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  1. My wife bought this somewhat vintage injection moulded plastic Revell 1:225 scale HMS Victory kit for me at Christmas about ten years ago. Scalemates have the 1st iteration of this kit dated at 1958, but because the date the moulds were made is moulded into the poop deck, I can state it’s actually 1959! It took some careful work with a blade to remove the manufacturers raised name and date from the deck before assembly. My kit was a Battle of Trafalgar Bicentennial 2006 boxing. Scalemates also claim the original scale is 1:146 and not the 1:225 stated on the Bicentennial box, but as has been pointed out in the kind responses below, this is incorrect and a 1:225 scale is most likely. The present was only a last minute stocking filler really, which my wife expected would end up at the charity shop because as a lifelong landlubber who’s main interest is aviation I typically make aircraft models. What she didn’t know is my dear old mum, the other important woman in my life bought me the Airfix kit of Victory for Christmas back in around 1967 when I was - to use Royal Navy 18th Century vernacular - a “nipper” of 10 - 11 years old. From memory, mum’s present along with the dining table, ended up a glue and paint smeared hulk with no attempt made to reproduce the miles of rigging. So despite my better half’s assumption, I decided to keep the kit and try to make a better job of Victory in memory of my late mother. However the kit remained stashed for years until Covid hit, when I started building it for something to do during lock down. As a lad I can remember being awed by the shipwright’s models I saw at the National Maritime Museum in London and truthfully what I’ve tried to create is a facsimile of a shipwright’s model, rather than a scale model of the real thing. I started out trying to keep as close as possible to the original Trafalgar colour scheme recently identified at the start of her most recent refit. I recall that many of the sailing ship models in the NMM did not have sails fitted, so I’ve made no attempt to model these. I realised early on that the finished model would be damage prone and also a powerful dust magnet, so once the rigging was well underway I constructed a custom acrylic and oak display cabinet for her. This includes a 2 cm diameter lapel pin copy of the her modern day ship’s badge and six small silver plaques engraved with all of Victory’s battle honours mounted at the front edge of the cabinet’s oak plinth. The latter were engraved at my local Timpson’s store. After the photographs you’ll find a bit more info on the build and some links to my previous posts in Work in Progress - Maritime. I hope you like her, warts and all, and no, I will not be building a “proper” wooden ship model from scratch anytime soon because I couldn’t afford the inevitable divorce settlement. During this voyage of discovery I’ve learnt a lot about 17th-18th Century sailing ships that I didn’t know previously and quite a few new construction techniques, such as making the clear acrylic display case to protect the finished model from dust and recreating the many deck mounted hammock racks out of an old Sainsbury’s supermarket loose veg netting bag! In my first build thread posted in Work in Progress - Maritime you’ll see that the hull came together fairly quickly during 2020, but stalled after I first attempted the rigging. In the beginning I reproduced all of the shroud lines individually using black elastic thread and attached these between the masts and the moulded on dead-eyes using jewellers adhesive. The adhesive worked, but took several minutes to cure sufficiently to hold firmly in place. I lost count of the number of times that the shrouds kept pinging off and needed re-glueing due to my impatience. When I’d finally got them all in place, I then realised that recreating the ratlines on the elastic shrouds was going to be an even greater challenge because when thinner elastic cord ratlines were glued across the shrouds they distorted and the process was also really tedious, I gave up halfway up one side of the lower main mast shrouds and literally put the now rather sad looking model on a shelf, where it sat gathering dust until 2023. My daughter and son in law bought me the Revell 1:700 HMS Invincible kit for my birthday in 2023 and I completed her last September. This put me in a nautical frame of mind again, so I decided to try finishing Victory off as a winter 2023-24 project and started build thread part 2 over in Work in progress -Maritime. So if you want to find out exactly how I reworked the shrouds and ratlines, do take a look. I’d downloaded detailed rigging plans for the JoTika large scale wooden model of Victory from the Jotika website and used these as the basis for this smaller scale model, but I also got a lot of kind help and suggestions from several more experienced Britmodeller salty sea dogs. I’ve tried to recreate as much as possible of the fixed and running rigging, but getting the right diameter elastic line at this scale remained problematic and I wasn’t able to do all the rigging because I started too late on in the build for easy access to some parts of the model. The end result is therefore by no means a fully accurate scale representation of HMS Victory, although I’d claim it’s currently in better shape than the real McCoy which is undergoing a multimillion pound refit and currently sans masts. Where I attempted to model some of the wooden blocks, I used various cut sections of plastic rod and compressed paper earbud shafts. The shrouds and some of the stays are still too thick and most of the other lines are to thin, but this is because I elected to use elastic thread throughout to prevent distortion of the kit’s thinner plastic parts. Also, all rigging lines are depicted under tension, when I suspect many would have some slack in them. However, taught though she is, I hope I’ve captured the essence of what was in her time one of the most complex man made moving objects on the planet and she’s turned out to be a really interesting and historical display piece for our living room bay window.
  2. Completing the Revell HMS Invincible has re-sparked my interest in Naval subjects, so I'm revisiting a half finished previous build. I got a bit frustrated and lost interest in finishing my Revell 1:225 HMS Victory build and having left her on the shelf for several months, below is what she looks like now - complete with wayward rigging and looking a bit sad! I got frustrated trying to get all the static rigging permanently attached and so lost interest in my HMS Victory build, but more recent experience attaching elastic rigging thread during my Gloster Gladiator Mk1 build showed me that Gorilla Gel CA glue used in combination with small amounts of CA accelerant applied using the tip of a small brush produces a resilient break resistant and rapid bond. So I'm planning on removing all those wayward shrouds and starting the rigging again as a 2023 winter project. However, I'm thinking through possible alternative approaches to getting the mast and futtock shrouds on her and would welcome any advice others can provide? These boil down to: Using commercially available generic photo etch shrouds. The problem is I can't find any purporting to be the correct scale and being generic they can only be approximations and will be difficult to accurately align with the kits moulded on dead-eyes. Buying a 3-D printer and printing some custom shrouds with the rat lines printed on that fit accurately. Expensive and pie in the sky for a 3-D printer in the hands of a newbie? Resorting to laboriously attaching every line using elastic thread and CA again. This is how I set about the original set in the pic above, but the 0.6 mm diameter elastic thread I used before looks a tad too too thick at this scale and I can't find any 0.25 mm diameter elastic thread anywhere on-line, plus all the speciality modellers rigging elastic threads I've seen are too thin. I could try cotton rigging thread, but fear the tensioning required to prevent the cordage sagging would too easily distort the easily bent plastic masts. Any suggestions folks?
  3. I had the great pleasure to visit the Victory in full restoration during September 2015 in its dry dock, the ship was in great need of it, the percentage of authentic pieces decreases from decade to decade as the work necessary to maintain it in its state. I recommend this visit if you are passionate about this kind of ship. Luckily the weather was nice, which allowed me to take pictures inside without flash. I think that these pictures will be useful for some people. Let's take some pictures:
  4. My Mum -God rest – bought me the Airfix kit of Victory for Christmas way back in the early 70s. It was somewhat off the beaten track for me then because I was and still am to a large degree a pure and simple airplane nut. I “had a go” at building, painting and even rigging it, but it was a styrene cement smeared and paint splodged wreck in the end. ☹ History has a habit of repeating itself and several Christmas’s back the other VIP in my life bought me the 200 year Battle of Trafalgar anniversary Revell HMS Victory set, which went straight into the stash once I copped a view of the many sink marks, prevalent flash and ejection pin marks the kit had on multiple parts. Covid lockdown had me looking at it again and this time I’ve seen it in a different light and have decided to dive in. Revell put quite a high level of fine detail into a kit that was tooled way back in 1959, especially on the hull sides and transom. As a child from the dawn of the Space Age I can definitively state that there was no CAD/CAM in 1959, so it was likely all done with slip sticks and mechanical pantographs! By the way, Revell were no doubt so proud of their efforts that they embossed their trade-mark and the date prominently on the Poop deck, rather than hidden away internally. The removal of this therefore requires very careful use of a scalpel.😊. First thing to note is that although I was able to airbrush the copper bottom plating and the base black colour of the hull sides, every other aspect of its painting so far has required brushing by hand. At my age near sight is non-existent and a steady hand hard to find, so a pair of reading specs and a stiff drink to steady the hand were an absolute must. For us olden types, the derivation of “Copper Bottom Guarantee” requires no explanation, but I still had to explain how this phrase came about to the Wife. History Graduate and Eldest Daughter was however better informed and knew that Welsh copper was used to plate the underside of Royal Navy ships as an anti-fouling measure in the late 18th Century and even suggested that Victory was probably plated up in the Pembroke dockyards(?) However, this all begs the question, is a “Copper Bottomed Guarantee” better than a “Cast Iron Guarantee”? I wanted to try and reproduce the “correct” Trafalgar colours in which Victory was recently repainted, so I chose Tamiya Nato Black acrylic for the dark grey/black elements and Tamiya Flat Flesh for the yellow ochre side stripes and other detailing. The hue of the new yellow ochre is reported to change with the lighting from a salmon pink through to a washed out yellow, so Tamiya Flat Flesh was only ever going to be an approximation. It became clear that a lot of the painting would have to be done before assembly of the hull, which sort of goes against the grain for me and how I learned to assemble an aircraft kit. Any fears I had about spoiling the paintwork with styrene cement on assembly was assuaged by the knowledge that Tamiya Extra Thin can, if applied carefully, have minimal impact on the paint finish. As far as I can tell, the kit so far is a fair approximation to the real article, but for some reason one of the gun ports was missing from the lower deck on the starboard side after the side door, so I fabricated one out of plastic card strip and Mr. Surfacer. The canopy support pillars on the side entrances are also a bit lacking but at this scale I decided to let these go. The build process and current state of play is shown below. The hull and Transom are nearly complete, apart from some further tidying up and flag painting, but the upper deck needs finishing and is only a dry fit currently. It’s obvious that the bulk of the work in finishing this kit will be the rigging. The kit provides two thread types to rig the ship, but I’m wondering if it would be better to invest in some elastic rigging thread to complete this. Are there any expert riggers out there with a view on this? Should I use the supplied thread, or get some elasticated line? Above: Missing gun port in Mr. Surfacer grey. After checking that the rear guns can’t be seen through the upper deck aperture I also closed out the rear 4 gun ports on each side of the upper gun deck because a dry fit test showed that the projecting guns would be out of alignment with these ports. Above: Port hull side with upper gun deck loosely fitted. This convinced me that I needed to add additional lugs internally to the hull sides to get a good alignment on assembly. Abive: Upper gun deck and hull sides. Rear cabin windows and Ochre detailing still to be completed. I left off the 4 last cannon on both sides at the rear. I can't understand why the deck looks grey in this pic. Its sprayed with Tamiya Deck Tan! Above: Hull after assembly and rear cabin window detailing. It doesn’t catch the eye so much in the flesh, but admittedly the rear cabin detailing looks a bit wobbly. I might have a further go at tidying this up, but I am at the limit of my hand brush work here. The tan colour of the upper deck in this shot looks more accurate than the upper gun deck colour in the previous one despite identical lighting. Finally, for now at least here is the Transom. I removed the overly large lugs for the stern lanterns with a scalpel and built up the central Fleur-de-Lys at the top using putty and Mr. Surfacer. I haven’t quite nailed it, but it’s getting there. I had a go at dry brushing it at first, but in my opinion you end up with too thin a line on most of the detail doing this. So I went back to using a fine brush and thinned the acrylic paint with air brush cleaner to improve fluidity, plus delay drying of the paint. I did wonder if light blue windowpanes would be a mistake, but once I had the frames painted I was happy that they add a suggestion of reflected sky and sea to the windows. I’m not sure if the lettering should really be in white or ochre, but the ships name was drawn on directly in one go using a 0.35 Rotring pen primed with white ink and the spaces between the columns in the colonnades were touched up with a 0.5 fine liner black pen. I quite like the slightly off kilter lettering in the name. For me the lettering on the real thing looks way to neat for an early 19th century letter writer hanging off a bosuns chair on a choppy sea using horsehair brushes and no masking tape, plus who can prove definitively what colour the lettering was on the day at Trafalgar? Go on, tell me I’m wrong.😉. I’m debating whether to seal the water based ink with a spray coat of matt varnish before I put it on the hull. Anyone have a view on that? Will it just smudge, or not?
  5. Some years ago I started a build of this but after a dramatic tumble from the shelf I abandoned the whole thing. Now however, with a brand new purchase of the kit (plus a good few spares from the old build) I am all ready to start again. First of all I decided to go for the decoration of the stern. I had to get myself a size 20/0 brush and an optivisor but I am quite pleased with the results so far. 20171022_223634 by markleecarter, on Flickr I am going to redo the lettering however but I think this shows just how good the detailing is on this little model. I did have to sand off the giant bosses where the lanterns attach and you can still make them out a bit but in real life, and once the lanterns are attached it shouldn't show up too much.
  6. Hi guys I'm right at the beginning of this build. Not even having two parts cemented together yet. I'm concentrating 100% on the parts prep and boy is there plenty of shaving, filling and sanding with this horror. My plan for this kit is to take my time and come away with a nice tight fitting and tidy build. I'm going to be hand painting and will generally be sticking to the listed paints...wether historically correct or not. This is my 2nd attempt at my 1st rigged warship if that makes sense...my last Victory was consigned to the rubbish tip in disgust some 10 yrs ago and I'm already regretting not having kept it for spares but I didn't so nothing I can do about it now. I'm currently filling and sanding the 72 gunport shutters as my 1st step...I will in due course be adding pics of my progress once there's something worth seeing. If anyone can let me know how to insert pics here I'd appreciate it....thanks in advance
  7. So having finished my build at 1:144 Scale I have decided to shrink back down to 1:700 scale again. I thought I should share my build of a kit I picked up at the South West Ship Show in Portishead a couple of months ago. I had not seen one of these before and was not aware of the manufacturer also there was a nice model of Victory on the stand and temptation got the better of me. I know that this model doesn’t fit with my usual of modern warships but my excuse is that HMS Victory is still in commission as the Flagship of CinC Fleet and features on the back of my Long Service and Good Conduct Medal. So starting in the usual fashion with the contents and packaging label The hull is cast in resin to a good standard the mast and spars are white metal with PE ratline. I bought the extra fret for the sails. The following pictures are my progress of my build so far. Much of it has been a lesson in hand painting which was made easier by using Vallejo acrylics. Rigging is 80wt cotton thread. More to follow soon. Thanks for looking.
  8. Hi Everyone My son has recently twisted my arm into getting him the 1/180 scale HMS Victory. This was a schoolboy error on my part by giving his the Airfix catalogue to look at, we were fortunate enough to find a slightly started one for £5 however...... My son is 8 years old........& The instructions are missing ! As someone who has never built even a small sailing ship before, the thought of tackling a 300 odd piece classic without instructions is unthinkable. If you can help with advice, a copy of the instructions, counselling etc I'm all ears ! Cheers Pat
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