John R
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I would have thought that after Mr Belenko presented them with a real one the Hasegawa version would be spot on.
Regarding the Yak 28, oh dear, I have one in the stash.
I also have an A model La 250. Anybody have any experience/opinions about it?
Just remembered - There is a brand called 'Red Star' (origin Russia?) I had a Yak 25 by them . So much flash that it looks like a vacform.
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Oops! Didn't make it clear did I?
Avoid these
Trumpeter Su 15 (early version) It's too long
KP Su 9 - very thick wings and fin are the worst bits - overall shape is about right
KP Mig 19 - As I remember the wings were twisted relative to the fuselage datum
PM Su 21 - Wholly inaccurate
La 176 There is also a kit of the this about. I picked one up for a £1 at Southern Expo a couple of years ago thinking that you couldn't go wrong at that price but you certainly can. The fuselage is way oversize. The is a Maquette kit about that might be a re-issue of this.
Open mind - These were Ok to build but I couldn't speak for their accuracy
Hasegawa Mig 25
KP Mig 15
Airfix Mig 29
Italeri Su 27K - Flanker D
Aardvark is correct about the identity of the Flanker
Whilst I'm online...
I have an A model Su 15TM which I started and put aside until I had the patience to deal with it.
I also have an A model Tu 128 with similar problems.
I have been told that A model products result in an accurate model but are the devil to build. I'll endorse the last bit.
John
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****! Lovely stuff
The weather forecast for Saturday was diabolical so I went Sunday instead.
The forecast sunny intervals were visible 10 to 20 miles south whereas we had continuous grey stuff overhead. The sun arrived as the show ended.
Funnily enough the commentators said that the weather was much better than the previous day. Obviously they were not wielding cameras!
John
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Good shots considering the conditions.
It was a duff day for photography was it not?
John
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I've got one somewhere if the above offer falls through
John
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All 1/72 scale
I built the Zvezda Mig 1.44 found it to be OK except for the specified colours which, I believe, have top and underside transposed
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Avoid
Trumpeter Su 15 (early version) It's too long
KP Su 9
KP Mig 19
PM Su 21
Can't speak for accuracy but they were Ok to build
Hasegawa Mig 25
KP Mig 15
Airfix Mig 29
Italeri Su 27D
OK
Revell Su 37 a few build issues but generally Ok
John
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I finished one of these a few years ago. Took me 24 years to do because I couldn't manage to get a decent gloss finish and I couldn't face the painting the tanks. Every so often I would get it out and try again. I persevered because I loved the colour scheme and finally managed to finish it.
Not up to your standard of detail but I'm quite happy with it.
The kit had the early wing with fences which had to be removed and replaced by slots and I never did find out which version of the canopy was fitted to this particular a/c. I always thought that the 'thing' behind the canopy was some sort of exhaust vent.
Main problem with building was the amount of filler needed around the doors.
Finish was Hannants enamels - ADC grey with Insignia red and blue on the tanks.
John
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Thank you. That's really helpful.
I found a picture of the intake taken at an airshow. It showed the vanes but not their position but there is a really good head-on shot on that website.
I think that I now have all the answers I need.
John
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Just started the Special Hobby 1/72 Hawker Sea Hawk and found a wealth of fiddly photoetch and resin parts for the cockpit and a battle damaged fuel tank BUT THE AIR INTAKES ARE DEVOID OF ANY DETAIL!!! Not even the boundary layer splitters.
I have seen Damian Burke's photos on the Thunder and Lightnings website which show what appear to ne vanes inside the intake.
Can anyone please enlighten me as to their configuration?
John
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Here's a topside view from Old Warden
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Thanks Roberto,
I also have these pictures of the second prototype.
The colour is described as 'cream' whereas Barrie Hygate's book says 'duck egg green'
John
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I am building the Maintrack vacform of this a/c and would like some info, if anybody has it please.
I have just posted a topic on Work in Progress with the questions
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70610
John
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I started this a while ago but it got left on the back burner whilst I tried to finish something.
It has been resurrected after I starting exchanging PMs with Roberto (rpaddy) about British prototypes.
I mentioned the P1052 and he wanted to see some WIP so maybe posting here will give me the incentive to get on with it!
Problems so far...
According to Barrie Hygates book the fuselage is a bit too long but probably not enough to worry about.
Wingspan too big ( about 6mm) - should I bother - probably
Wing fairing into fuselage - some (!!) reshaping needed
Cockpit - details are vague so I built something up. If anybody knows any better about what is in there and the seat configuration and colour I would like to know.
Main problem is the main u/c. Doors and wheels are in the wrong place. This is not much of a problem as the fuselage has to be cut anyway.
I joined the wings to the fuselage as surgery has to be done to both parts to make the gear wells.
The biggest problem is that there appear to be some auxillary doors aft of the main ones.
Does anybody know why these are there and is there some attachment to the main gear such as another strut?
Thanks for looking
John
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I had not realised that two 707A a/c were built.
Having just finished an Olimp P120 ( see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=70324) I have every sympathy with your problems and I think you made a better job of yours than I did. I did not have the patience and skill to paint the wheel wells and cockpit.
I have great reluctance to try another Olimp model but I might have to think again about this one.
Well done
John
PS. A duplicate of this was posted in error in the WIP section
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I had not realised that two 707A a/c were built.
Having just finished an Olimp P120 ( see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=70324) I have every sympathy with your problems and I think you made a better job of yours than I did. I did not have the patience and skill to paint the wheel wells and cockpit.
I have great reluctance to try another Olimp model but I might have to think again about this one.
Well done
John
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No it's not you. I had finger trouble whilst editing.
John
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Boulton Paul P111
Designed purely for research into the delta wing planform it first flew in 1950 as the P111.
It was rebuilt as the P111A after a landing accident and flew, in this colour scheme, in 1953.
It can now be seen at the Midland Air Museum.
This is the CzechMaster 1/72 scale resin kit. This is a very comprehensive kit and comes with three sets of wings and two fuselages so that any of the various configurations can be built.
It comes with a set of photo-etch parts so that the cockpit can be fully detailed. Since none of this is visible with the cockpit canopy closed and my fingers are incapable of dealing with such fiddly parts I left this bit out!
The P111A version can be built with the airbrakes out. I wanted them in but couldn't persuade them to fit neatly and so filled in the space and made some decals to represent them.
I thought that pitot tubes and nose probe would be vulnerable to damage if I used the resin ones so I made these from brass tube. The nose probe is made from bass tube covered in Milliput and turned to shape using an electric drill. It could do with some further thinning, I think.
One problem that occurred at the end was that the black anti-glare decal did not fit. It appears that I had fitted the canopy by buttting on to the end of the dorsal fairing, assuming that this was the correct place. In fact it results in the canopy being too far forward.
I also think that the nosewheel leg is a bit too long, resulting in it being a bit too nose high.
This model represents a return to my childhood as I built one of the 'solid balsa' versions back in the fifties.
Boulton Paul P120
This was built to continue the work of the P111 but was lost in a flying accident, due to elevon flutter.
It first flew in 1952 but crashed only 23 days later
Olimp Pro-Resin 1/72 scale
When I bought a Czechmaster P111 it had parts for 3 versions and I began to wonder if the spare fuselage and pointed wing version could be used to make a P120. However before I could get started I managed to get this P120 from E-bay.
That is almost the only good news about this kit. The wings had a manufacturing fault and were not of scale thickness. However it proved possible to replace these with the spare set from the P111.
The next problem was a lot of porosity on the fuselage. With that fixed, and the model painted, I then discovered that the decals were for a P111! After some botched attempts at masking and then creating decals for the cheat line on the fuselage I contacted Lonewulf Models, the importers, to see if they could sell me a proper set. To my surprise they sent me a set free of charge, whilst saying uncomplimentary things about Olimp’s quality control. What nice people!
Next problem was the u/c which was incorrect as the P111 & P120 had small supplementary doors but in the kit these were moulded as part of the main doors. OK if you are making a gear-up version but not otherwise. A certain amount of surgery and bodging was required. Oh, and the mainwheels are too large to fit the wheel wells.
It nearly all went ‘pear-shaped’ at the end. There is not much room in the nose for any weight so I thought that I would leave fitting the engine nozzle until last so that I could stuff weight up the fuselage if it turned out to be a tail sitter. With all the problems the build took so long that I forgot all about this until it was too late. Fortunately Murphy’s Law failed to operate and weights were not needed - but only just!
I am not entirely sure that the decals are correct. The ‘yellow’ looks a bit too ‘orange’ and I do wonder if the registration numbers should be white rather than yellow.
John
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Designed purely for research into the delta wing planform it first flew in 1950 as the P111.
It was rebuilt as the P111A after a landing accident and flew, in this colour scheme, in 1953.
It can now be seen at the Midland Air Museum.
This is the CzechMaster 1/72 scale resin kit. This is a very comprehensive kit and comes with three sets of wings and two fuselages so that any of the variuos configurations can be built.
It comes with a set of photo-etch parts so that the cockpit can be fully detailed. Since none of this is visible with the cockpit canopy closed and my fingers are incapable of dealing with such fiddly parts I left this bit out!
The P111A version can be built with the airbrakes out. I wanted them in but couldn'y persuade them to fit neatly and so filled in the space and made some decals to represent them.
I thought that pitot tubes and nose probe would be vulnerable to damage if I used the resin ones so I made these from brass tube. The nose probe is made from bass tube covered in Milliput and turned to shape using an electric drill. It could do with some further thinning, I think.
One problem that occurred at the end was that the black anti-glare decal did not fit. It appears that I had fitted the canopy by buttting on to the end of the dorsal fairing, assuming that this was the correct place. In fact it results in the canopy being too far forward.
I also think that the nosewheel leg is a bit too long, resulting in it being a bit too nose high.
This model represents a return to my childhood as I built one of the 'solid balsa' versions back in the fifties.
Boulton Paul P120
This was built to continue the work of the P111 but was lost in a flying accident, due to elevon flutter.
It first flew in 1952 but crashed only 23 days later
Olimp Pro-Resin 1/72 scale
When I bought a Czechmaster P111 it had parts for 3 versions and I began to wonder if the spare fuselage and pointed wing version could be used to make a P120. However before I could get started I managed to get this P120 from E-bay.
That is almost the only good news about this kit. The wings had a manufacturing fault and were not of scale thickness. However it proved possible to replace these with the spare set from the P111.
The next problem was a lot of porosity on the fuselage. With that fixed, and the model painted, I then discovered that the decals were for a P111! After some botched attempts at masking and then creating decals for the cheat line on the fuselage I contacted Lonewulf Models, the importers, to see if they could sell me a proper set. To my surprise they sent me a set free of charge, whilst saying uncomplimentary things about Olimp’s quality control. What nice people!
Next problem was the u/c which was incorrect as the P111 & P120 had small supplementary doors but in the kit these were moulded as part of the main doors. OK if you are making a gear-up version but not otherwise. A certain amount of surgery and bodging was required. Oh, and the mainwheels are too large to fit the wheel wells.
It nearly all went ‘pear-shaped’ at the end. There is not much room in the nose for any weight so I thought that I would leave fitting the engine nozzle until last so that I could stuff weight up the fuselage if it turned out to be a tail sitter. With all the problems the build took so long that I forgot all about this until it was too late. Fortunately Murphy’s Law failed to operate and weights were not needed - but only just!
I am not entirely sure that the decals are correct. The ‘yellow’ looks a bit too ‘orange’ and I do wonder if the registration numbers should be white rather than yellow.
John
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You must be mad! Have the men in white coats come for you yet?
Beautiful job - I wish I had the patience and ability to turn out something like that
John
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Yes they are rough and need a lot of work.
Some while ago there was a build thread on the Amodel Yak 28. I can't remember if it was on this form or the Unofficial Airfix one.
Start digging
John
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I built one of these back at the end of the Eighties and was most impressed by the way it went together. Can't comment on the accuracy as it was before I got interested in such things, as long as it looked about right that was good enough.
My only problem was that I had not learned about handling decals and didn't realise how much you could actually move them around.
You should enjoy it
John
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Nice job. I built one of the Emhar kits many years ago and was singularly unimpressed so you deserve a pat on the back.
John
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I built one of these back in the Fifties when you had to carve them out of balsa wood. I've now got one of the Czechmaster versions in the stash which is beginning to clamour for my attention
John
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Ken - I'm lost in admiration. Not just for the models but for your patience. How come the men in white coats haven't come for you yet?
John