Prop Duster

***************************************************** Neo is an international auxiliary language created by a Belgian diplomat of Italian descent Arturo Alfandari. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Neo (constructed language) http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/wikipedia...mp;locale=en-US according to Google SO, that means there are people speaking an auxiliary language made up by an Belgian-Italian called nat-zee, and they, and you are members of a club?

A harty welcome to you. your PE looks very nice and crisp. Let us see your model when your done

as well you should let me at 'em just let me at 'em we now return this post to its rightful and original purpose, over and out

To All Well let me add my thanks, Colin, for the insightful information and photos - I am amazed and inspired. As I am sure you are aware, the process of producing aircraft was, and is currently, a process of continual change. These changes can occur during the manufacturing on a daily, if not hourly bases. The progression or reason for a change can be caused by many factors (ie from a shop assembly need (a part just wont fit like the engineers thought), a revamp of a component by a subcontractor that was not accounted for on the shop drawings, of the shop drawings not being updated in a timely manner, plus a myriad of others. This sort of change activity goes on, even in todays highly computerized aircraft manufacturing environment. With the stakes as high as those in the early stages of WWII, the pressures would be very great to get aircraft built and updated as needed, to take comply with new aeronautical data or specifications and/or requirements of the customer. HOWEVER, as we all continue to create a scale model of our own, with the accuracy and detail that will satisfy us, we have only the data available to us (such as you have kindly shared with us) to make our judgments on. This leads us to be as accurate as we decide we need to be and to share knowledge, facts, understanding and even occasionally a rant or two. All the while resisting the temptation to "broadcast" assumptions, guesses, unsubstantiated bits. Sorry for my long windiness but a great big thank you, to all that have made this thread one of my all time learning sources for the Mk1 aircraft. Steve

This is and has been fascinating- & I don't even build Me109s-yet. But to enter into the outer fringes of the discussion would it be possible that the dented areas, encircled (yellow), in this link http://thumbsnap.com/v/xrRurxxJ.jpg ... be from pilots dragging a boot getting in or out? and if that's true, would it not be likely true of all aircraft of that mark? This train of thought would lead to the similar rubbing noted at the cockpit edges. Granted I am a novice but just wondered if such a possibility exists. Regardless this has been a great learning experience for me, and as such, I'll have to be more diligent in researching in future if I want/need to be very accurate for a specific aircraft. Steve

Mark, Jennings et al; Well stated, I also believe that to strive for an accurate interpretation is fine, if that is your intent and desire. However if you just enjoy model making and wish to "paint a pink and mauve Me 109" more power to you. My assumption is that any body that completes a model has increased their and our awaireness of how that model has been interpreted by the builder. Historical accuracy is important if that is your forte, but the pleasure derived in skill and knowledge advancement needs to be acknowledged and applauded; We all need to exercise that ability to enjoy others efforts in what they did do. Steve (but pink and mauve 109's??? )

Ever desirous of the need to help keep things simple ( the KISS principle) I will come out as state the 3d letter is a "P" there, now you can continue on and figure out the rest for yourselves Sorry, I'll be good now

The hot -not boiling- water trick is the best for you to try for now. Tape or rubber band the parts that join together, then dip the rest in the hot water for a few seconds pull it out and squeeze them as close together as you can. If you are lucky and the parts go together completely you can hold them closed with tape until cool. If you are not so lucky, try again keeping the plastic in the water a bit longer. Best of luck Oh by the way Welcome to the world of scale modeling, where it seems, only you have problems and all the others out there have it perfect

Very nice, like the job you did. oh by the by... is the pi-o-let reaching for that missplaced "post- it" note on the wing?? ...............sorry, I'll behave now

Welcome back to the hobby nice work, good lookin model. I especially like the added details -shinny drip pan - air crew - ground cover, all go to make it look good.

CYBERMODEL very welll done your skill shows

Colin I too am "High-E-Tist" modeler (just a short 40 yrs ) WOW the new words, concepts, equipment, let alone the current skill level is weird er scary er wonderful. Your spit looks very fine at this stage. You no doubt will see rapid improvement for your next efforts- Best Wishes! on your future projects, keep the pictures coming Steve ----I just got a new toothbrush, to paint my current project ???Now which unit had the purple mustang???

wouldn't that be a smidgen too large for 1/72?? ps quick check of one source "... 13 feet 4 inches (4.06 m) Hamilton Standard Hydromatic three-blade propeller..." which seems to be the number I had in the back of my mind. HTH

if the replacement prop isn't feasible you could cut a circle out of clear plastic and put swirlling prop blade shadows on it. To represent a spinning prop. Lame I know, but have seen it done with fair to good results for ceiling flyers

Nice work so far Brian of course you have surpassed my "skill" level already, but I'll get over it ......someday

here's to ya one for you and one for me

I humbly beseech your pardon. I would wish to inform the honorable gentleman member, that his original message was most helpful, encompassing much useful information. Sadly,tho,that message was mislaid in the interim. Please accept my heart felt thanks for both the original missive and for repeating it's location, so that I may avail myself, once again, of the gentleman member's most informative discourse. I remain your humble servant, in modeling Steve

for Avia B.35-2 any ideas on what color the cockpit interior panels, floor, IP etc. would have been? or on any of the Avia B 35's -1,-2, -3 for that matter, likely they would have been the same as they were prototypes I saw one source that mentioned a "Gray" ... but TIA

I am always amaized by the amout of information that a "simple" qustion can generate. The discussion and information given and gone over is a wonder. I had heard of the USN test of the Mustang but hadn't given any thought to the larger question(s). I may just put a "navelized-what-if" P51D variant on to my endless "to build-someday" list, Humm USN?, Royal Navy? natural metal?, camo? the thoughts are flashing; the possibilitys are coming up throught the mists......... Thanks all

I think the "R" is not as bright/light as the spinner and fuselage band. The under surface is a hard call. but given the quality of the photo and the variation of my computer screen's rendition, I would personally, "go with the flow" and paint it with what you feel is correct. Good luck, should be a good project.

Nick the U.S. one seems to be, my idea of sky. the other seems to be "grayer" (less of the greenish hint) than my idea of sky. That said, the point about the different times of year and the "color" of the ambient light is worth a strong consideration, perhaps looking a the gentleman's suit color vs his face color would lead you to a better guess of local light. good question, thanks

[Abridged quote name='deecee' date='Aug 14 2009, 02:46 PM' post='376009'] "These are flexible vapor deposition sheet which is superior in coherence to the curved surface..." doesn't it work on flat surfaces?? -just asking is all ...Are they decals or similar to Bare Metal Foil? - and what is this new technology called vapour deposition? Uh, that's your basic vapor deposit(ing), so instead of grubby smelly old paint, you apply a vapor, which will look like smoke. When viewed in a mirror this will give us the world renound smoke and mirror school of products. found in small remote mountain villages... or not Can anyone throw any light on this? Not, obviously, me **************************** p.s. However, they do show as "decals" on the Hannants discription, so pehaps its a very thin decal like material to simulate ... ??? something. Hopefully, Hannants will enlighten us in future. [/qdeposituote]

timmah Don't buy new, unless you have no stash (? ?). But pick out one you have and know little or nothing about, DO NOT read reviews, don't ask the folks on the forum, just build it out of the box -with the instructions your given. Paint it with whatever colors you have that meet the general idea (if you dint have enough of something just mix up what you can -close counts!). As the others good advice said, go for form and fun . Let the museum quailty and /or magazine photo shots, be for later. ...if it ain't fun, your doing it wrong.... MODEL ON!!

To all, for you fine input and suggestions. A big Thank You. For the information and references. They will be added to my library for future works To Nick Millman, your addition of color samples is very helpful and welcome, outstanding. I feel confident now, to plunge on and paint the little monster. So, as you were, I'll be in the studio mixing paint…… ..now where IS that can opener?