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  1. The late filter design was spherical and had hinged doors which opened and shut like a clam or eyelids. There is a close-up photo in Wingleader No 29. Sorry, shameless plug. I should also point out that the framework supporting this, and the earlier Tempest dust filter is not included in the Eduard kit. The earlier version was 2 vertical metal strips with side of the filter and a horizontal strip other side supporting a similar ring. See page 43 ... The later version support was similar but a bit more complex. I\ll send photos to someone to post on my behalf if a volunteer send me their email.
  2. JN751 and JN754 and would require the 'intake ring (strangely omitted by Eduard). The dust filter was introduced when Tempests entered service with the 2ndTAF in mainland Europe. There is some (limited) photographic evidence to suggest that these were removed during winter operations (no dust and the filters did knock a few mph off the top speed). However the filters were in universal use again from c.March 45 and were retained post-war. One exception on the decal sheet is SN330 J5-H which (as a post war rebuild by Hawker, delivered in 1947) appears to have been fitted with the late version of the filter, as fitted to TT.5s and sometimes described as 'clam-shell' or 'eye-lid'.
  3. I'm not very keen on 'IIRC' or even vaguer posts and my memory is not what it was .. but FWIW here goes! I recall reading an article (it may have been in Tangmere Museum's magazine) by a former Tangmere airman who stated that during the critical stages of the Battle of France, all available Hurricane reserves were gathered at Tangmere for despatch as required. There were more than 100 at one time. A query on RAF Commands might provoke a more a more positive answer.
  4. I'm still looking for a definitive answer to this question, as I was asked it by an aviation artist recently. I thought the answer was the same as Tail-Dragon has suggested but thought I had better check. I came across two bits of evidence which suggest that the clips were not released - at least some of the time. There are photos/film which show the clips in place immediately after firing - but it could be that the clips did not release immediately. However I also came across official correspondence concerning the techniques used by the battlefield analysts who went in after Mortain, Falaise etc. One of the ways to establish that RP had been responsible for the destruction of particular vehicles was the presence of the clips in question. Just to further muddy the waters - could the wartime clips have been retained but ejecting versions introduced later, say post-war? I know we have at least one armament expert in the community ... who might have the answer? CT
  5. Further to the above, there is also a starboard view of PR-R on D-Day (recently identified as MN239) which has 'PR' (only) on the fin tip - PR on the fuselage being covered by the stripes.
  6. The two cylinders were emergency water supplies, should the pilot be forced down in inhospitable country; they were coloured red. They were often removed from the Tempest IIs operated in Germany.
  7. Hi Rob, Bob I reget to say I have not seen a photo of JR379 with D-Day stripes. I looked through all those Thorney Island films, frame by frame in places, at the IWM years ago and made notes. PR-M was the only one featuring a large 'M' on the forward fuselage; there was a port side view PR-B (with just an extra B on the fin) and a starboard view of PR-A which featured a small PR with A beneath on the fin. These would appear to be logical as the individual letter only was covered by the stripes on the port side but the squadron codes were hidden on the starboard side. That would be my best guess for PR-L if you want to take the route (unlikely anyone can prove you wrong ...). Incidentally I have not seen any photo for 'PR-J JP*16' either. Nor does a serial matching that appear in the ORB for June 1944. I suspect that the personal marking maybe genuine but the rest has been educated guesswork. Going back to PR-L, there are more images of this on film dated 30 May 1944, which seem to indicate the spinner was roundel red and it had 'L' repeated on the outside of the main u/c doors. Correctly on the starboard side but reversed (see IWM image) on the port side. Spinner appears to be red. It had earlier been with 609 sqn as PR-A in Jan/Feb 1944, when it had a black/Sky spinner. Chris
  8. The Tempest F.2 and F6 in 'silver' finish were all painted in "Aluminium'. There are, however, several Tempest Vs known to have been stripped of all paint. A Tempest V, serial unknown, test flown by Hawker in 'natural' finish to see if there was any advantage. One (perhaps two and possibly more) flown by 501 Sqn in late 1944, on test. Known example allegedly coded SD-R (but possibly D or P, serial not known). Two post war with 33 Sqn, 5R-S SN213 and 5R-N EJ886. XC-D SN228 of 26 Sqn and possibly JN876 'RH' used by ACM Sir Roderick Hill as his personal transport.
  9. No problem Mike. I used to be able to rely on my memory too ….
  10. Hi Claudio I am away from my references at present but check a plan view of the camouflage scheme to see if there is any Dark Green behind the seat armour. Yes, you are correct about the yellow leading edge stripes. the two light coloured dots between the landing lights and the wing root are letter 'A's. There are detailed photos of this aircraft in Wingleader number 16. Regards CT
  11. That is a bold statement Mike. What is your source? I have been looking for definitive archive information on this topic for several decades ... without success. However from study of dateable photos and the odd reference - like R.P.Beamont having his Typhoon painted black when he started night ops in early 1943, I have come to believe that all early Typhoons had 'cockpit green' interiors and that black (from bottom of the doors upwards) was introduced in spring 43. I have also deduced that the portion of the rear fuselage monocoque under the rear portion of the canopy was in the upper surface camouflage until mid 43 when it may have been painted in black - possibly at the time when whip aerials were introduced with the original car doors. It was certainly black when the sliding hood was introduced. CT
  12. Don't bother with the exhaust stain evidence - they were there after every flight and were regularly cleaned off using high octane fuel. The R-B with no D-Day stripes has stripes under the wings - note the u/c door. These were Typhoon-style identity stripes and were removed in April 1944 -which dates the photo to that month. I am away from records at present but I know the RAE report mentions that R-B had been repainted with D-Day stripes in standard paint finish rather than the original distemper, with a positive effect on performance. I believe that the top photo shows the repainted R-B and there middle photo shows the original distemper markings (note the code letters have been edged with masking tape to give the outline effect, which can be seen on other Tempests of the Wing).
  13. Apologies for the late reply. Regret to say no concrete ident for the 3 Sqn Tempest with Beamont. Series 1 (well spotted) and I am missing half a dozen or so codes for the ones used by 3 Sqn. It appears to have been JF-I, J or L. I have no record of any ';I' and the only known suggestions for J or L are JN768. However I'm pretty sure JN768 was 'F' in May 44. Could have been all 3 at different times of course. Although it is identified in 3 Sqn's ORB as the Tempest in which Beamont was shot down, this was actually a later JF-L, EJ710. Beamont's Series 1 Tempest 'R-B' was certainly JN751 which he first flew on 24 March 44, and regularly until 5 Sept 44. His new aircraft was 'RPB' (in one block, forward of the roundel)) EJ706. The order of the striped R-B photos remains obscure to me at the moment, with conflicting evidence for both possibilities. It was flown to Langley for a repaint at some stage during its striped era (which was only about a month. The full stripes were only retained until very late June or early July 44. They were removed after a visit from RAE test pilots (including Winkle Brown) to assess methods of maximising speed. The distempered stripes were found to be drag-generating and were totally removed. Tempests did not wear stripes again until October 44 when they went to the ~Continent to join 2ndTAF. And then it was under-fuselage only.
  14. Hi Will I'm afraid this photo is a fake. The pilot figure (Beamont) has been taken from another photo of hime in front of a 3 Sqn Tempest at a similar angle. The Tempest is possibly a model - the canopy shape is incorrect, also the headrest and the prop blades look dodgy too. So the port side pennant is probably a guess by the faker. Even the hedges in the background are taken from the 3 Sqn photo. There is in fact a photo of the port side of 'R-B' in the IwM collection but is slightly out of focus and badly lit but I cannot see any sign of a pennant. The photo is taken pre- D-Day .c.April or May 1944 and a pennant could have been added at a later date but no illustrations have come to light.
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