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no comparison with AZ Spitfire Mk XVIII or Mk XIV just because the fuselage on nose area is exactly the same of the Mk 22/24 previously seen and compared with Xtrakit.
Xtrakit perfect matches the SAM Modellers Datafile drawings by Jacek Jackiewicz.
Ciao
Giovanni
I saw certain Polish drawings, profiles, decals etc.. Everything from Polland is famous by its roughly approximate accuracy. Though, on paper it looks very... appealing.
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Not bad Sev - some of those longerons are a little wobbly though :sour grapes:
The same worried me at first, therefore I glued using CA in the first two attempts (XII #1 and V.c). As I got assured, there's not too much to see and compare straight lines with, I switched over to raw perchlorethylene or xylene.
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Good stuff! You've definitely nailed that cockpit colour, looks spot-on.
Happened purely by-the-way, mixed from random amount of Hu:95 or 97 with 78. Perhaps, next time I'll use Hu:90 with drop 78, as, after some shading, cockpit looks a little dark.
Honestly said, I'm rather proud of detailing cockpit for the first time without piece of Eduard, perhaps only part I'll use, will be belts, as I'm somehow getting lazy.
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So, finished...
Not one of my best - the undercarriage doesn't look quite the thing - but all in all I'm happy enough with it.
Looks quite good! What a pity you didn't took your time on wheels and UC. Could possibly look better. BTW... Have you seen my XII's dashboard?
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Should I put the fusselage together?
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I've used two methods with variable success - one is to glue lengths of sprue round the inside of the well, then when the wings are joined, pack milliput into the gap to make the well. The other is to glue a piece of plastic cars over the well, then drill out the opening - this has ther advantage of letting you do differenmt levels of depth by onlu drilling out the 'round' portion, leaving the 'leg' area with a shallow well.
What do others do?
Raw result - will be puttied and sanded. And, yes, I omitted stiffeners.
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Some progress on seats...
Throttle quadrant (piece of sprue, wire etc.)
Oxygen hose...
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I just got hold of the 'upgraded tool' Italeri 1/48th Spitfire IXc kit, based on the old Occidental one but with new beer barrels added. Aside from the fact that I think the beer barrel one was a IXe(?), the bruttish nose/spinner (I have the Rons Resin replacement that was distributed to correct this in Australia), and the slightly wide windshield, does anyone have experience of these kits. I know the Hasegawa IX is too short, Airfix is a load of rubbish and I don't like the ICM ones, but the Occidental Spitfires (and the Texan they did) have quite nice details. I'd like to use one for the basis of a PR.XI which fixes the nose and canopy problems at least. Thanks.
Colin
Got pair of Occ as gift. Nose needs a bit of surgery. The main problem might be easily corrected by
1. cut off lower cowling just by the line between bottom and side cowling.
2. cut in front of exhaust, move the cut section a few mm (sorry, I grew up in metric system) up,
3. sand off excessive styrene on the bottom line of side cowling (simply said, rearrange the straight joint line)
4. Add bottom cowling
5. some sanding, puttying on upper cowling,
And we are there.
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Paint it black!
I wanna see it tainted, tainted black
Black as night, black as coal
I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky
I wanna see it tainted, tainted, tainted, tainted black!
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Just a little coloring of IP. From lack of better camera, I chose two least unusable pics...
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Just a quick update.
How should I finish this? Gloss, satin or matt?
Semigloss is better over hard gloss finish - gloss shows too much faults. And hard matt is somehow unrealistic, assuming the era, when these planes served.
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That's never 1/72! Cheater.
Thanks for kind words.
Well, it was real strong temptation to put there some Ed's etch. (Un)fortunately, it didn't fit, and forced me to push my limits.
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Suffering from a bout of insomnia last night, I had a good run up on the kit and got this far...
Now someone's going to tell me that Mk22's had black 'pits.
I see unpainted floor!!!
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Dashoboard... Not convincing, but in such scale I don't think it's worth to spend more time on it.
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Some little progress:
Painting cokpit greygreen. Mixed from some Hu:95 and 78, as Hu:78 looked too dark.
And, because of this...:
...I made some masks for rationalising putty work:
And something refreshing from Airfix
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Furnishing cockpit a little from household items.
And cleaned instrument panel bulkhead, and gave the IP matt black coat.
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Smoke much?
It's just week collection...
Kidding... I collected it during months in basement, as we had certain difficulties with boiler's gas ignition. (Flame outs, combustion passing thru collector into mixer... Terrible), until I've been able to collect spare parts and repair it. So, just yesterday I took it upstairs, in the intention to really _dig_ out the content.
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Looking good Severus, got that kit to make myself.
That paint lid really didn't want to come open, did it!
Thanks!
Well the lid seemed... Persistent, but I didn't force it, just took bigger screwdriver.
BTW, I looked through my stash. I got some five or six. One simply isn't enough.
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
First steps in the new kit...
Little addendum...
Added reinforcements to down corners of bulkhead. Just waiting to set the glue (trichlorethylen), then cut to shape and ready to paint,
Also, I decided to cut the door, as I found some more vac canopies in my stash. Comparing with V.c from Sword, XII seems somehow bald in cockpit. No map case, no throttle quadrant, no fuel valves, no gear valves... Nothing, that can't be solved by some stretched sprue, some wires, etc.
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Hi all!
Recently bought Sword's Spitfire V.c looked very familiar to me, and, as I checked the Xtrakit's box of XII, I found info of mould maker being the same.
As I bought some pair of XII's for half the price of recent V.c, in the intention to kitbash nose of old Airfix with XII's fusselage, I changed my mind, as I realised I have no any decent griffon spit in collection, and even no seafire.
Currently started XII (I had read the rules!) will be finished along with GB, let's say, I use it as testing platform...
I intend to build following birds:
- Spitfire Mk.XII (EN221, December 1942, trials against EN222) Point of interest - EN221 was probably only XII with eliptic wing!
- Seafire XV (PR362, 5H, 806th sq., HMS Glory, 1947)
- Seafire XVII (probably SX273, So5O, 709th sq. RNAS St. Merryn, 1945)
Just a pic of EN221 found on the net:
Just to give you a taste, what you should expect:
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What you say of course is true, and we should not run away with the idea that accuracy and price are somehow necessarily related, as we can see by examining a 1/48 Hasegawa Spit IX (currently listed at £32.49 at Hannants) or 1/24 Trumpeter Spitfire (£81.70).
What definitely correlates with price is the parts count, and while that may be related to level of detail in some case, it says little about accuracy.
With hasegawa - the price IMHO doesn't correlate with parts count, at best, I think, it correlates with just trying to push limits, what modellers would be able to pay for. Recent offerings of F-16D of IAF, based on the old F-16B/D with a few bits inside for three times higher price of original release, are just crazy.
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Having a fiddle around with the Mk1& 9 as I am shortly going to be building a Spitfire or three.
Now- HOW can Airfix do this;
Eminently acceptable surface detail on the Mk9, cockpit and small details from hell
Utterly rubbish surface detail on the Mk1- brilliant cockpit and other details- AAAARRRGHHHHHHH
Also, the wing root chord is more on the Mk9- huh?
Tell me, dear, do you consider yourself as modeller? If you are unsatisfied with recent Airfix offerings, why don't you obtain some CMR spits? They are considered as being almost holy grail
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I've used two methods with variable success - one is to glue lengths of sprue round the inside of the well, then when the wings are joined, pack milliput into the gap to make the well. The other is to glue a piece of plastic cars over the well, then drill out the opening - this has ther advantage of letting you do differenmt levels of depth by onlu drilling out the 'round' portion, leaving the 'leg' area with a shallow well.
What do others do?
In the scale 1:72, gracefully I leave the leg area as is, as there's not so much to see. And, concerning the wheel well, I simply put the wing together, then I cut the strip of styrene, and glue it around the wheel well. When the glue is cured, I take plade or razor saw, and cut what's protruding from the well. Fast, simple.
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Out of curiosity I painted my Spitfire in a shade of blue lighter than the as then shortly to be standardised PRU blue. (I used WEM enamels as the starting point)
I'm not sure this looks light enough for K9791 in the above photo, but when I put it next to the squadron codes that are known to be medium sea grey the level of contrast actually seems to be about right. I notice a lot of other photos of aircraft painted PRU blue (after it became an official colour) appear suprisingly light, so maybe the camera/film of the time didn't pick up the shade well for some reason? Either way, whilst every fibre of my being says this is too dark, the logic kind of dictates I might have it about right!
phew, no wonder people don't model PRU machines often!
Canopy on next. Vacform should fit without much trouble- I checked before painting... honest
Will
The shade of the paint somehow reminds old Humbrol 124 - Petroleum Blue.
Spitfire 22/24 and Seafire FR.47
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My bet is, that up to main longeron it's graygreen, up from longeron to canopy it might be black.