it is straight. The masking follows the curve of the wing and has a regular spacing from the edge of the wing. Finish masking the rest of the wing and paint away. A useful tip, or stating the obvious? It works for me at least, and I hope it does for you too.
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Does anyone know what camouflage and markings were carried by the swordfish that attacked the Bismarck?
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Hello everybody, I just wonder why Japanese navy aircraft in the latter part of the war seem to have been painted green on the upper side. Most fighting took place over more or less tropical seas where the water appears rather blue. The camouflage schemes of the US Navy reflect that. By contrast in the North (or in higher latitudes) the colder, nutrient-rich water appears more greyish and greenish. That is where the Extra Dark Sea Grey and Dark Slate Grey of the FAA fit in well. Maybe the green on the IJN planes was due to the fact that hiding on the ground (on land) became of paramount importance once most Japanese carriers were sunk after 1942, but the planes still flew a lot of time over water. Any thoughts on this topic? Ole
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Hey All So *Spoiler Alert* I'm throwing together a what-if RCAF Mirage 2000, however, I can't rightly decide on what camouflage scheme to use. Seeing as how it was in competition against the F-18, using the CF-18 style low-viz camouflage would make sense, however, every real Mirage in the world has some sort of two/three tone scheme which makes me think that the CF-5 or CF-104 camouflage would look good. Any ideas? Regards ANS
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Hi all, I am considering building a B-25 Mitchell and would like to finish it as an aircraft that was based in either North Africa or the Mediterranean. Whilst looking through my references and trawling the internet I keep coming across profiles of aircraft which are painted in a disruptive upper surface camo of sand and green which I really like, the only problem is that I cannot find a single photograph to back any of these schemes up and I don't want to build something in a spurious scheme. I was wondering if any of you could either point me in the right direction or disprove these schemes once and for all, either way I will be happy as there are other schemes I could use. Thanks in advance. Craig.
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Hi, I am about to built a few King Tigers of s.SSPzAbt. 501 in 1/72 during their deployment to the Ardennes offensive and I am a bit confused regarding camouflage schemes, turret numbers, Zimmerit (or not) and so on. Does anyone know about a good site where I can get an overview? I found something here and there on the net but I would love to find something listing up tanks and their specifics. And by the way - did King Tigers have a standard factory camouflage pattern from some point on? INgo -
The arrival of the Airfix Mk.I lead me to haul out my Sword and AZ examples for comparison. Both give camouflage schemes. Are either (both or neither) of the kit schemes accurate? I gather these did vary, is there a good single reference source for Yugoslav Mk.Is? I have examples in a number of different books but am wary.
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I have seen so many Spitfire's, Hurricane's and other RAF aircraft models with soft edged camouflage patterns. Is this really correct? I can't remember that I've seen a single true RAF aircraft in real life with soft edged camouflage pattens. They all had hard edged camouflage. From the Gladiator to the Harrier. Or have I missed something? Best R. Andre
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In this post on roundel colours http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234964355-early-hurricane-roundels-bright-or-dull-redblue-roundels/page-2 Troy posted an interesting picture of two Hurricanes. The brown colour on the Hurricanes is noticeable lighter than the brown on the transport plane in the background. The brown on the transport aircraft looks like Dark Earth, but the brown on the Hurricane looks like Light Earth (compared to the colour chips in British Aviation Colours of WW2). And the same is the case with the green. Could these two Hurricanes been painted in Light Earth and Green normally used for biplanes? Hey, everything could be possible Cheers, Peter Some of the responses: If the picture would be of some French Spitfire Mk.IX in Vietnam from 1948, I would fully agree with your comment, but these two Hurricanes look newly delivered to me as I can't see any ware and tear on them. Maybe Troy knows more about the picture. But are the colours on the transport plane really too dark? Lets for now stick with the light earth and green possibility on the Hurricane. Here is a picture of the colour clips in "British Aviation Colours of WW2". I don't know how accurate these clips are, but it is all I have for a comparison. And here we have these colours overexposed on Troy's picture: This comparison is certainly not perfect and old colour images are far from reliable. But the fact is that on this picture there is a large difference in tone of the earth and green between the Hurricanes and transport aircraft - even more so as on the colour clips. I just can't see that the paint on the Hurricanes faded so evenly, also keeping in mind that two different paints are used on the Hurricane (for fabric and metal surfaces) and many period picture show that these paints fade differently - but not here. If these two Hurricanes are Gloster built, could it be that Gloster used up some old stock of Light Earth and Green they had left from Gladiator production? As a modeller, I think we do take colour accuracy sometimes too far as there is variation from batch to batch and from manufacturer to manufacturer, but I don't think it is this much as on above picture. Cheers, Peter -
Below please find a photograph of a Lancaster GR.3 I'm trying to reproduce. It's still some time before I get to the painting stage (I've got the wings on the fuselage, but the fuselage still needs some work - I know, I should have waited until the fuselage was done before attaching the wings, but I couldn't wait!). However, it's never too early to think about how I'm going to reproduce this wonderfully-filthy machine. I have my questions and comments added to this picture and I would definitely like anyone else's input regarding this. The overall scheme is simple - just the typical postwar maritime scheme of Medium Sea Grey over White. It's the dark areas that confuse me - exhaust stains, deliberately painted black, or the white overcoat worn away to show the black paint from the original Bomber Command scheme (I assume they just painted over that scheme, instead of stripping it off, then repainting it - those postwar years were somewhat austere). Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best Regards, Jason
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Got that new beautiful Airfix Gladiator, checked some available books (Warpaint, Mushroom Gladiator monography and "Desert Prelude", Kagero 112 squadron, other)... ...and I'm confused. I know that in the early period of 1940 desert fights Gladiators were in "normal" Dark Earth/Dark Green camouflage. But later? In Egypt/Lybia? In Sudan, East Africa? In SAAF? Mushroom in "Desert Prelude" for example even gives some strange colours I've never heard (light blue, some browns other than Dark/Light Earth)... What was the "desert camouflage" for Gladiator? Truly desert, I mean, not the DE/DG/Night/White?
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Was the Desert camouflage scheme applied to Halifaxes operating in the Western Desert? It is very difficult to tell from photos whether the scheme is just a faded version of standard RAF bomber scheme (black underside, Dark Green/Dark Earth uppers), or whether the Dark Green was overpainted in Sand. I gather the Wellingtons were given a desert scheme, but so far I have found no definative confirmation that the Halifaxes got the same treatment. Can someone please clarify this point. Juanita
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Hello all, A quick question for the more knowledgable amongst you if I may? My nephew Matthew has treated himself to a model of the USS Lexington in 1/700th scale. He is curious about the colour callouts and wanted to know how accurate the instructions are? Unfortunately I know very little about ships so can anyone help with this thorny issue please? Cheers.
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Hello friends! Here is my old tip! Please click on the images for a best view, thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MASKING EASILY SKIRTS OR SHURZEN: 1.- Scan the scheme of the armor and open it in your editor. 2.- Select the skirts / Shürzen only and crop the selection. 3.- Save the image in JPG or JEPG. 4.- Import the image in your Corel Draw - (I am using my old Corel 9). 5.- Adjust the real size of the plastic piece to the design and print it. 6.- Ready the design for to working. 7.- I used Tracing Paper 50/55g.and cutter for green color. 8.- I used Tracing Paper 50/55g. and cutter for brown color. 9.- After of airbrushing the Skirts / Schürzen are ready for weathering!. (You can use a similiar programs too) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Regards! Rodolfo
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My next project will be the Tamiya's Il-2 in 48th scale. I will build my kit oob but i have a doubt for the camo: can some one suggest me the best paint in Gunze's range for the three-tone camo in tan. green and dark grey??? And for the interiors? Could be right te RLM-o2 grey?? ciao Ale
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Ok people a while ago I got this kit and wanted to build it not black as the manbual says but in a camo, it was in my head since I saw a topic here a 1/72 scale in an operational camo so I wanted to do it. From the advices I got here, from the PAK-FA manual of Revell etc I first tried a quick photoshopping to see how it would look and It didn't seem bad so I decided to go for it, not exactly as the photo but still not bad. I'm still not decided if I should add missiles too also but I'll figure it out sometime, here we go: Thanks for looking Regards
