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Hello all – here’s another completion just off the bench; a ‘What if” Fokker Dr.1 seaplane, based on the 1/48 Eduard Dr.1 kit. This one was just for a bit of fun (so apologies to those who aren’t fans of ‘what if’ subjects). I added floats, extended the cowl to fit a Oberursel Ur.III twin row rotary engine (from Small Stuff; this engine is a kit in itself), added a vertical stabiliser, added some cockpit details, and replaced the guns with some from Gaspatch. I also scratch built the beaching trolleys and trestles. The German naval lozenge is from Aviattic, and decals are from the Eduard kit and the spares box. Some in-progress pics (the full build log is here - https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12812.0 ) This was an enjoyable little project, and looks rather unique in the display cabinet. Thanks for looking! Cheers, BC

Hello everyone – this is my latest completion, the 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1. The kit is painted in the markings of Ltn Hans Koerner, Jasta 19, May 1918. I added some detail to the cockpit, replaced the kit guns with items from Gaspatch, added the telescopic gunsight that Korner fitted to his machine, and shortened the undercarriage struts to correct the ‘sit’ of the model. The rest was out of box. The Fokker streaked camouflage was from Aviattic, and the personal markings from Pheon. This is a lovely little kit which presents minimal problems in construction (save those that were self induced), and was a joy to build. For the build log, see here – https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13042.0 Thanks for looking, and feedback always welcomed! Cheers, BC

Started this last night because I am bored, the wife told me to do my nails. In other words start a new kit - she associates the smell of Tamiya Extra Thin with doing your nails. I thought this would be a simple build, but I think Airfix have got the colours wrong. I have glued some plastic and done a bit of painting but I am not sure about the colours to use. Thanks for stopping by for a look. Stephen

LF Models has just released 1/72nd Fokker C.VD kits - Ref. PE7201 - Fokker C.VD Holland part 1 Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2346&zenid=34r535i0udc4vhss7gc4qs68l7 - Ref. PE7202 - Fokker C.VD Holland part 2 Source: https://www.lfmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2347&zenid=34r535i0udc4vhss7gc4qs68l7 V.P.

In project/design by MikroMir is a 1/48th Fokker G-1A Jachtkruiser kit - ref. 48-016 Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1512478232163241&id=1416295571781508 3D renders in progress V.P.

Fokker De Spin 1/32 scratch + 3D print I've decided quite a while ago to build one of the most interesting pioneer aircraft (IMHO) - the Spider. It consists of rigging, rigging and even more rigging so it sounds like fun. I've started with the "fuselage". At the beginning I had designed the 3D parts like skids and the frame but after I printed them it turned out they are just too fragile, so the brass was used instead. The radiators and the seat are 3D printed. This is what I've managed to do. The spoke wheels have been made using the 3D-printed rim and wheels with wire spokes and the hub made of brass. They look slightly crude, especially when compared to the Steven Robson's spokes which are stellar but still I'm quite happy that I've learnt something new. I've designed the Argus engine and other bits like tail fin and the petrol tank in Blender and they were printed by my mate Przemek Żurek.

Airfix 1/72 Fokker E.III Eindecker, 105/15, of Ernst Udet

X-Resin has released a 1/48th resin kit of the Fokker F VIIb 3M in two configurations on wheels or floats. X-Resin proposes five different boxings: Polish, Swiss and Italian, Spanish, Dutch and American of Amelia Erhart's Friendship. Source: http://aeroscale.kit...=thread&order=0 Parts: V.P.

Hello mates, MOA's builds of civilian aircraft has got me interested in building some civilian aircraft. I chose Smithy's "Southern Cross" as my first adventure into these planes. I have had many hours looking through google images and becoming totally confused. There are plenty of pictures available, but you have to work out which picture belongs to what era. The "Southern Cross" was built from 2 wrecks and it was rebuilt and rebuilt and rebuilt and rebuilt again. I have chosen to do the aircraft as she was when it was flown from the USA to Australia. Should be easy, right. Box art. Instructions. Parts. If anyone wishes to add any info to this build feel free to do so. Thanks for looking. Stephen

1/72 Fokker D.VII by Eduard confirmed here: http://ipmsnymburk.com/forum/viewtema.php?ID_tema=11559

Hi all, First and foremost best wishes for the new year, including lots of good modelling time! As a had a few days to relax these days i thought i'd look for an interesting little project that would be engaging enough but i could finish over the holidays. enter the Fokker by Arma Hobby Post WW1 Belgium acquired a single Fokker E.V that had been brought up to D.VIII standard (as far as i can tell this was a mandatory upgrade made by the Germans as the early E.V had a serious structural flaw that could cause catastrophic failure of the, than very advanced, wing structure, so it was in essence an early factory recall. in Belgian service this single machine participated in air shows and had a short career in a civil air school. a flying replica of this very machine exists today. Arma Hobbies Fokker E.V in the "expert set" is a lovely little kit. it consists of a single small sprue and some photo-etch to supplement some of the finest kit parts. not much at first glance but a lot of fun to build with not much room for error. the markings where painted on but kit decals where used for the instruments en interior wood and fabric textures and these worked beautifully, there is also a wood decal for the prop, but i chose to paint it. i find a good technique for painting markings is to start with the light colours and masking those, working your way up until the entire marking is painted and masked, and only than paint the entire model. this reduces the chance of heavy paint build-up against the masks when trying to get light colours to cover dark cammo. one this i forgot about was to coat with a varnish between each mask, the idea being the invisible varnish will bleed under seal all mask imperfections rather than the subsequent layer of darker paint as i has some minor issues with now. there are a few differences between the model en the real thing, it looks like the real plane had the guns removed, and featured a different winshield, but i installed the kit parts, it's on of the areas where photo etch makes all the difference the engine, although largely hidden is also a thing of beauty, again here the photo etch pushrods add a lot or realism. things to look out for when building this kit: - two of the decals for the dials on the cockpit side and engine hood are swapped in the instructions, and as they are a different diameter this would give problems - the framing for the sidewalls is very fine and a ended up breaking one so take care removing those from the sprue. - there is a minor amount of flash and mold lines, witch need to be removed carefully. this is not difficult, but given the overall finesse of the parts it's sometimes hard to see if it's flash or a sharp edge that should be there - the stick has a control lever that protrudes trough the bottom of the airframe, i didn't realise this until it was to late and i had replicate the arm and rod from scratch, i didn't do the best job. Overall construction went very well, and fit and alignment was surprisingly good, the extra detail you get in the "expert" boxing was certainly worth it. the only downside is you have to get real close to see all the details at witch point every minor imperfection becomes visible as well, so there's the question of what level of detail you really want in this scale, regardless i had great fun building it!

A suggestion. Well in advance as this ere forum works that way and it takes time to get the required numbers A 'Fokker' GB in 2022 I noticed that Antony Fokker started his first company on 22nd February 1912 So 2022 will 110 years of Fokker There are plenty of models, from the E.I / II / III / IV series, the ubiquitous Dr.1, D. VII and the D.XXI to the F.27 100 and more, and all sorts of numbers and types in between. Excluded are the types that Fokker bought in and sold on as a sales agent Anyone for it? 1. Black Knight (me, of course) 2. Corsairfoxfouruncle 3. Marklo 4. Andwil 5. John Masters 6. TonyOD (?) 7. Ted 8. JOCKNEY 9. Tim R-T-C 10. stevehed 11. Arniec 12. Rob S 13. Torbjorn 14. Peter Lloyd 15. RC Boater Bill 16. 2996 Victor 17. zebra 18. ColonelKrypton 19. dnl42 20. Blitz23 21. GREG DESTEC 22. ??

Fokker Dr.1 Triplane 1:24 Meng (QS-003) One of the most recognisable aircraft of the Great War, the Fokker Dr.1 triplane achieved a reputation well beyond the small number actually built. It was in service for not much more than six months from late 1917, until early summer 1918. It needed an experienced pilot to get the best from it, as it was slow but highly manoeuvrable. The all red aircraft of Manfred von Richthofen is the most famous of the Dr.1’s but several other aces also flew them. It seems that Wingnut Wings may have been working on producing aircraft in 1:24 scale, as the appearance and layout of all the sprues are very much in their style. Even down to the clear parts being sprue ‘C’, and the engine sprue ‘E’ which was always what they did in their 1:32 kits. Even the box art is by Steve Anderson, who did all the Wingnut Wings box art . I don’t suppose we will find out for sure, but circumstantial evidence suggests that Wingnut Wings DNA runs through this kit. That said, this is not a scaled up version of the 1:32nd Meng Dr.1 kit. The sprues and breakdown of the parts is completely different, as befits a larger model. Lifting the lid reveals seven polythene bags containing individually wrapped sprues (double in the case of sprue ‘D’) , six of which are in Meng’s usual light grey plastic, and one in clear. An A5 sized instruction booklet, four multi lingual cards outlining a brief history, a sheet of decals, a small sheet of fabric, and a little box of etched brass completes the package. Unusually construction begins with the assembly of the four-point harness, which is composed of pre-cut fabric straps and etched brass buckles. This is a ‘first’ in being supplied in a mainstream kit as far as I know, and should look extremely effective draped over the pilots seat. I’ve used aftermarket fabric seat belts in the past, they do look better than their etched metal equivalents, and I’d say that in this large scale they are essential. Construction then moves on to the rest of the cockpit, which is fully fitted out with a tubular structure, floor, seat, ammo box, instruments, and control items. This all builds up into a box structure, which is then fitted between the fuselage halves. Again, it is telling that it uses Wingnut Wings location method of an open hole in each side of the cockpit ‘module’ that locates over a raised circle moulded in the fuselage side. The inner fuselage halves themselves feature the long triangular plywood fairing that runs down the inside of the fuselage, and is such a feature of the Dr.1 cockpit. All the parts are beautifully moulded with no flash and very fine detail. The wrinkled fabric effect on the ‘Bulkhead’ behind the seat is a very nice touch, as is the provision of a couple of flare pistols. The fuselage underside has a moulded strip of stitching to apply in the same way as on Wingnut Wings 1/32 Fokker D.VII kits Looking at the wealth of finely detailed parts on this sprue, it is apparent how well suited 1/24 scale is. Everything is large enough to have strength, yet fine enough to appear exactly in scale, something that the smaller scales can struggle with. Externally the forward fuselage has a choice of square or circular inspection panels, the colour profiles at the end of the instruction booklet show which ones are appropriate for the particular options. The cockpit/midwing fairing is a large single piece that fits over the mid wing and onto the fuselage. The twin LMG 08/15 Spandau machine guns sit atop this fairing, with the choice of either solid plastic barrels, or some stunning fretted brass cooling jackets. I don’t know how they have been done, but the cooling jackets are finely etched (or milled) brass tubes, ready to slide over the plastic body and barrels of the basic machine gun mouldings. They couldn’t be simpler and will surely make into an amazing centre point of the completed model. Fine detail on the ammunition rounds and belt feed into the sides of each Spandau will enhance it further. Again, like the fabric seat belts this is the first time I have seen these pre-fretted brass tubes supplied in a mainstream kit. The wings are all provided as upper and lower halves, with internal ribs and spars moulded in to add strength. This ensures that there won’t be any repeat of the incidents of the slight warp that was found on the solid moulded wings in some of the 1/32 kits. All three wings are assembled the same way, with a drawing in the instruction book showing to open up flashed over holes in the leading edge to fit the stacking pads. Check which version you are building and follow the instructions to open up the correct pair. Two ‘Axle wings’ are provided for the undercarriage the main difference being short and long chord, and again it is pointed out in the instructions which one goes with which version. Interestingly there are two complete pairs of main wheels on the sprue D’s. D8 and D9 are the ones used by all four variants in the kit. The slightly smaller diameter D14 and D15’s are appropriate to the prototype Fokker F.1 as flown by Werner Voss and Manfred von Richthofen. In addition the F1 ailerons are present on sprue D, so I expect Meng will release a kit of this at some point. It won’t be possible to create an F.1 from this boxing as it only has the straight edged tailplane appropriate to the Dr.1. The 9 cylinder Oberursel UR.II was an almost identical copy of the French Le Rhone 9J, and was the standard engine fitted to the DR.1 at the factory. Some were retro fitted with captured Clerget 9B engines so be careful if choosing aftermarket decals. Here in the kit we have a very nicely moulded Oberursel, made up of few parts, but with separate cylinder caps and valves. All that the modeller needs to add is fine ignition wires running out to each spark plug. Most Oberursel powered Dr.1’s were fitted with the Axial propeller, although a Heine can sometimes be seen in contemporary photographs. The choice is yours as both types are provided in the kit, along with two further props that are not needed. The clear parts consist of several items, of which only one windscreen and the inspection panel cover are used. Interestingly an early reflector gunsight is included but not marked for use, as it is in the 1:32 kit. Etched parts. These come in their own little box, packed in a sponge 'wallet' with a lift off lid. Also in the protective sponge are the two beautiful Spandau cooling jackets mentioned earlier. The brass fret has no connection points to the individual components, instead all is held in place by a thin film of plastic. I really like this as it means you don't have to cut each part from the brass sheet, and clean up the inevitable 'nubs' on the parts. The two barrel ends and sights are provided, but most of the parts are buckles and connectors for threading on to the fabric seat belts. Options, Four are provided, but if you leave off the ‘LO’ text from option A it will make Ltn Hans Kirschstein's Jasta 6 586/17.This was passed on to Udet in May 1918, when his usual 'LO' marking applied over the black and white fuselage stripes. A. 586/17 Ltn Ernst Udet, Jasta 4, 1918. B. 152/17, Manfred von Richthofen, JG 1, March 1918. C. 577/17, Rudolf Klimke, Jasta 27, May 1918. D. 213/17, Ltn Kempf, Jasta 2, February 1918. Decals. The decals appear to be Mengs own production. They are neatly printed with on a sheet close to A4 size, covering all the various German crosses (Eisenkruez and Balkenkreuz) needed to complete any of the four options. The carrier film is minimal around the crosses, and naturally a little more extensive around the ‘LO’, ‘KEMPF’, and ‘kennscht mi noch’ texts, and also the anchors. The finish is overall matt, and everything appears to be in good register. Conclusion. An unexpected and surprise release this one. It is a beautifully designed and moulded kit, and should build into a very impressive model. Hopefully there will be more releases on the way, as its appeal will be increased if it can be displayed with a Camel, Se5a, Albatros DV, or Fokker D.VII to the same scale. The whole package is of very high quality, and a completely new kit that has nothing in common with Meng's smaller 1:32 scale release of the same aircraft. If you like early aircraft but are afraid of rigging, then this one is an ideal starter as it only has four very simple rigging lines to apply, and they can be easily done with stretched sprue or wire. And there is no complicated strut work either! Highly Recommended. Review sample courtesy of

After the 1/32nd kit "inherited" from late WnW, Meng is to release a 1/24th Fokker Dr.1 kits - ref. QS003 - Fokker Dr.1 - ref. QS003s - Fokker Dr.1 + Blue Max Medal Sources: http://www.meng-model.com/en/contents/59/330.html http://www.meng-model.com/en/contents/59/334.html https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3743795272400436&id=195290177250981 V.P.

So here for the start of my second Wingnut Wings kit, actually my second WWI build all together, the beautiful Fokker D.VII. I´ve obtained the kit just two years ago when i decided to start this hobby again after some 30 years of absence. But after doing the Fokker D.II i was on fire again. I decided to do the engine first. I,ve got the HGW super detail set and Taurus spark plugs, timing gear, primer cups as well as the intake manifold nuts... all in for my first WWI inline engine . I tried copper line from a cable for the spark plugs but was not completedly happy. So fiddly and a bit too thin. Also the bend is not as smooth as i liked. Probably my Hands are a bit too shakey. So for the wires from the distributors i used Prym elastic. I think that worked much better. Just trying out and learning.....

Good morning, I'm really stepping out of my comfort zone here - I want to build this Dutch Fokker D.VII: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/foto-s/detail/6116d8a4-c093-4341-97e5-8d725661d79f out of this kit: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-7407-fokker-dvii-oaw-weekend-edition--1346938 Now, unfortunately I know next to nothing about anything pre-WWII, and have very little references on them. The Eduard kit has several options for fuselages, engines, wheels, guns etc. - would anyone here happen to be able to advise on which specific parts to use for a 1930's Dutch example? Thanks in advance for any insights..! Cheeers, Andre

It all started back in October’20 when I built the (newer) Revell Dr.1 as a change of pace. (I had just finished a BIG project- a 1/144 scale Escort Carrier (RC) with Avengers and Wildcats on deck.) The Revell kit was a ice build, but it is molded in bright red plastic. I didn’t want to fight painting over the red, so I finished it in Jacobs’ all black scheme, using the decals from the Eduard Profipack kit. After I finished, a club mate said “Nice to see something besides the all red MvR Dr.1 - there was such a variety of colorful schemes.” That inspired me, and now, a couple of months later, I have a total of seven Triplanes. All but one are Eduard kits, a mix of WE and Profipack kits. The models are build essentially OOB, with pilots added. (They will all end up in a mobile over my desk- a “Flying Circus”.). After building six of the Eduard kits, I am pretty sure I have found most of the mistakes you can make when building this kit. (I have two left to finish, so I may find a new error to make!) Markings are a mix of Eduard and scrapbox decals, plus some were painted using masks. One thing I am pleased with is the Fokker Streaking- it came out a lot better than it did on other builds in the past..

Revell 1/72 Fokker Dr.1 of Lothar von Richthofen, March 1918. The old 1966 (1978 issue) kit using the scheme and decals from a more recent Revell Dr.1 (2003) Built for the 'Under a tenner' GB

Lifthere! is to release a 1/72nd Fokker S.13 resin kit - red. LHM052 Source: https://www.aviationmegastore.com/fokker-s13-expected-before-the-end-of-2019-lhm052-lift-here-decals-lhm052-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=163642 V.P.

Fokker D.VI 1/32 Roden The D.VI is not as well known as other Fokker fighters of the Great War, but it sits chronologically between the DR.1 Triplane and the superb D.VII. In fact it was entered into the same Idflieg 'Fighter Competition' at Adlershof in January 1918. It was already outdated with its rotary engine unable to provide the power levels of the inline engined D.VII. However a small number of them found a niche as Home defence fighters, as they were able to start up and take off immediately enemy bombers were approaching, whereas the inline engined aircraft had to take time to warm up. The Roden kit is based on their earlier DR.1 Triplane kit, with a new set of biplane wings as the main change. It also has the advantage of almost no rigging. The LMG/08 Spandau guns are solid mouldings, but they also provide unjacketed ones for aftermarket etched jackets - I used some Eduard ones I had on a Fokker D.VII set. The fuselage is pretty much the same as the Triplane kit. It comes with a full set of lozenge decals, which I was bit wary of having found previous Roden decals to be problematic. But these are a quantum leap forward, a vast improvement, they were easy to use, settled down well, and the colours are pretty good. So forget any previous experience with Roden decals, these are really good! On with the photos: I added some brass etched stitching to the under fuselage centre line. Thanks for looking, John

Hello hobby colleagues) Today I have one of my old assemblies for you. The plane of the "Red Baron" Manfred von Richthofen - Fokker Dr.1. I got the model from Eduard in Profi Pack absolutely by accident. And then he fell in love with this three-winged bug. The assembly was a lot of pleasure, although my Russian colleagues, modelers, scold this model. So, enjoy your viewing)

Fokker D.VII (OAW) Seven Swabians 1:32 Wingnut Wings Got a week off work so plenty of time to pull a 'big' build out of the stash and make a decent start. I've been itching to do the Wingnut Wings Fokker D.VII (OAW) for a while now, but had a massive problem in that I could not decide on which colour scheme to finish it in. It is a problem in a good way, because there are so many really attractive ones to choose from. For sure I want to do 3 OAW versions, Franz Buchner's and Willhelm Leusch's...... ...and the 'Seven Swabians' from Wingnut Wings own 'aftermarket' decal sets. I knew that if I chose just 1 of these schemes and stared the kit, I would regret not choosing one of the other 2! I solved this problem by dipping my hands deep into my pockets and ordering 2 more of the OAW kits. 'A modellers got to do what a modellers got to do' and I can't get enough of Fokker D.VII's. Anyway, good progress has been made, and this week has reminded me why I enjoy Wingnut Wings kits so much. This has been pure modelling pleasure, such a beautifully engineered kit. All this is out of the box, apart from the stretched sprue bracing wires & control runs, plus the ignition leads on the engine from black and yellow twisted thread soaked in white glue. Cockpit & engine bay; Daimler-Mercedes 200hp D.IIIau engine; Engine & Prop in place; In one fuslage half. Note the 'faded interior' side of the external lozenge fabric. Although this aircraft has a painted pale grey fuselage, it was delivered in lozenge fabric which was the overpainted on the outside. Wings will be covered with lozenge decals, but I have undercoated these with sutable base colours. A painted finish is essential to give the decals something to bite on to. The 3 builders of the D.VII (Fokker, Albatros, & OAW) all had their own distinctive cowling panels. I've prepared the OAW specific ones, and airbushed the insides with Citadel 'Runefang steel'. Next stage is to zip up the fuselage. Thanks for looking, John

Modelling abhors a vacuum. After Wingnut Wings (WnW) demise (link) Meng is taking up the torch with a 1/32nd Fokker F.I, Dr.I (early & late) kit - ref. QS-002. Sources: http://www.meng-model.com/en/contents/59/290.html https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3079892082124095&id=195290177250981 V.P.

Eastern Express has just released 1/144th Fokker F-27-200 kits - ref. EE144115-1 - Fokker F-27-200 Balair Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-balair-eastern-express-144115-01.html - ref. EE144115-2 - Fokker F-27-200 Air UK Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-air-uk-eastern-express-144115-02.html - ref. EE144115-3 - Fokker F-27-200 Finnair Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-finnair-eastern-express-144115-03.html - ref. EE144115-4 - Fokker F-27-200 SAS Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-sas-eastern-express-144115-04.html - ref. EE144115-5 - Fokker F-27-200 North West Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-northwest-eastern-express-144115-05.html - ref. EE144115-6- Fokker F-27-200 All Nippon Airways Source: https://hobbyterra.com/product/fokker-27-200-all-nippon-airways-eastern-express-144115-06.html V.P.

This is the 1/72 Roden Fokker D.VII (OAW Mid) kit, finished in the markings of Ltn. Rudolf Stark when he was commander of Jasta 35b in August 1918. Plenty has been written about Roden's Fokker D.VII kits and much of it is pretty uncomplimentary; most of it is also true. Although it looks very well detailed in the box and significantly more delicate than Eduard's example, very little fits without widening, narrowing, shortening, lengthening, filling, fiddling and fettling. The lozenge decals are brittle and unyielding to Microsol or Mr. Mark Softer, and even after plenty of both was used, along with very warm water, significant pressure was required to get the decals to conform, and that pressure tore and shattered many of the edges necessitating much hand retouching of missing lozenge. Roden's rib tape decals were completely unusable and split into varying lengths on contact with water, even after overcoating with two coats of Future/Kleer on the sheet. Eduard's newly released sheet of rib tapes, while intended for their recent kit, fit the Roden kit quite well, so they were used instead. The remaining Roden decals were variable, with the crosses and personal markings working quite well, and the codes and stencils silvering quite badly. There's around 120 decals on this model and, to be honest, finishing it became a chore about three weeks before actual completion, so the control lines remain unfinished for now and I'll return to them eventually. But the final result is quite pleasing and it looks good in the cabinet alongside Udet's 'Lo' and Berthold's winged sword examples, both of which I made years ago from the Esci kit. I built it alongside Roden's 1/72 Fokker Dr.I, finished in Vzfw Ulrich Neckel's Jasta 12 markings from April 1918. This kit isn't as bad as the D.VII with respect to fit and decals (no lozenge for example) but it's no shining example of state-of-the-art and was less frustrating but not completely trouble-free. Triplane aficionados may note that the upper support struts do not match the location of the lower struts. This was an error of my own making when I failed to increase the length of the cabane struts (they're about 2-3 mm too short out of the box), which threw out the wing geometry. Once again, I'll live with it; it looks OK in the cabinet. There are less frustrating kits of both of these aeroplanes offered by Revell and Eduard; choose one of them if you want a trouble-free build. But with better lozenge, care in building and a bit more planning, both of these can build quite nicely. I have a few more in the stash, especially the D.VII and I'm sure I'll build more down the track. Cheers, Jeff