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I once got stuck over the top of a Harrier seat while trying to change the MDC Det and Housing in the canopy!
Been there done that!
When I was on 4(AC) one of the guys was struggling doing this job, and managed (somehow) to take out the split pin and remove the clevis pin holding the roller on top of the sear instead of the linkage to the sear. The result, a loud noise a shattered canopy and a very deaf techie for a week or so. He was lucky that the canopy perspex was designed to blow outwards so it didn't get him!
Selwyn
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On my quest to make a tornado and buccaneer refuel from a victor, I came a cross a picture....
Could someone tell me what colours the buccaneer, and the tornado should be painted, and also what type of green JP233's are?
Thanks... GRRRRR I hate being colour blind
In this picture the Tornadoes and Buccaneers are in BS 381c Hue 638 Dark sea grey/Hue 241 Dk green Camo. the JP233 was Hue 224 Deep Bronze Green.
Selwyn
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Guys and Gals,
looking for a picture of a Sea Venom on the Catapult ready to launch, I am building a diorama of this and need a good reference picture.
Selwyn
TIA
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OK Its a dumb question - but are these pylons the same , or simliar to the Tornado's outer pylons? - from what I remember , they look simliar...
and yes I have the 32nd Hawk bug too!
Definately not the same as Tornado pylons! they are very different in size. Also
The Hawk uses 119 Ejector release units (ERU) which accepts Bail type store lugs (These are the ones that are like screw in loops) wheras the RAF tornado uses Light Duty Ejector Release Units (LEDRU) that only accept MACE lugs which are like square blocks and do not require any swaybracing, so a Tornado pylon does not have swaybraces.
Selwyn
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Now thats Gorgeous!
By the way my pet hate! its not the 315th Sqn. its Three One Five Squadron. in the RAF squadrons are never described as first or second or whatever. being the "three Hundred and fifteenth" or some such we leave that sort title of things to Americans !
Selwyn
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Thanks guys for your comments.
Hi Selwyn, thanks for the information. I am totally out of my depth here, in fact I am out of my depth in most subjects unless it's a 2011 era Airbus A319 and even then my knowledge can be challenged! I did the Tilly in the RAF Blue scheme as she just shouted out from the side of the box, 'Build Me!!' I thought it was the most attractive scheme and so did that one, but from someone who can hardly tell the difference between a Tiger and a Sherman, I'm not likely to know about colour schemes of RAF airfield vehicles...
So if I wanted to create a WWII diorama scene including one of these (I have a spare as included in the 1/48th Mosquito kit) what scheme should I use and should the decals be used as I have done? I'd also like to include a fule bowser as well as a few figures so am just practicing at the moment!Hi Dick, yep, the Citroen is next! I've got the Kettenkraftrad as well, but I think I'll be building a few of these 1/48th vehicles as they really do fall together.
Busdriver, I was just going to give you some info but "The Modeller" beat me to it! follow his advice and you can't go far wrong!
Selwyn
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Lovely tilly Busdriver! a great job, well executed.
Unfortunately like many of us have done before (holding my head in hands as I speak!) you have fallen into the "follow the Tamiya painting instructions trap" which basically means you end up with a wartime built vehicle, with a pre war paint scheme, and mid war markings.
All RAF vehicles post 1941 were painted an earth brown colour (not aircraft Dark Earth!) with either black or brown disrupted camoflage, this changed to olive drab in 1944 but they didnt go back to RAF blue until 1947-8.
Please believe me I am not having a go at your fantastic build but trying to issue a warning to future tilly builders!
Tamiya should be hung for their atrocious research.
Selwyn
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Wow! That's going to be difficult in 1:76. How did they tie them down, straps? Containers may have been fitted with anti-tamper devices. I considered opening up the back on my TCHD Mk1 but didn't know enough detail. All the best.
Keith
Keith
In actual fact 14 cargo chains per container if I remember. but I am doing a copout as I am modelling it chains off ready to lift by gantry!
Selwyn
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Your link doesn't work, maybe you meant this one tho:
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media...-jpg-15702.aspx
Yes just like that!
Selwyn
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Is it me?
After many years of model building it appears that I never realised that the top of the canopy opened on "car door" tiffies. And I can't recall any built up models of this aircraft ever depicting or having this feature.
Have I been missing something? Or is it just not common knowledge?
see link below
http://www.flightglobal.com/imagearchive/I...lleryName=Photo Archive/1939-1945&Image=FA_18514s
Selwyn
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P.E. No.1 HA/NIV/387, and the "Desert Pink" is Z.I. HA/NIV/386; and, no, i haven't a clue what it means.
Edgar
The British used the term NIV (and maybe still do, I left the service in the 1990's!), for items that have no officially designated Stores section and Reference number. Its usually applied to local purchase items.
The organisation (Station/regiment/ command ) buying the item would give it a local stores reference number so it could be taken on charge and use the normal supply system for issue. so for instance HA/ NIV/386 would equate to the 386th local purchase item by that organisation. (HA?)
So the paint was probably purchased/manufactured in the middle east.
Selwyn
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Sorry Selwyn, pressed the wrong button. Thanks for the info. Still not certain what the items were behind the cab. Anyway, did you complete your model?
Keith
Keith. Not finished yet, Buzy building a container to put in the open loadbed.
Selwyn
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Hi Wayne
The new Italeri kit should be out some time soon(ish) The old airfix B(I)6 is still knocking around on evil bay USA. You could use the new Airfix B(I)8 with a B.2 nose and back mod the engines if you really need to do one in a hurry but I'd just hang on a bit to see if the new Italeri kit turns up soon.
John
if i remember correctly there was something seriously wrong with the nose profile on this kit, thats why it didn't sell well, and was eventually converted to B57
Selwyn
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Just found this picture.
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1013071/
Tony

I wouldnt trust this picture, it looks a bit of a "Mix and match" airframe, FAW 2 Booms and a Black FAW 1 Raydome.
Could be a innapropriate colour scheme.
Selwyn
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looking for a model paint match for the khaki colour used on British army vehicles in WW1
Anyone help?
Selwyn
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Thats a pretty Paveway II a pity you didn't do one with bail lugs for use on Typhoon!
Selwyn
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Hi Selwyn
Happy New Year. Appreciate this is five months old but having undertaken a random internet search on an old subject of mine, namely the TCHD Mk1, I came across this discussion. You've probably finished your model but I'm almost certain that newspaper photo's from mid 1985 show the the rear of the vehicle to have three circular lights side by side. The photo's were of poor quality.
Can you or any of your colleagues please tell me what the box and vertical straps were for on the load bed cover immediately behind the cab? My long held belief is that they are part of the mechanism for drawing back the rear element of the load bed hood for loading purposes.
Keith
Keith Not sure I understand what you mean by vertical straps, do you mean behind the cab? if so they were not part of the canopy system whatever you mean.
To open the load area, the rear canopy was wound back over the front canopy(towards the cab! )using a chain system. The front canopy was permanently fixed. To open the canopy two crank handles were inserted onto square drives on each side of the vehicle at the rear, near the rear doors. the rear canopy was unlocked from inside the load area.(accessed through the rear doors) The TCHD could carry up to two containers, the first was dropped in and then slid back under the front canopy and then the second dropped in behind it. (obviously the reverse to unload!).
Selwyn
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Can anyone point me in the direction of references detailing what armour/vehicles were used by the New West German Army in the 1950's?
Selwyn
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Here's a question for any ex Harrier ground crew or other experts out there.
Were any Harrier T-2/4/8s' ever fitted with the ferry configuration of two 330 g tanks on the inboard pylons and two 100g drop tanks (emptied and for transport only) on the outboard pylons ?
Would this combination have been possible on the early Ts' ?
I've several photos of GR3s' with this configuration and photos of Ts' with 330s' inboard but no photos of Ts' with the above configuration.
Anyone found out the dimensions of those 330g tanks by the way ?
The short answer is Yes!
When I was stationed at Gutersloh in 1980/82 (4 AC Sqn) we would deploy to Decimommanu in Sardinia in Jan/Feb for Armament Practice Camp and we usually took the T4 to permit weapon delivery training, which would be fitted with 330gal tanks, with the 100 gal on the Outboard pylons for the ferry out/back. The 100gal tanks were empty (the outer pylons were not plumbed for fuel) and to get the tanks to fit to the pylon we would have to remove the two fuel transfer tubes that projected from the top of the tank. These were stowed in the aircraft for ferry.
If I remember correctly we had an incident when the T4 was leaving Gutersloh one year as the engine "coughed" (birdstrike I think) badly on climbout. the pilot quite sensibly hit the clear aircraft bar to lose all stores and limped back to base with his dodgy engine. Unfortunately the two tanks scored a direct hit on a walled farm, and some happy German farmer had 660 gals of aviation fuel swilling around his farmyard.
The RAF had of course to clean it up and had to remove the contaminated topsoil from the yard. When the workers dug down a foot or so in the yard they found a cobbled surface which helped matters as this enabled them to clean down to this level. When the farmer saw the cobbles he was amazed. his family had apparently had the farm for several generations and they had no idea that this cobbled surface existed!
I believe that the T4 was also fitted with 330/100 gal configuration for the ferry, when they took part in Maple Flag 9 in Canada (Cold lake) in the early 80's.
Selwyn
ex 233 OCU / 4Sqn Armourer
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Hi All,
For those interested I have more pictures to share, they are Australian built Bristol Beaufort aircraft used by the RAAF.
The unidentified Beauforts are either Mk.VI or VII aircraft and were photographed at Nowra and Jervis Bay, Australia respectively during 1943. The Beaufort Mk VIII aircraft were photographed over Sydney, Australia during March of 1944.
You can also download 1800 x 1200 pixel and sometimes larger images of the same pics from one of my Picasa albums here; http://picasaweb.google.com/studioCox/RAAFHistorical#
All the Images are Copyright Expired and are now Public Domain, so enjoy!
Identified Mk.VIII aircraft shown are:
A9-515 A, Delivered, November 1943. Armament School. Storage, 29 November 1945. Sold to R.H. Grant Trading Company, January 1953.
A9-530 N, Delivered, December 1943. 15 Squadron RAAF. Storage, 2 October 1945. Struck Off Charge, August 1949.
A9-548 L, Delivered, December 1943. 15 Squadron RAAF. Struck Off Charge, August 1949.
A9-558 R, Delivered, December 1943. 15 Squadron RAAF. Storage, 1 October 1945. Struck Off Charge, August 1949.










It is also worth mentioning that many aircrew who flew in the forward parts of the Beaufort suffered hearing loss as a result of service in that aircraft.
Cheers,
Daniel.
As a historical aside, Its nice to see some great shots of the Beaufort under nose gun turret. This is the same turret as used on the Blenheim, that is so often mis identified as the Fraser Nash FN54. In fact the turret was designed by Bristol specifically for the Beaufort. As a under nose turret was urgently required for the Blenheim it was adopted for use pending the introduction of the specifically designed (for the Blenhiem) twin gun FN54 turret (thats the one with twin guns often misidentified as the FN54A. There was in fact never a FN 54A turret.)
As it was both turrets were pretty useless anyway, as thet were difficult to sight (backwards!) and had a poor field of fire. they occupied the escape hatch on both aircraft and had to be jettisoned in an emergency............The less said the better!
The FN54 was later developed further into the FN64 which was the Lancaster under fuselage mounting but its mounting was more commonly used for the H2S scanner. A few FN64 turrets were used later in the war when bomber command turned to daylight raids.
Selwyn
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Hello sir.
what about blue eric. how many a/c carried this .
Couldn't ell you which aircraft were fitted with blue Eric, but as all the equipment was fitted in one of the gunpods the only way of telling was if the gunpod had the wooden "bung" in the barrel opening.
Selwyn
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Nice build, lovely paint finish! wish I could get mine to look like that.
As an aside and with no criticism intended whatsoever to the builder, can I just point out for all those accuracy freaks / rivet counters out there that the RAF Typhoon does not carry Paveway III or AIM 9L in service.
Selwyn
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Just a few questions about warloads for GR3s in the Falklands. All the photos I've seem seem to show drop tanks with some sort of bomb on the outer pylons, although I know they did carry other ordinance - can anyone give me some specifics?
Did they always carry tanks on the inner pylons?
What are the '1000 lb' bombs often referred to (Paveways?)?
Would the rocket pods have been single or double installations (presumably on the outer pylons)?
And lastly, what would have been carried on the centre pylon?
Thanks again in advance

To answer your questions;
1. Yes, they always carried 100gal tanks on the inner pylons.
2. 1000lb bombs and Paveways are different. 1000lb bombs are a free fall bomb. Paveway (They used Paveway 1 in the Falklands) is a kit that you attach to the British 1000lb bomb to make it into a LGB. They only used a few LGB's in the Falklands without much success as they did not have a proper way of designating/illuminating the target for the bomb. 600lb BL 755 cluster bombs were used a lot as well.
3. The rocket pods were not SNEB pods, but Navy 2" rocket pods. SNEB could not be used off carriers as the 68mm SNEB rocket was not adequately shielded, and the emissions from naval radars could potentially fire the rocket motors in the pod on deck,(not reccomended!) Twin store carriers were not used. In all the years I worked on GR3/& T2/4. as an armourer, I never fitted, or saw a twin store carrier fitted.
4. The centreline pylon would have either a bomb or a recce pod fitted.
Selwyn
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An easy check for Harrier seats as compared to the Jaguar seat is the location of the Personal Equipment Connector (PEC, adonised green on the real seat). This is where the pilot plugs in his O2 and radio connections when he straps in.
On the Harrier GR3, & T2/4 the PEC is situated on the seat side adjacent to the pilots right thigh. On Jaguar the PEC is located higher up on the opposite side adjacent to the pilots rib area.on the model seats it looks like a small narrow oblong box.
Another thing is if you are going all out on accuracy is the seat strap system. in 1981/82 the strap system was changed on Harriers. The original system was a lap belt and negative "G" strap (up between the legs)that joined on a lap belt mounted quick release box, and two small straps went over the pilots shoulders attaching to his life vest /combined harness with Koch fasteners at the shoulder.
The modified system did away with the Koch fasteners and introduced long straps over the shoulders attaching to a modified quick release box on the lap belt. a green foam back pad was introduced at the same time.
Selwyn
(ex GR3 Armourer 233 OCU/4(AC) Sqn)










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Dennis
Spent many hours on 233 OCU and 4 (AC) fitting Seat aprons for solo sorties (loads at the OCU!
Selwyn