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Alexei stopэ, as I read here: http://zabmodels.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=464&p=2#p8063 Monday, February 26, 2018 10:07:29 Bertych Administrator Posts: 2672 " The day before yesterday I talked to Valera Maksimenko" in there was an opportunity to talk with Valery Maksimenko, as I understand he is a technician of the MiG-23MLD, he must remember when used R-73 .....or do You want to say ..... ???? Sorry if the my question is stupid and tactless ... Considering how many have been repainted, it will be a miracle if you's restore all of its color options. B.R. Serge

Pete it's unrealistic, Trumpeter wrong: http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/16.Shema-variantov-podveski-vooruzhenij-Su-15TM.-589x600.png ...but who knows, Su-15 have made surprises: http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2.Su-15TM-s-podveshennymi-UPK-23-250-i-blokami-UB-32.jpg http://nacekomie.ru/forum/files/201204/15021_78fcdde68ba63f7b639c81c79a2bf789.jpg B.R. Serge

There is an opinion that the Su-21 should be called an attack aircraft Sukhoi T-58Sh: based on the Su-15 .... but this is not certain! 😁 Some modelers even made a model of such a Su-21: http://alternathistory.com/alternativnye-shturmoviki-su-21-sssr/ B.R. Serge

For best illustrations my previous posting. This is what I had to face when assembling Academy nose: Green is the "green squadron putty". At the junction of the parts, the plastic is relatively thin, given that the joint was not ideal, I had to work a lot with sandpaper, this led to the fact that, due to the aggressive effect of the glue, in some places the plastic became soft and fell inside, which required putty and long drying. Therefore, do not repeat my mistakes, be very careful in assembling these parts. The next problem is the bottom of the fuselage. I do not blink how I did it, but I had to make an insert from a strip of plastic - in the photo it is white: Also Hobbycraft/Academy made the inner l panel line on the tail, which should be outside like on Revell for F-89D, or they should not be at all for F-89J, as I think. If I'm right, putty on the tail is Your friend! Of course, maybe these are not problems with the model, but with my hands that grow from the place where I'm sit and not from my shoulders....well, whether it is or not, we will learn from Your assembly of this model. But have good news! Revell does not have such an imitation of a piano loop, and it is very difficult to make it, but Academy/Hobbycraft has it! Also, Academy / Hobbycraft has a better relief cockpit interior than Revell, which will save You money on buying an aftermarket cockpit detail set from Pavla or save money and time to search for a rare photo-etching from Eduard. A reasonable question - why haven't I made this model yet? Because I firstly bought Academy, then I bought Revell on good price, and next was aftermarket cockpit detail set from Pavla, and exhaust detail set from Pavla...and in general shark mouth version USAF F-89D from Revell my more likely than Woody Woodpecker ANG F-89J from Academy, but Academy box art more impressive than Revell box art, as for my. B.R. Serge

Pete, I think shouldn't hide in private messages what can be used by other modelers, especially since Kanga company that released this decal has long ceased to exist. Translate version. 1. Su-9B Air Defense USSR, airfield Nebit-Dag, Turkhmenia, 1971 year, aircraft used for flight young pilot after flying school; 2. Su-9B Air Defense USSR, underground airfield "Mirnyi-14" near cosmodrome "Severnyi"; 3. Su-9B used in intercept spy plane U-2 Garry Powers 1 May 1960 year; 4. Su-9B used as weather scout at one of the airfields of Belarus in the late 70s. 5. Su-9B from the warehouse of decommissioned aircraft on airfield Marinovka, Stavropol VVAUL (Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots) 1986 year Stencil on decal no reading. The original feature of the decal is the paper instruction glued to the decal paper and the fact that the lacquer substrate of the decal reacts with white spirit. The manufacturer, in a conversation with me, simply recommended to get wet the white spirit decal applied to the model and the decal should be welded into the paint as painted. Other Su-9 decal: - A-model - MSV Moldova (late version UNDA): - A-model Su-9U: (One decal from my Su-11, one decal from my Su-9U....and one decal I bought separately in a local hobby shop for some funny 0.2 $. Stencil on this decal reading: And parent of Your Cooperative, UNDA that started it all: B.R. Serge P.S. Of course, , if You want to discuss the situation here, I will always be happy to talk to You at PM.

@stever219 my previous posting was sarcastic. There are many funny emoticons at the end of the sentence. 😉 And the main thesis of my previous posting is just this one: Therefore, all attempts (not Yours!) to pull the Me-163 (completely rocket fighter) by the ears to S.R. 53 (an aircraft with a turbojet engine and an additional rocket engine!) looks very funny to me and does not cause anything except sarcasm (directed not at You) on my part. I am well aware within the framework of the available information on the Internet about the work on the S.P.53 long before the appearance of the model from AZ model: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12065&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 B.w. on second page topic on the link box my S.R.53: And of course I know about sad story Miles M.52 from Discovery channel film "Planes that never flew" which was shown in the 90s and in which, by the way, there was a series about the development of S.R.53 - S.R. 177.😉 B.R. Serge

Yes, Pete too thick in in front view. I don't remember exactly, but in my opinion, the rest of the geometry is not bad. In principle, in this topic have compassion all comparison of all three known drawings for the Su-9 from Zlinek magazine, V.Pankov (M-hobby magazine ) and Zenkin (Aviation and Time magazine) , http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46318&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 and what is most important in this topic, these drawings are reduced to a normal view in length and width, because in the magazines themselves the drawings are printed with errors due to printing. Therefore, drawings should always be checked for compliance with the basic geometric dimensions. In general, I recommend that You look through the pictures in this topic in full http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46318&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 , this is an excellent collection of information on the Su-9 and an example of a wonderful conversion of the Su-9 from the Su-7BKL on a 48th scale. Most full stencil on Su-9 have this decal: (Warning! This ad may not work and prices may be out of date!) http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_65327.html and I have two such decals, and I would gladly give you such a decal ... but You are well aware of the problems for which I cannot do it. The most I can do for You is to take a more detailed photo of the decal itself and the instructions. The decal contains a variant that participated in the well-known unsuccessful (fortunately for the pilot!) Su-9 attack on the U-2 Garry Powers, the Su-9 air defense Baikonur cosmodrome and my favorite http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_71293.html "DMB-84 May Donbass"/ "Yury and Lena was here" (analoge "Kilroy was here")😁 which never flew in this form, because the nose-art paint by hooligan-soldiers guarding the storage base and some madness-romantic loving couple Yura and Lena. B.R. Serge

Hi, all. As I promise - Bereznyak Isaev (other version name Ближний Истребитель- Blizhniy Istrebitel /Short range fighter ) BI. It's my FOUR attempt build model this aircraft. First was finished, but it's was BI-1 from SportIndustriya. This kit was wrong so went to the garbage. On attempt number two, I think I spilled glue, and he went where the first one was. Attempt number three was almost over ... but as always, drawings appeared, after which it turned out that the model was not as accurate as we would like. Then a new model was bought for attempt number FOUR. What I say ....the bug turned out to be small, but very smelly....😁 On photo: - Two box attempt number TWO and attempt number THREE: - attempt number THREE with attempt number FOUR: (match for compared size this little bug): (Black and gray stains are such poor quality plastic.) The current state of the kit: On fuselage don't have fin - don't worry it is not lost, it lies apart. All technical details, history, drawings, documentary filming e.t.c will be latter when officialy started this GB. In the meantime, until November 14, I will continue to rivet the Mirage III V... on which almost half of the hatches and panel line were missed, which I had to catch from the photo. B.R. Serge

The model over which I am thinking - to buy or not to buy? Therefore, I will look behind the build, perhaps she will help me make a decision. B.R. Serge

Of course compatible like the MiG-23P Interesting moment. It is necessary for Alexey @GROWLER to ask at his forum among those who were there. I think that the choice in the suspension did not always depend on the pilot, do not forget the R-73 was a missile with a thrust vector, even if its debris fell into the hands of the United States and NATO, they would be very happy. Therefore, the ban on use was removed, the missile was loaded under the MiG-23MLD, before that it was in the warehouse, as I think. As for the advantage over the F-16, the MiG-23MLD already had it thanks to the R-24, because there was no medium-range missile in the F-16 arsenal at that time. In addition, the MiG-23MLD had a IRST, which the F-16 did not have. The characteristics of the radar and vertical / horizontal maneuverability were also at the level of the F-16, and its accelerating characteristics even surpassed the F-16. Therefore, the fact that the MiG-23MLD could not stand the F-16 was connected only with the administrative ban on hostilities, because at official levels it was stated everywhere that only goverment Afghan troops were fighting in Afghanistan against the mujahideen supported by the West, China and some Arab countries. Such a concept, as it is now clear, was erroneous, for which one should thank gorbachev and co., as well as his follow-up, one should thank for this: Because as it was said in one literary work: "Devastation begins in the heads" B.R. Serge

You don't understand....all this conspiracy theories as "What would we all do without all these drawings of Luft '46 painted on paper napkins by german designers in internment camps after the 2WW?" speaks to the contrary! 😁😁😁 In fact, all attempts by the famous germans designers after the war to do something good and serious ( Pulki II, HF-24, HA-300*) just burst like a soap bubble, but conspiracy theorists usually prefer to ignore this!😉😁 B.R. Serge __________ * - this one would not have taken off at all if not for the Indian test pilot, who refused to fly on it until Professor Messerschmitt corrected all his remarks, of which there were about 50 (or 100, I don’t remember exactly). Among the shortcomings were just sheer "trifles", like the fuel poured down from the aircraft tanks😁...e.t.c, of course Indian test pilot didn’t want to burn alive at work!

My vote J-8B & Su-15, because J-8B as controversies Su-15. It's very close interceptors for each other. Of course more interesting J-8 (without letter!) v.s. Mikoyan E-152A, but nobody does clear J-8. 😢 B.R. Serge

Interesting subject. I have Poland version old Airfix, but in edition 90s with very cute boxart by contemporary Polish artist Vrybel. Of course AZ model best than Airfix or his Poland copy. B.R. Serge

WOW! Old good ESCI satellite killer! I was looking for him for a long time in 80-90, but he never got to me. B.R. Serge

This from old Hasegawa with Red Devils? B.R. Serge

Main problem fat wing, in one of the Russian reviews, the wing of this Su-9 model was called "like the TB-3"! In other unlike short-run A-model it is a full steel press-form model as Hasegawa, Revell, Monogram e.t.c. The lack of stencils in the decals of this repack is a complete disaster! The real plane was actually strewn with a stencil. B.R. Serge

Are You have P.1 in You collection? B.R. Serge UPD. Understand. In my collection also not P.1 and it saddens me too, because without the prototype of Lightning - P.1 it is impossible to show the evolution of the family.

Be careful with nose assembling, because my Academy ate a lot of putty in this place. And yes, it's Hobbycraft repack, and yes Revell other model. Differences? Revell more detailed, but have some different in geometry fuselage tail area - Revell more thin than Academy/Hobbycraft. Who right I don't know. B.R. Serge

Hi, Pete! I have absolutely identical model, which now I do not know what to do with after I bought myself Meng. Nevertheless, I will look behind Your build. B.R. Serge P.S. Sad news of Your "adventure". I hope all be fine! P.P.S. What a nice cat art on this photo: ?

I take a seat in the auditorium. Of course, Hasegawa is not my choice, my choice is the new Airfix, but I hope that I will learn a lot about Lightning in this build. B.R. Serge

Then best choice Airfix, because quality decal Academy with Argentinean markings it's scary-scared horror. Or if shortly old Academy decal - 💩. For me, Heller is more preferable in most cases, even despite the raised panels lines. More nice old school style. In addition, for Неller has good photo-etching. In principle, I have both models, and I even made a photo comparison of these models, including with two different drawings, but I cannot remember where I saved these photos. B.R. Serge

Incorrectly. Italeri and Academi have the same spruce.Italeri / Academi has errors in geometric accuracy compared to Heller / Airfix, which is preferable but has external panel lines. B.R. Serge

All ways have Google translate, on 85% it's correct work. MiG-23 shot down F-16? It's mysterious stories. I'm afraid we'll never know what really happened. Officially, the USSR considered two versions: - F-16 shot down its own second F-16; - The F-16 jumped forward and was hit by a MiG-23 bomb .... a 100 kilogram bomb was enough for him to destroy it just like blanks, even without an explosion. Unofficially, also was versions, about the fact that when the MiGs dived at the target, the F-16 simply due to its mistake slipped forward, hitting the MiG-23 sight ... the pilot who simply pulled the trigger and then the GSh-23 gun did its job. Since the pilots of the MiG-23 always had a full gun ammunition and always used the gun when attacking ground targets, it is not possible to determine who fired at the airfield by ammunition consumption. The probable hero was silent in order to avoid possible troubles, because everyone remembered when the command had forbidden to shoot down the F-16, despite the fact that he was already in a stable capture of MiG-23 missiles ... this MiG-23MLD number 64 then received an emblem on the air intake F -16 in the reticle gun sight and a vulture with an R-60 missile sitting on the sight. The answer should be known to the Pakistanis, who stole the F-16 wreckage from Afghanistan to their own Pakistan. But in all cases, the answer is not beneficial to them ..... admit that he was shot down by his F-16? Stupid and funny! To admit that the F-16 itself ran into the cannon fire of the MiG-23? Also a silly and funny situation! To admit that the F-16 was accidentally shot down by a bomb? This is generally a nomination for the Funny Curiosity of the Year award. If you so want to have a MiG-23 officially shot down something, that is, a MiG-23 that shot down two Iranian helicopters ... there even the scheme of this attack got into Russian textbooks on air combat ... this MiG-23 has an emblem with a vulture holding a helicopter by the tail. 😉 All MiG-23 MLD 120 IAP was scrapped, 😢@GROWLER live witness this because he was after cutting at the aircraft storage base. Only the emblems were preserved, which were cut with circular saws together with the cladding panels.Now these panels with emblems are kept in the Squadron History Museum. B.R. Serge

From police report: "And, when I asked about the money for the delivery, the dog just closed the door in front of me!" 😁😁 B.R. Serge

"When working in border areas, a pair or a MiG-23MLD unit with a PTB-800 was sent without fail. The fighters carried two R-24R and two R-60 missiles, combining weapons for long-range and short-range maneuverable combat. In addition to missiles, a full ammunition load for the gun was mandatory. Covering was carried out by the method of screening in the air with watch in zones on the most probable directions of enemy attack. The search for the air enemy was conducted independently with the help of a heat direction finder and a radar sight, since the areas of operation were usually shaded by mountains from the observation radars of air bases. This autonomous technique has been nicknamed "my own AWACS"." From article: "Fighter MiG-23 in Afghanistan" https://topwar.ru/21611-istrebiteli-mig-23-v-afganistane.html Yeah....😁 The method of applying "graffiti" to the MiG's, Afghanistan, Bagram: http://uploads.ru/3iTKE.jpg http://uploads.ru/h9cRz.jpg photo from most detailed topic about MiG-23MLD 120 IAP: http://zabmodels.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=464 B.w. about these sharkmouth MiG, can tell in more detail@GROWLER who is an expert on the thematic. @SC2015, just don't get confused sharkmouth MiG-23MLD from 120 IAP: http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_14.jpg http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_15.jpg with sharkmouth MiG-23MLD Center Combat Training in Mary airbase (Soviet Aggressor): http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_34.jpg http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_34_b1.jpg http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_35.jpg http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/1_35_b1.jpg It's different sharkmouth's, and it's different squadron's! 😉 B.R. Serge