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I'm a big fan of group builds, and I think "the more, the merrier", so I voted for 3 months,
YMMV.


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I'm giving up modelling.....again............

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Done a bit more tonight on the W29.
Fuselage closed up, currently secured with my Berna clamps.

The front 'pit interior is assembled onto the wing centre section. I've given the wing upper surface a glosscoat for decalling
purposes.

Progress at last!
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Super little model!
If mine comes out half as good I'll be pleased!
(Don't care what anyone says about panel lines)I think the panel line debate is basically about our preferences, or "Modeller's Licence" (mine's a provisional)
It's like soft or hard edge demarcation in RAF WW2 camo schemes. Everyone knows that in the smaller scales,
you wouldn't be able to discern a true-to-scale soft demarcation but, if you make a hard-edged demarcation on,
say, a Mosquito, it doesn't look right, so modelers depict a soft edge that, if scaled up to full-size, shows a fade-out
from one colour to the other over about six inches(that's 15 cm for younger or continental modellers.)which is incorrect!
It's all a bit like the Philosophers' Union in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy who demanded rigidly defined
areas of doubt and uncertainty!

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Add me to this one! I've got an Eduard 1/48 Airacobra that really needs finishing!
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Woo-Hoo!
Looks like we got us-selves a whole wing of Fannums!
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Progress to report on the Emhar Mk.IV Tank!
The basic structure is taking shape nicely:


Found a minor glitch with the unditching beams:The parts are wrongly numbered onthe instruction sheet, so I puzzled
for a little while about how to match up these L-section girders to look right, until I realised that the only way it would work
was to swap the front sections over from side to side. Instant result!
The instruction sheet doesn't help much with the unditching beams, the diagram appears to suggest assembling them
in situ onto the structure of the tank, but I found it much easier to assemble each beam individually on my cutting mat
to create these:

I'll carry on after the cement has "cured".
The Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 hasn't progressed very much farther,
I've sanded the wing upper surfaces to reduce the"rib effect", repainted the lower surfaces in "unbleached linen"and achieved, completely by chance, what appears to me
to be a very effective slightly uneven "streakiness" to the finish.I've tried to photograph it, but my camera seems
unable to capture it, so I won't be showing them yet! Modelling time is at a premium at the moment, so it'll move on.......eventually! Plenty of time yet!

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Hi Gaz,
Welcome Aboard!!I pleased you decided to stay with this GB. As regards the ship(thats a wet thing that floats sea-water,usually covered in rust),could I suggest HM ships Montgomery or St Albans,that are under the Airfix label now.These are quite cheap kits,in 400th scale,so you shouldn`t much trouble with SWMBO.
I`ve built the Monty in the past,so if you need help with the colour scheme and details ,just contact me.
As to the Wimpy ,that would be Tip-Top,it was a type that saw lots of service over the Atlantic.
cheerio ,Phil
Thanks for that advice, Phil. Sounds good to me! Looking forward to this now, how long do we have to go till the start?............
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Looking sweet Giovanni

seconded wanting the P-12 re issued by revell
was such a cute and enjoyable build c1974 and glorious in blue and yellow plastic
Thirded! I think it was the first Matchbox kit I built, I'm sure mine was in dark green and yellow plastic though.....
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Well everyone just hold yer horses there!
Phil and i agreed that the eligibility of individual subjects that may fall outside the initial guidelines of the GB would be considered on their individual merit. As you seem to be fairly enthusiastic so far Gaz it would be a shame if you decided to pull out a full 9 months before the start of the GB!
Try us, we won't bite! I imagine that the actual guidelines will be a moveable feast until we get a good slew of prospective entries. It would be a shame to lose viable entries on the basis of dogmatic views of what fought where and in what capacity.
I would foresee this as more of a ship-oriented GB by virtue of the theatre (ie. a gurt big ocean!) but by all means make suggestions cos we want to encourage people to join in and maybe step out of the comfort zone a bit!
Alan
I'll carry on with this one then, I think I just got a bit flummoxed by all the controversy of theatre of war, eligibility of models and it seemed (at the time) to be easier to give up on it!!
So count me in, As I've said above, a Coastal Command Wellington was "plan B", but (hindsight is always 20/20) why wouldn't I model a ship? Must be years (donkey's years, even)
since I built a ship, I can't even remember what ship it was, oh yes, I helped my daughter build the Revell PT-109 when she was about 8-9 years old (she's 19 now!). I'll just need to find
a suitable kit, and then explain to SWMBO why I need to buy another one (I've promised her no more this year!- unless we visit a show!- or I find a really unmissable bargain!- or
the Airfix "Help for Heroes" Spitfire is released!) Any suggestions for a suitable destroyer kit, anyone? My shipping knowledge extends to a rowing boat on Heaton Park lake!
I've now got "other plans" for my Dornier Do24(see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45884 for another group build idea!)
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OK, go on then, I'll make up three dozen. Dunno what I'll build tho'. I like RN Tooms,
but always liked the USN birds in Gull Gray & White. I do know one thing.......It'll be a Phantom!

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While pondering (yes, really!) over the eligibility of a Dornier Do24T for the possible "Battle of the Atlantic" GB, it occurred to me that a GB
based on Air/Sea Rescue might be a goer! It could include aircraft from almost any airforce, both fixed and rotary winged, and also some
civilian aircraft, as well as surface vessels involved in ASR work. Military and civil colour schemes would be included- a change from grey
jets, although there could be several yellow helicopters!
I then realised that if we extended this to "Emergency Services" then Coastguard, Police, Fire Service and Ambulance Service models could
be included so that the tready thing and wheely thing modellers could take part too!
So there we have it- a GB idea to include Land, Sea and Air, Military and Civilian subjects with a definite theme- this could have something for
everybody! It's inclusive in that there is a wide variety of possible subjects, yet it's not a wide open free-for-all.
What do you all think?

Just had another thought: the figure modellers could get in on this as well, emergency services personnel and Military Policemen could make
good models!
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I hope nobody minds ,but I`ve drawn up a set of guidelines
for this GB.
Any Axis vessel ,(that includes U-Boats),Aircraft,that operated or tried to operate against Allied shipping in the North Atlantic,west of Lands End.This does NOT include S-Boats,or any short-range aircraft that operated against convoys in British coastal waters,nor any of the KM Hilfkreuser disguised raiders ,which operated in the other oceans of the world.
Any Allied Vessel,aircraft ,that was tasked in protecting ,either directly or indirectly,the North Atlantic convoys,but not vessels or aircraft that protected coastal convoys.
As for Dioramas ,something depicting a scene from the Atlantic battle,would be acceptable,eg a Sherman tank as Deck-Cargo,or a conning tower of a U-boat in a large scale.
Regards time scale ,I suggest from 3rd September 1939 to 8th may 1945,because some U-Boats were still operating in the N.Atlantic ,right at the very end(one torpedoed a Canadian minesweeper off Newfoundland a few days before VE-Day)
The southern limit would on a line from the West indies to Gibraltar,this was the USN sphere ,it was a bit warmer!!!
Anybody got any other ideas?
Well, that seems to rule out my Dornier Do24T, which was operated by the DL as a ASR aircraft, not against allied shipping. I think I'll have to pull out of this one, the eligibility rules are
getting too complicated! I understand that it can't be a free-for-all and that some resemblance (at least) to the reality of the Battle of the Atlantic is necessary. A definitive set of guidlines
will be needed and Phil's seem as good as any.
The list I posted was from an aircraft "colour profiles" website (wings palette), which, understandably, concentrated on aircraft. No slight to surface vessels intended (or their submersible
opponents). Sorry if ship modellers or other Naval types were offended.

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The US aircraft list should include more types...the USAAF patroled the Atlantic with B-18's, B-24's, to name a couple. The USN patrolled with PBY's and some other amphibious types as well. However, if I were to participate in this GB, I would have to do a U-Boat...'eye of the storm' and all of that...wot?
Atlantic Cheers,
ggc
I thought that as well. That's what made me think the list was of a/c they featured on their site.
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can add Heinkel He177 Grieff ti the lufty list Gaz
Consider it done, Walrus old chap!
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What ever your views on how this GB should be constituted, information on eligibility of particular models will
always be welcome. The Wings Palette website http://wp.scn.ru/en/cat/wars/ww2/167 lists the following aircraft types
under a "Battle of the Atlantic 1939-45" banner. What I don't know is whether this list is intended to be exhaustive, or
only to list those types for which Wings Palette has colour details. Anyway, here is their list, under national headings
Canada
Bristol Blenheim/Bisley/Bolingbroke
Great Britain
Armstrong Whitworth AW.38 Whitley
Blackburn B-24 Skua
Consolidated B-24 Liberator/PB4Y Privateer
Consolidated PBY Catalina
Fairey Albacore
Fairey Barracuda
Fairey Swordfish
Grumman F4F Wildcat
Grumman TBF/TBM Avenger
Hawker Hurricane/Sea Hurricane
Martin Type 167/A-22 Maryland
Short S.25 Sunderland/Hythe/Sandringham
Supermarine Seagull/Walrus
Vickers Wellington
Westland Whirlwind
Germany (Nazi)
Dornier Do.217/Do.317
Dornier Do.24
Focke-Wulf Fw.200 Condor
Heinkel He177 Greif
Australia
Short S.25 Sunderland/Hythe/Sandringham
USA
Douglas SBD Dauntless/A-24 Banshee
Grumman F4F Wildcat
Grumman TBF/TBM Avenger
New Zealand
Handley Page HP.52 Hampden/HP.53 Hereford
I have to say, I'm surprised to see the Hereford in this list, I thought only No.185 Sqn and 14 & 16 OTUs flew the Hereford
Hope this helps!
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Sorry, Erwin, It's a Revell (nee ESCI) Dornier Do24T in 1/72. If that doesn't work out,
plan B is a Matchbox Vickers Wellington.
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That looks great, Derek! Looks like a O/400 to me.

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Balls'd up one of those cheap Lee 1/35th Challengers and wanting to try some rust, I cobbled this together..........<snipped for brevity>
Ahhh well, it was a little bit of fun and light relief................................
BTW I dont think Jesus models in here........... he probably is on an IPMS site 
http://christianmodeller.wordpress.com/
If Jesus models anywhere on the 'net, you might find Him at one of those!
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Hi all,
"Atlantic" seems to be a bit confusing for some on the subjects that can and can't be build.
This GB is open to all subjects that operated in the Atlantic,North Sea and Norwegian Sea.
Well, that sounds like my Dornier would be OK!
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I'm sure there will be some interest in this one:

It'll hit the hobbyshop this month.
I want one!!!
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Thanks very much for that. It seems as though it's like I thought, just treat them as normal decals, only big and awkward!
Watch my build thread in the Great War GB for progress!
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Think I'll have a go, need to check out if the candidates I've got in my stash actually took part!
Initially, I'd like to enter either a Matchbox Wellington (the GR.XIV option) or Revell's (I think
Esci's originally) Dornier Do24T, I believe they flew ASR missions in the Bay of Biscay- does that count
as "Battle of the Atlantic"?
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I'll get in quickly and declare a Hurricane!






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The Mk. IV tank is all glued up now, and ready for priming, painting and decalling.
Progress with the Hansa-Brandenburg as well!
Wings and fuselage glued up after a bit of dressing and relieving the slot in the fuselage where the centre section (allegedly)
fits.
Milliput added where the centre section goes, to smooth things out. (I know the photo doesn't show it, it just seemed
appropriate to include this shot) And I know that with the glue mark on it, I'll have to paint the wing undersurface
yet again before it's done!