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file:///D:/=Lf-ARCHIV/%23Fahrzeug/=Commonwealth_USA/=MTF/=Australien/Correct colours for WWII Aust vehicles - Page 1 - MLU FORUM.html maybe this can help. My interest is more on the aircraft colour side. So I can not say how usefull this side is for you. Claus

Hello, on FW190 with wing drop tanks we also can see this rods. In this case it was a optical indicator for the pilot. My understandig is that the pilot from the cockpit can not see the tanks, he can only see the rods. If he dropped the tanks and he can not see the rods anymore he can be sure that the tanks are really dropped and not again under the wings about an technicaly malfunktion. This problem maybe on the Bf109 to. I am not sure, but I think they are on some Ju87 R too. I have that info from a book in german : Dietmar Herman, Focke-Wulf Fw190 F und G Hope it helps Claus

Hi, do a google search with re2002 limognes romanet. Under pictures you will find some from the restored fuselge of red5 from Geschwader Bongart. An article in the old german modell magazine Jet & Prop No. 5/1992 give for this plane a top colour of dark green and for the underside a light blue with a yellow touch. There is unfortunaly no mention about the origin of the colours, german or italien or a mix. A colour pic of the restored fuselage in the Jet&Prop article looks to me like a colour close to Colore 2 Verde Oliva Scuro. A screenshot from an VHS on my PC from the same film as the pic of BN+YB show this aircraft from the front and give me the impression that the yellow underwing colour goes only up to the landing gear covers. The rest of the wing and the fuselage are a light colour. Hope it helps Claus

Hello, WNr2871 is a He111 P-2. Source is Manfred Griehl, Heinkel He 111, Motorbuch Verlag. The book is in german language. Hope it helps. Claus

Hello, I am more on the aircraft modelling side, but now I think a Ford truck as a stand by to a norwegian Caproni is nice. Unfortunally I was unable to find any information about the colours and markins on vehicles ot the norwegian armed forces up to a time before the german invasion. I have only two pics from the net wich show some german captured ex norwegian trucks in black and white. These in an uniform colour painted trucks are in original norwegian paint or repaint in Panzergrau, I don`t know. The Ford Truck that had my attention is a Barrel Nose type and had a double cabin. Can it be possible that it is an ex french or british type. Both countys are engaged with troops against the german invasion. Any help will be great wellcome. Claus

Hello, for the underside colour search this site for the Jan.2015 topic - Hurricane IIb underside colour - post #13 from Peter Boer. Maybe it is a little helpfull. Claus

Hello Troy, thank`s for your posting. Now I will see se AK colours with a more critical eye. Claus

Hello, I think the latest news about RLM83 Dark Blue are in the new book from AK. Real Colors of WWII-Aircraft. Now a original recipe of this color was found and Mr. Jürgen Kiroff, the well known Co Author from Mr. Merrick`s last Luftwaffe books, had mixed a color sample to this recipe. So I think the best is to buy a bottle of AK Real Colors RLM83 as a sample. I will go this way, using the AK RLM83 as a master and try to mix my own in enamel paint. In the book is a printed sample but I found no usefull match in FS, RAL or BS standards. Hope it helps Claus PS Up to date I was not able to buy one.

Hello Finn, Ian K. Baker in his -RAAF Spitfires Camouflage Special- has A58-254 as an profile and give the same colours for it. Also his impresson is that the airplane was polished. Have a look in the Spitfire Markings of the RAAF Part 1, Smith&Pentland under the pic of A58-254 is a pic from BR539 in desert camo. The Mid Stone is in his greyscale not so far away from the lighter colour of A58-254. So I think Light Earth can it be. The camouflage pattern on the fuselage follows only very loosley the factory drawing so a repaint in Australia is a possibility. That is only my impression and I hope someone with moore knowledge will jump in. Best regard Claus

Hello Dave, have send a PM. Hope it work. Claus

Hello Peter, in April 2014 Nick Millman in his Bloc show a Fuller paint chart. One colour was : One Coat Enamel TL-8703 NS Light Gray. Do you think that this is the underside colour for the Martin bomber ? The Milk White for the flying boat underside was DuPont 71-021 Sky Type S gray. See post #13 from topic - Hurricane IIb underside Colours - from this year. Best regard Claus

Hello Olivier, Geoffrey Pentland in " RAAF Camouflage and Markiengs Vol2 " on page 94 show a profile off Beaufighter A8-23 EH-C. In the caption he writes:" ...white aeras around the engine cowlings were treated with special heat reflecting paint. " Other pics in that book show also Beaufighter with cowlings not unlike that in your pic posted above. Claus

Humbrol 44 is little as FS35488. It is also a little darker as Methuen 22 B 4. All the best Claus

Hello, Michael Ullmann in his german edition of his book about the Luftwaffe colours give for the Do 24 K with date from 4.Oct. 1937 a coat of DKH Ölgrund grün L40/41 as a primer with the 2. coat as DKH Nitrodecklack Silber L40/51. I am not 100% sure, but I remember to read somewere that the floor was coverd with Linoleum. A word to the beaching trolly on my modell. This is a pure product of my fantasy. I think the Dutch have lost such equipment on there return to Australia. So the australiens must be done some improvisations for beaching the Dorniers. It is made from same plastic profiles and wood. The wheels are from a Hasegawa Mavis and spare. My knowledge about the mistakes on the modell are from an article in the old german Modell Magazin No.12-1978 and No.1-1979, done by Karl Kössler. He checked the Italeri modell against some original dokuments and drawings. Claus http://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/nein24.htm this link may be also some help

Hello Stephen, some years back I was also doing a RAAF Dornier. The Italeri Kit has some mistakes that will be corrected for all versions. The front turret must be moved 3 mm back, the Flossenstummel, the little wings on the waterline, I don't know the english word, must be 2 mm thicker and then bring to shape, the tailend must be widend by 1,5 mm to fit the turret and the complet tailplane is set 2 mm higher. Also the double fin and rudders are to small and must be corrected. The rescue hatches for for the T version are on the wrong place and must only on the left side in flight direction. The bulleyes must be a little higher and the missing entry hatch willalso scatch built. The engine mounts are also 2 mm too short. Also are missing the external reinforcing stipes and other small items. The flap hinges are a little to small. The ailerons must be corrected to look moore like the "Spaltklappen". To built a Dutch/RAAF Dornier we must also built a new cowling, the fairing from the middle engine on top of the wing must go more far back and we have 2 landing lights. The Dutch also can have some bomb racks. For the verion with 3 identicel ALCAN turrets the opening for the middle one must be reduced in diameter. Reading all that you will be give up before starting. But most corrections are not a big task and the endresult is in every way a big improvment over the original kit. I have built my Modell from an original first edition. Your Edition have a much better interior. If the hatches on the cockpit are closed, you will see not so many from it. Hope images bive you some impression. Claus