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1 hour ago, stever219 said:
Not a problem here Allan, but the Vickers Funbus is a favourite if mine, which does tend to push me towards rivet-counting mode
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I agree that this is likely to be our only shot at an IM VC-10 but if I can get hold of one I'd be doing it as an RAF C. Mk. 1 from the "Shiny Fleet" days.
No worries mate!
. As long as we both enjoy the hobby, I don't think it matters how we approach it.
I'm just happy to have the opportunity to get my paws on a 1/72 VC-10. Well, maybe not now but, at some future time when my finances are in better health!
Whatever the kits faults may be, she's still a beautiful lady!
Allan
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1 hour ago, bzn20 said:Is there a price yet ?
I'm sure I saw a post either here or another forum suggesting a likely price of about £100 using the Anigrand and Magna resin kits as a comparison.
I think they are both around the £150 mark.
With the recent Brittania over £60, I'd be assuming a price of maybe £70-80 for the VC - 10.
Appreciate I was jumping the gun a bit but, I cannot afford the Brittania either!
Allan
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1 minute ago, Adam Poultney said:
Yes, and the Sunderland I believe.
I was more thinking of their XB-70, which I think it's significantly larger than the V Bombers, at least in terms of length
About 30" long. Although it was actually an AMT original. Bit of a challenge to build but, quite spectacular when completed
Allan
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3 minutes ago, Adam Poultney said:
Wouldn't be surprised at either of them. They're not afraid to touch large bomber aircraft in 1/72.
Especially as Italeri has produced two kits of the Short Stirling. Another item for which Airfix had hitherto produced the only other1/72 kit
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1 hour ago, Denford said:
Which other manufacturers did you have in mind?
Maybe Revell (Germany ) and Italeri? The largest European manufacturers to name but two.
I don't personally know either why nobody else has produced a 1/72 Vulcan. They will of course have what they presumably consider valid reasons. Maybe they don't believe it has much sales appeal outside the UK?
Allan
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2 hours ago, stever219 said:
ZA141 did fly in those colours, but was repainted into the then-current Hemp (Camouflage Beige) and Light Aircraft Grey scheme some time around when she was delivered to the RAF. The point that was being made is that the kit has the “wrong” wing for a BOAC/BA VC-10, from which all of the K. Mk. 2 tankers were converted, although some of them had seen service with other airlines before conversion.
I’ve not yet seen the kit, but from comments above it appears that the kit wing has the extended inboard leading edges appropriate to the V.1103, 1106, 1151, 1154 members of the VC-10 family and may even require some judicious modification to properly represent one or more of those variants.
I understood the point being made very well.
. To be honest, I can't tell one VC-10 from another so, the point I was making (not very well I admit. my fault)was that it does not bother me.
I know that does not sit well with some people but, that's just me! I'm very much a " build it anyway " sort of guy.
In any case, it's all moot as I cannot, at the moment afford the kit! However, my partner is looking for further suggestions to add to her Crimbo shopping list...!
Seriously though, I think this is probably the only chance of a 1/72 VC-10 in I M styrene for the foreseeable future. For that reason, I would buy it, warts and all.. I am genuinely sorry if others are disappointed.
Allan
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On 10/22/2019 at 11:35 AM, exdraken said:
so you actually think there is a market for all those different scales??
hard to believe...(cynicism off )
Ok! Maybe 5 different answers!
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Fictitious or not, I actually rather like the camouflage version. A lot more interesting than the real boring grey finish.
Allan
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8 hours ago, vppelt68 said:
Allan, if you read again my post which seems to have started the whole pre cut mask debate, you'll find me writing I think we pay 2-3 times their actual price in having to buy them separately. So I agree with you in regard of their cost; still there are kits I nowadays don't want to start building if I don't have them at hand!
V-P
I was actually responding specifically to a post made after yours which was suggesting, obviously with tongue in cheek that the big announcement was going to that Airfix was going to include paint masks. I had not, at the time seen or read your own original post. Sorry about that!
That said, I agree with the point you make. I also agree that it is a sound suggestion. Provided they did not significantly increase the cost of the kits, I would support it. However, unless or until it happens, I still won't be buying individual masks.
Allan
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6 hours ago, roy107 said:
Maybe but I'd be much happier with a Hunting H.126
Hell no! That thing's even uglier than an F-35!!! No mean achievement!!. Still, at least it isn't boring and grey!
Allan
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4 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:
The cost of the masks should not be compared to the cost of the kit to which you are applying them. The appropriate way to evaluate their value is to the time saved in using pre-cut masks versus creating the masks yourself or, if you are brave, painting the frames free-hand with the associated need for touch-ups and re-work. You may not think of it this way, but time itself has value. If you put an hour into building a kit, you've probably already spent more on that kit in time than in the cost to purchase it. If you spend ten hours on a kit, there are very few kits you couldn't buy with the value of that time. You might think I'm being facetious with this line of reasoning, but our time is not unlimited and if buying a set of masks saves me half an hour versus the alternatives it's money well spent in my opinion. I'm currently working on an Airfix 1/72 Blenheim I and it took me all of 15 minutes to mask the clear parts with Eduard masks whereas it would have taken over an hour to mask all the parts if I had to cut all the masks myself. That doesn't account for the likelihood that I'll make a cut in the wrong place and have to then fix the unwanted mark on the clear part of the canopy.
I don't think you are being facetious at all. I just do not see time spent masking as an issue. I never have.
My sole issue is over the cost of pre cut masks. I always thought that considering what you have to pay in exchange for some bits of sticky paper makes them extremely poor value.
From that perspective therefore I think it is perfectly justifiable to compare the cost of masks with the cost of the kit to which they are being applied.
Others, like yourself obviously take a different view and, I respect that. However, I'd rather spend my very limited funds on additional kits.
Allan
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6 hours ago, 71chally said:
In 72nd I would have been all over this.
Especially if they added a 580!
Allan
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Just now, Adam Poultney said:
Someone mentioned a sperrin? The fourth V Bomber? Give me 2! Or 4 so I can What-If them!
Making your own mask can be tedious and not everyone is that good at it, if it didn't increase the cost of the kit I think it could very well help to boost sales on kits with awkward or particularly tedious masking
Well, that's certainly true, it can be tedious and time consuming but, patience is a virtue......
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Some manufacturers already include them so, I think it is a practical idea. I actually have a pair of Revell Lockheed Ventura kits which were issued with masks provided
Allan
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3 hours ago, roy107 said:
That's an excellent idea! That said, I really should get a Herc and add a W2 to the "one day" list. It even has a family connection so now I'm kicking myself for not thinking of it sooner. Might have to look into getting a couple of Zvezda C-130s when they're released next year.
Unless Airfix' big announcement at Telford is a C-130 of course. As the arguments are all showing that it won't be a Vulcan I'd take another C-130 in 1/72.
Or instead of a Vulcan and a C-130, a Shorts Sperrin.
Would you settle for an Avro Type 730 instead of the Short Sperrin ?
2 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:I think they should actually do this.
I normally avoid masks because I think they are poor value for money and, in some cases they can actually cost as much as something like a series 1 Airfix model kit.
That said, I consider this a good idea. The economies of scale involved in mass production would probably ensure that the masks would add little to the cost of the kit
Allan
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54 minutes ago, roy107 said:
I've been planning on Luftwaffe Green/Grey for mine, like a Transall C-160. I suppose as per the option that comes in the box.
I don't object to grey in moderation but there are certainly better schemes to paint an aircraft in. I've shied away from getting an F-35 for a variety of reasons but the lack of interesting colour schemes is certainly one of them.
That said, I do enjoy What-Ifs so an ETPS raspberry ripple F-35 could be interesting. Or an ETPS A-400M! Now that gives me ideas.
How about this for an idea? Remember the old Hercules W2? How about an A-400 W2. I like your idea of the ETPS A-400. It would of course have to be in the lovely "raspberry ripple"finish!
Allan
Sudden thought, a new Vulcan would look gorgeous in that red,blue and white scheme!
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10 hours ago, Adam Poultney said:
Not for me though, it's grey and boring. I'd rather stick to the aircraft of the past like the Vulcan or various Luftwaffe subjects
Agreed. I have a built in aversion for boring grey jets. The only thing the F-35 in particular does for me is to induce yawns!
Don't do boring grey aircraft as a matter of principle! When I finally get round to it, even my Revell A-400 kit will be in the old RAF "sand and stone" finish!
Allan
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1 hour ago, Denford said:
Add to your list:
"Modellers have been crying out for it for years"
As for the Telford announcement, there will still be the other 2020 releases to be announced at some Trade Fair (NOT the Nuremberg Trade Fair) early January. Does anyone know just when?
I forgot about that one!
From memory, the trade fair releases are about the second week in January
Allan
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1 hour ago, trickydicky210 said:
We might get a 1/48 P47 in the new years issue list, but i doubt it will be the Telford announcemment. (P51D didnt warrant a Talford announcemnet - so unlikley that a P47 would)
I don't think it will have the WOW factor
I hope its something that will sell well
1/350 QEC
1/72 B24
1/72 B29
1/24 SPIT IA
1/48 TYPHOON (EUROFIGHTER)
1/72 CATALINA
1/48 F-35B
As always some will be happy and most will wish it was something else
Actually, I think it's more entertaining reading all the whines and whinges after the announcement. "Not my scale/wrong scale"!
"Why this and , not (insert)"!"
Yet more aeroplanes. Why no (insert)"!
It should have been (insert)and not yet another (insert).
We all know its iconic/a guaranteed best seller/no line up would be complete without it/it's the_______ Anniversary of___________. Surely this must mean a kit of (insert)"!
I look forward to that almost as much as I look forward to the announcements!
Allan
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20 hours ago, TEXANTOMCAT said:
I think Allan might have nailed this- the lack of ordnance may well be a clue to a future Royal Navy Resupply Set maybe with deck tractor and baseplate? It would work with the Phantom and Bucc and maybe SHAR with a mixed bundle of RN whizzbangs....
TT
From a personal point of view and, while not necessarily deciding to purchase same, I would prefer a stores only RN/RAF set with no vehicles etc. Vehicles would (for me anyway) just be a waste of plastic and end up in my bin. The stores of course would be able to be used on several models. A separate kit of RN/RAF specific ancillary vehicles/ground handling equipment would, I think prove popular with those interested in such things.
Allan
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On 10/28/2019 at 7:21 PM, Adam Poultney said:
I still suspect the Vulcan will come, but I would guess release would be between October and December. I imagine Airfix will want to sell off the last kits that they have of the old one if they're releasing a new one.
I would definitely be happy with a Washington (B29) but a tad disappointed because that would mean no Vulcan...
https://www.airfix.com/uk-en/avro-vulcan-b-mk2-xh558-vulcan-to-the-sky-gift-set-1-72.html
You may be disappointed. At least for this year. I very much doubt if they would be making a new kit while taking pre orders for the old one. They may indeed try to sell off old stock but, that might not work because I suspect most would hold out for the new kit. I would suggest therefore no Vulcan (from Airfix anyway) prior to 2021
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4 hours ago, The Tomohawk Kid said:
Airfix are still taking pre-orders for a re-issue of their VttS boxing, which according to the below is due winter 2019/20. Just saying, like.
https://www.airfix.com/uk-en/avro-vulcan-b-mk2-xh558-vulcan-to-the-sky-gift-set-1-72.html
Tommo.
Noticed that too. I think that possibly knocks the "new tooled Vulcan" theory/wish/fantasy/faint hope (delete as required) squarely on the head!. However, a change of decal options at least would have been nice. Guess there is life in the old girl yet.
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7 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:
If Airfix was smart, they would just buy bagged shots from Hasegawa and stick them in a red box with updated decals and instructions. While they’re at it, they could include the A-4L parts as well.
That is a good idea. I am in fact hoping that, with the importing/ repackaging of some of the Academy range that Airfix might extend this to other subjects/ ranges.
Allan
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13 hours ago, iainpeden said:
Going back to the discussion around box art giving a clue, it's obvious that an F-4J will be announced. Popular and readily available to LIDAR.
Actually and, with all due respect, I don't think it is obvious at all. I think it's more wishful thinking but, that is,after all, half the fun of this discussion!
No doubt the nay sayers will point to the multiple options available elsewhere but, with other companies churning them out like sausages, why not Airfix?
It's a good choice of subject and, undoubtedly a very popular one. My preference would personally be for the long nosed E/F/G variants.
I guess Airfix could produce multi option kits for the short nosed Phantoms?
Allan
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57 minutes ago, Geoff_B said:57 minutes ago, Geoff_B said:
The limited armament options (why provide an open bomb bay when you don't provide bombs to fill it !) makes me worry about the RAF boxing, it will have the bulged Bombay door, the universal pylons and the RWR for the Tail, the streamlined upper drop tank parts and that doesn't leave a great deal of room for alternative stores unless its just going to be the Gulf War fit. Anything more would require an additional sprue which would then put it up in price.
I still have 11 of the kits but some of these will have to await on the aftermarket boys to do the mods to allow an earlier S2, and a later S2D to be built along with expanding the armament options.
Have to agree with you here. The rather miserable load provided is a big disappointment and, actually make the aircraft look naked.! Not a lot of bang for the Bucc! (with the apologies for the terrible pun!
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An extra sprue providing a much more comprehensive range of ordnance may indeed have pushed the price up a bit but, surely nowhere near as much as a load of aftermarket accessories? Buying a load of aftermarket frippery could double the cost of the kits
That's fine for those that can afford it but I am not personally inclined to fork out extra money for items that ( in my view at least) should be included in the kit. My choice of course. At least I have recourse to a fairly well stocked spares box.
Lovely kit but, let down ( again , in my view )on this one aspect. Even the Phantom was better off!
Going back a few years,I was distinctly unimpressed with Airfix suggesting that we buy ( at another £14.99 on top of a £24.99 kit) a Bomber Resupply Set just provide something to hang on the bomb bay. Quite apart from the fact that one would then end up with load of potentially unwanted vehicles. Even the old 1981 Lancaster had a full bomb load!
Allan
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Airfix 2020
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Kit is still readily available. I got one last year for about £37. You get a lot of plastic for your money. Parts count is modest but, I don't mind that.
Fit of parts is, well, challenging!
. However, worth it I reckon. It is a gorgeous looking aircraft. Guess it won't be in the Airfix list though! 
Allan.