[Hasegawa Hawker Hurricane IIB]

I have been looking to do this also but with a 1/72 Revell MkIIc (just need some B wings...)

Where exactly does the 2mm from the nose need to be removed, the very tip where the spinner meets or nearer the engine firewall?

[1/72 F-15e questions]

Skimming though the resourses found on the net as well as the excellent F-15e.com site i am still a little confused about the differences between the Academy weapons pylons and airfix pylons.

What should I be adding to my 1/72 Academy Strike Eagle to bring it upto a more realistic E config?

[F-15 E]

Just looked on that website, great stuff I have an 1/72 Academy F-51E with a resin cockpit to do so very handy.

[Airfix P51-B]

It's because it isn't a Tamigawas that has me hooked, a simply stunning 'Stang.

[Revell/ Monogram F-82 Twin Mustang]

Looking to maybe do a 1/72 F-82. Whats the Revell/ Monogram one like and would it be easy to rescribe the panel lines?

[What happened to the C-45 thread?]

Just cleaning out old stuff (hence the mass of old posts in the trash) some newer topics were on the recieving end of my cull... regret to those who were part of them!

Looks like Phat Trev has deleted ALL his threads.... the bin's full of 'em

[AZ Model Spitfire FR.XIV]

Lovley Griffon Spit!

[Airfix Spitfire (early Mk IX) 1/72]

Nice conversion, whats the scheme going to be?

[What RAF Squadrons flew the C-45 (Expeditor)?]

Great info and discussion guys Thanks.

Just dug up the following details, hope they are usfull for others here also...

(cut and pasted from an email so hope you don't mind the odd looking text layout)

RAF Expediter Mk. I

(52 delivered 1944)

In 1944, the British needed commu-

nications aircraft for use in Asia,

the Middle East and at home. There

also existed crew training require-

ments for the British

Commonwealth Air Training Plan,

operated by the RCAF, in Canada. A

total of 119 Expediter I models were

received under Lend-Lease4.10 with

distribution as follows: 52 for the

RAF, six for the Royal Navy, and 61

for the RCAF.4.11 The 52 RAF aircraft

bore serials from HB128 to HB206,

and were shipped by sea beginning

in April 1944, but few of the

Expediter I models were destined

for England. The majority went to

Karachi, India, and the RAF Air

Command South East Asia for

assignment to Communications

Squadrons or Flights. Examples

served with the 3rd Tactical Air

Force, 4th Air Delivery Unit,

Director General of Aviation in

India, 221st Group, 224th Group,

225th Group and 353rd Squadron.

These transported personnel and

equipment, and were in the natural

metal finish with the RAF serial in

black on the rear fuselage and

South East Asia Command

roundels. Those roundels had a

dark blue outer circle and a light

blue inner disc. The usual red cen-

ter was eliminated to avoid confu-

sion with the Japanese national

insignia. The fin flash had light blue

forward and dark blue in the rear.

The 1941 Lend-Lease Act called

for the return of surviving aircraft

at the end of hostilities; RAF

records show 26 were returned.

Two of those went to the AAF, and

the U.S. Navy accepted the remain-

ing 24 at Norfolk, VA, on December

31, 1946.

RAF Expediter Mk. II

(217 delivered 1944-1945)

The RAF was allocated 217 C-45Fs

under the Lend-Lease program4.59

and designated them Expediter Mk.

II models. The Expediter IIs were

serialled KN100 to KN149 (50),

KJ468 to KJ560 (93), and in the

range from HB208 to HB299 (74).

The RAF had a need for communi-

cations aircraft, especially for use in

South Asia, so 151 Expediter IIs

were shipped by sea from the Port

of Newark, NJ, (beginning in June

1944) to Karachi, India. The RAF Air

Command South East Asia assigned

them to various Communications

Squadrons or Flights where they

transported personnel and equip-

ment. For example, Expediter Mk.

IIs “in the KN series were flown dur-

ing 1945-1946 by Polish pilots of the

RAF 229 Group Communications

Flight in India, operating with 9, 10

and 11 Ferry Units.”4.60Initial deliv-

eries to the RAF in north Africa and

the Middle East consisted of 62

Expediter IIs with four serving the

RAF in the U.S.

Note that the RAF spelled the

name differently from its common-

wealth partner, the RCAF, who

spelled it “Expeditor Mk. II.” The

1941 Lend-Lease Act called for the

return of surviving aircraft at the

end of hostilities, and AAF aircraft

record cards note that 145 were

sent back to the AAF, many of

which were stored in Germany.

RAF Expediter II HB253 returned

from service in the Mediterranean,

and was turned over to the AAF in

Romania on July 19, 1946. It was

then registered YR-MIT to King

Michael of Romania with the

Certificate of Airworthiness issued on

October 20, 1946. The King abdicat-

edin December 1947 and left

Romania, but there is no aircraft

cancellation date in the Romanian

records — just the note: “aircraft

flown out of the country by Traian

Udriski with his wife and child on

board in 1948.”4.61 Udriski may have

been the King’s pilot. In February

1950, the plane was registered to

Air Import AG, Switzerland, as HB

GAA, and then to CN de St. Yan

until February 1967 as F-BFRO.

Royal Navy Expediter Mk. II

(61 Delivered 1944-1945)

Sixty-one Lend-Lease Expediter IIs

were delivered to the Royal Navy

and most were delivered to India

for communications work. Serials

included FT980 to FT996 (17),

HD752 to HD776 (25), and in the

range KP100 to KP124 (19). Crated

Expediter IIs arrived in Great Britain

and India and were assembled at

the British Reassembly Division,

Lockheed Ltd., at Liverpool’s Speke

Airport and Renfrew, Scotland; as

well as places such as the Royal

Navy Aircraft Repair Yard at

Coimbatore, India.

In early April 1946, it was

announced that Britain had

received full title to 25 Lend-Lease

C-45s with the understanding that

when they became surplus they

would not be transferred to another

nation without U.S. approval.4.64 It

is probable that they were Royal

Navy Expediter IIs since, by the

end of 1946, the RAF only had a

few left. In January 1949, the Royal

Navy still had 24 in service.

The three primary post-war

Royal Navy Expediter II operators

were: 728 Squadron, Fleet Radio

Unit (FRU) at Hal Far, Malta; 781

Squadron (Southern

Communications Unit) at Lee on-

Solent, UK; and 782 Squadron

(Northern Communications Unit) at

Donibristle, UK. In addition the

Flag Officer Reserve Aircraft (FORA

unit) at Arbroath, Scotland, and the

Flag Officer Flying Training (FOFT

unit) at RAF Merryfield/Yeovilton

used them. The last Expediter IIs

were struck off charge by the Royal

Navy and scrapped at Hal Far in

August 1957.

RAF Expeditors...

TYPE SERIAL FY

AT-7 FR879 42- 2508

AT-7 FR880 42- 2509

AT-7 FR881 42- 43475

AT-7 FR882 42- 43476

AT-7 FR883 42- 43477

C-45B FR940 43- 35535

C-45B FR941 43- 35540

C-45B FR942 43- 35541

C-45B FR943 43- 35629

C-45B FR944 43- 35635

C-45B FR945 43- 35639

C-45B FR946 43- 35645

C-45B FR947 43- 35651

C-45B FR948 43- 35653

C-45B FT975 43- 35539

C-45B FT976 43- 35613

C-45B FT977 43- 35621

C-45B FT978 43- 35623

C-45B FT979 43- 35624

UC-45F FT980 43- 35673

UC-45F FT981 43- 35674

UC-45F FT982 43- 35675

UC-45F FT983 43- 35676

UC-45F FT984 43- 35688

UC-45F FT985 43- 35728

UC-45F FT986 43- 35730

UC-45F FT987 43- 35732

UC-45F FT988 43- 35734

UC-45F FT989 43- 35738

UC-45F FT990 43- 35837

UC-45F FT991 43- 35839

UC-45F FT992 43- 35841

UC-45F FT993 43- 35843

UC-45F FT994 43- 35845

UC-45F FT995 43- 35847

UC-45F FT996 43- 35849

C-45B HB100 43- 35463

C-45B HB101 43- 35465

C-45B HB102 43- 35466

C-45B HB103 43- 35467

C-45B HB104 43- 35468

C-45B HB105 43- 35469

C-45B HB106 43- 35475

C-45B HB107 43- 35476

C-45B HB108 43- 35477

C-45B HB109 43- 35478

C-45B HB110 43- 35479

C-45B HB111 43- 35480

C-45B HB112 43- 35481

C-45B HB113 43- 35482

C-45B HB114 43- 35483

C-45B HB115 43- 35484

C-45B HB116 43- 35485

C-45B HB117 43- 35486

C-45B HB118 43- 35487

C-45B HB119 43- 35488

C-45B HB120 43- 35490

C-45B HB121 43- 35491

C-45B HB122 43- 35492

C-45B HB123 43- 35493

C-45B HB124 43- 35494

C-45B HB125 43- 35495

C-45B HB126 43- 35496

C-45B HB127 43- 35449

C-45B HB128 43- 35453

C-45B HB129 43- 35460

C-45B HB130 43- 35556

C-45B HB131 43- 35557

C-45B HB132 43- 35545

C-45B HB133 43- 35546

C-45B HB134 43- 35547

C-45B HB135 43- 35548

C-45B HB136 43- 35549

C-45B HB137 43- 35550

C-45B HB138 43- 35551

C-45B HB139 43- 35552

C-45B HB140 43- 35553

C-45B HB141 43- 35559

C-45B HB142 43- 35450

C-45B HB143 43- 35455

C-45B HB144 43- 35457

C-45B HB145 43- 35458

C-45B HB146 43- 35459

C-45B HB147 43- 35461

C-45B HB148 43- 35470

C-45B HB149 43- 35471

C-45B HB150 43- 35473

C-45B HB151 43- 35474

C-45B HB152 43- 35512

C-45B HB153 43- 35570

C-45B HB154 43- 35571

C-45B HB155 43- 35572

C-45B HB156 43- 35573

C-45B HB157 43- 35574

C-45B HB158 43- 35579

C-45B HB159 43- 35580

C-45B HB160 43- 35581

C-45B HB161 43- 35582

C-45B HB162 43- 35606

C-45B HB163 43- 35520

C-45B HB164 43- 35522

C-45B HB165 43- 35523

C-45B HB166 43- 35524

C-45B HB167 43- 35525

C-45B HB168 43- 35521

C-45B HB169 43- 35596

C-45B HB170 43- 35585

C-45B HB171 43- 35586

C-45B HB172 43- 35589

C-45B HB173 43- 35526

C-45B HB174 43- 35527

C-45B HB175 43- 35528

C-45B HB176 43- 35534

C-45B HB177 43- 35615

C-45B HB178 43- 35616

C-45B HB179 43- 35617

C-45B HB180 43- 35618

C-45B HB181 43- 35619

C-45B HB182 43- 35620

C-45B HB183 43- 35622

C-45B HB184 43- 35625

C-45B HB185 43- 35614

C-45B HB186 43- 35537

C-45B HB187 43- 35630

C-45B HB188 43- 35632

C-45B HB189 43- 35634

C-45B HB190 43- 35636

C-45B HB191 43- 35638

C-45B HB192 43- 35640

C-45B HB193 43- 35642

C-45B HB194 43- 35644

C-45B HB195 43- 35646

C-45B HB196 43- 35648

C-45B HB197 43- 35650

C-45B HB198 43- 35652

C-45B HB199 43- 35654

C-45B HB200 43- 35656

C-45B HB201 43- 35658

C-45B HB202 43- 35660

C-45B HB203 43- 35662

C-45B HB204 43- 35664

C-45B HB205 43- 35666

C-45B HB206 43- 35667

UC-45F HB207 43- 35668

UC-45F HB208 43- 35669

UC-45F HB209 43- 35670

UC-45F HB210 43- 35671

UC-45F HB211 43- 35672

UC-45F HB212 43- 35690

UC-45F HB213 43- 35691

UC-45F HB214 43- 35692

UC-45F HB215 43- 35693

UC-45F HB216 43- 35694

UC-45F HB217 43- 35695

UC-45F HB218 43- 35696

UC-45F HB219 43- 35697

UC-45F HB220 43- 35698

UC-45F HB221 43- 35699

UC-45F HB222 43- 35700

UC-45F HB223 43- 35701

UC-45F HB224 43- 35702

UC-45F HB225 43- 35704

UC-45F HB226 43- 35706

UC-45F HB227 43- 35708

UC-45F HB228 43- 35710

UC-45F HB229 43- 35712

UC-45F HB230 43- 35714

UC-45F HB231 43- 35716

UC-45F HB232 43- 35718

UC-45F HB233 43- 35720

UC-45F HB234 43- 35722

UC-45F HB235 43- 35724

UC-45F HB236 43- 35726

UC-45F HB237 43- 35741

UC-45F HB238 43- 35745

UC-45F HB239 43- 35749

UC-45F HB240 43- 35753

UC-45F HB241 43- 35757

UC-45F HB242 43- 35761

UC-45F HB243 43- 35777

UC-45F HB244 43- 35781

UC-45F HB245 43- 35785

UC-45F HB246 43- 35790

UC-45F HB247 43- 35801

UC-45F HB248 43- 35805

UC-45F HB249 43- 35809

UC-45F HB250 43- 35813

UC-45F HB251 43- 35817

UC-45F HB252 43- 35821

UC-45F HB253 43- 35825

UC-45F HB254 43- 35829

UC-45F HB255 43- 35831

UC-45F HB256 43- 35833

UC-45F HB257 43- 35835

UC-45F HB258 43- 35851

UC-45F HB259 43- 35853

UC-45F HB260 43- 35855

UC-45F HB261 43- 35857

UC-45F HB262 43- 35861

UC-45F HB263 43- 35859

UC-45F HB264 43- 35865

UC-45F HB265 43- 35869

UC-45F HB266 43- 35873

UC-45F HB267 43- 35877

UC-45F HB268 43- 35881

UC-45F HB269 43- 35885

UC-45F HB270 43- 35889

UC-45F HB271 43- 35893

UC-45F HB272 43- 35898

UC-45F HB273 44- 47080

UC-45F HB274 44- 47082

UC-45F HB275 44- 47084

UC-45F HB276 44- 47086

UC-45F HB277 44- 47088

UC-45F HB278 44- 47090

UC-45F HB279 44- 47092

UC-45F HB280 44- 47094

UC-45F HB281 44- 47096

UC-45F HB282 44- 47098

UC-45F HB283 44- 47122

UC-45F HB284 44- 47126

UC-45F HB285 44- 47130

UC-45F HB286 44- 47134

UC-45F HB287 44- 47138

UC-45F HB288 44- 47142

UC-45F HB289 44- 47146

UC-45F HB290 44- 47150

UC-45F HB291 44- 47154

UC-45F HB292 44- 47158

UC-45F HB293 44- 47162

UC-45F HB294 44- 47166

UC-45F HB295 44- 47170

UC-45F HB296 44- 47174

UC-45F HB297 44- 47178

UC-45F HB298 44- 47182

UC-45F HB299 44- 47186

UC-45F HB488 44- 47295

UC-45F HB489 44- 47297

UC-45F HD752 44- 47102

UC-45F HD753 44- 47106

UC-45F HD754 44- 47110

UC-45F HD755 44- 47114

UC-45F HD756 44- 47118

UC-45F HD757 44- 47202

UC-45F HD758 44- 47206

UC-45F HD759 44- 47210

UC-45F HD760 44- 47214

UC-45F HD761 44- 47218

UC-45F HD762 44- 47302

UC-45F HD763 44- 47304

UC-45F HD764 44- 47307

UC-45F HD765 44- 47309

UC-45F HD766 44- 47312

UC-45F HD767 44- 47400

UC-45F HD768 44- 47404

UC-45F HD769 44- 47408

UC-45F HD770 44- 47412

UC-45F HD771 44- 47415

UC-45F HD772 44- 47499

UC-45F HD773 44- 47503

UC-45F HD774 44- 47507

UC-45F HD775 44- 47511

UC-45F HD776 44- 47515

UC-45F KJ468 44- 47190

UC-45F KJ469 44- 47194

UC-45F KJ470 44- 47198

UC-45F KJ471 44- 47222

UC-45F KJ472 44- 47226

UC-45F KJ473 44- 47230

UC-45F KJ474 44- 47234

UC-45F KJ475 44- 47238

UC-45F KJ476 44- 47242

UC-45F KJ477 44- 47246

UC-45F KJ478 44- 47250

UC-45F KJ479 44- 47254

UC-45F KJ480 44- 47258

UC-45F KJ481 44- 47262

UC-45F KJ482 44- 47266

UC-45F KJ483 44- 47271

UC-45F KJ484 44- 47276

UC-45F KJ485 44- 47280

UC-45F KJ486 44- 47285

UC-45F KJ487 44- 47290

UC-45F KJ490 44- 47300

UC-45F KJ491 44- 47315

UC-45F KJ492 44- 47320

UC-45F KJ493 44- 47325

UC-45F KJ494 44- 47329

UC-45F KJ495 44- 47334

UC-45F KJ496 44- 47339

UC-45F KJ497 44- 47343

UC-45F KJ498 44- 47347

UC-45F KJ499 44- 47352

UC-45F KJ500 44- 47356

UC-45F KJ501 44- 47360

UC-45F KJ502 44- 47364

UC-45F KJ503 44- 47368

UC-45F KJ504 44- 47372

UC-45F KJ505 44- 47376

UC-45F KJ506 44- 47380

UC-45F KJ507 44- 47384

UC-45F KJ508 44- 47388

UC-45F KJ509 44- 47392

UC-45F KJ510 44- 47396

UC-45F KJ511 44- 47418

UC-45F KJ512 44- 47422

UC-45F KJ513 44- 47429

UC-45F KJ514 44- 47432

UC-45F KJ515 44- 47436

UC-45F KJ516 44- 47440

UC-45F KJ517 44- 47444

UC-45F KJ518 44- 47448

UC-45F KJ519 44- 47452

UC-45F KJ520 44- 47456

UC-45F KJ521 44- 47460

UC-45F KJ522 44- 47463

UC-45F KJ523 44- 47467

UC-45F KJ524 44- 47471

UC-45F KJ525 44- 47475

UC-45F KJ526 44- 47479

UC-45F KJ527 44- 47483

UC-45F KJ528 44- 47487

UC-45F KJ529 44- 47491

UC-45F KJ530 44- 47495

UC-45F KN100 44- 47704

UC-45F KN101 44- 47705

UC-45F KN102 44- 47707

UC-45F KN103 44- 47708

UC-45F KN104 44- 47709

UC-45F KN105 44- 47710

UC-45F KN106 44- 47711

UC-45F KN107 44- 47712

UC-45F KN108 44- 47713

UC-45F KN109 44- 47714

UC-45F KN110 44- 86945

UC-45F KN111 44- 86947

UC-45F KN112 44- 86948

UC-45F KN113 44- 86949

UC-45F KN114 44- 86951

UC-45F KN115 44- 86952

UC-45F KN116 44- 86953

UC-45F KN117 44- 86954

UC-45F KN118 44- 86990

UC-45F KN119 44- 86991

UC-45F KN120 44- 86992

UC-45F KN121 44- 86993

UC-45F KN122 44- 86994

UC-45F KN123 44- 86995

UC-45F KN124 44- 86996

UC-45F KN125 44- 86997

UC-45F KN126 44- 87078

UC-45F KN127 44- 87079

UC-45F KN128 44- 87080

UC-45F KN129 44- 87081

UC-45F KN130 44- 87082

UC-45F KN131 44- 87083

UC-45F KN132 44- 87084

UC-45F KN133 44- 87085

UC-45F KN134 44- 87152

UC-45F KN135 44- 87153

UC-45F KN136 44- 87154

UC-45F KN137 44- 87155

UC-45F KN138 44- 87156

UC-45F KN139 44- 87157

UC-45F KN140 44- 87158

UC-45F KN141 44- 87159

UC-45F KN142 44- 87235

UC-45F KN143 44- 87236

UC-45F KN144 44- 87237

UC-45F KN145 44- 87238

UC-45F KN146 44- 87239

UC-45F KN147 44- 87240

UC-45F KN148 44- 87241

UC-45F KN149 44- 87242

UC-45F KP100 44- 47701

UC-45F KP101 44- 47702

UC-45F KP102 44- 47703

[What RAF Squadrons flew the C-45 (Expeditor)?]

cheers Graham, this is a start anyway! I feel the 'plain jane' look is the one I am am to do as i can get some good panel shades going.

I have found an example here http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/..._t__t_7951.html

of the PM kit built, I like the larger style SEAC? roundles so will be using these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._216_Group_RAF

I suspect the C-45s were used to ferry pilots about.

Photos? Of second-line RAF aircraft overseas? Can I start laughing (hysterically) now? I wish. I have seen one photo of a SEAC C-45, but it was very plain jane bare metal with just roundels and serial. I suspect that was normal for the type. There was one recent warbird in FAA Sea Blue Gloss overall, and there is a photo justifying that in one or more of the Air Britain FAA books but you want RAF.

OK, Putnam's Aircraft of the Royal Air Force. HB275, camouflaged top yellow(presumably, looks like it) undersides, 1943-type roundels (like the RAAF, fairly large blue and white only). 231 Gp CF. 231 Gp was a bomber group. (OK, I've seen two photos.....) There's nothing in Putnam's Beech Aircraft. Presumably there is at least one other batch of serials, as there's another 200 or so aircraft I haven't accounted for yet.

Yup. KJxxx and KNxxx almost 150 aircraft. Including a nose-on shot of KN116 with late SEAC roundels (a bit large) bare metal and rank pennant on the nose - rear fuselage not seen. Some of these batches ended in 96 Sq and 353 Sq. 353 was a SEAC transport unit using three C-45s for local comms work. 96 was one of the units converted to transports postwar, which is presumably when it had it's two.

The numbers don't seem to add up to the quoted totals, but that's got the majority of them.

[What RAF Squadrons flew the C-45 (Expeditor)?]

thanks for that Graham.

I am interested therefore in the aircraft used in Burma and BAFSEA.

(what was 216 group?)

would you be able to recommend any sources for photos?

The simple answer is that it was not a "squadron" type, but used in small numbers on communications duties, Staff HQ duties, etc. Looking at the 93 a/c in the HBxxx range, the one unit to have more than just a handful was 1330 Conversion Unit, at Bilbeis, used to provide initial twin experience. For the rest you have ACC Bulgaria, 216 Group CF, Burma CF, BAFSEA CF, Austria CF etc. No squadrons.

[What RAF Squadrons flew the C-45 (Expeditor)?]

Would anyone know what RAF Squadrons used the C-45 Expeditor MkI and MkII (Beech 18)

There is really not much around that i can find or maybe I just have not found it yet?

[1/48 SMER Swordfish - updated 11 Jun 10]

That looks a great start

I too am doing a vintage SMER, the Tiger Moth so I will follow your build with interest.

[Handbrushing with Xtracrylix]

seconded: warm water works a treat. keep it really thin and build up the layers when the paint has been left to dry for a day for best results. In practice this wprks for me.

[RAF Mustang Mk1]

If you search back through these pages or do a search, recently there was a tremendously interesting, useful, and LONG thread on this topic. The last post on the topic was a couple of weeks ago, IIRC. This is really worth searching out.

Hope this helps!

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...mp;#entry489025

I am currently using the 1/72 Academy Mustang (north africa) as a basis for an RAF Mk1 its a lovley little model, I was going to use the Frog Mk1 but as soon as I saw the Academy version I fell for modern engineering!

["Anyone who had a Hart, would look....."]

As usual any help/ guidance would be appreciated.

John

The Hart family book and Mushroom book are both ideal for your projects. It would not be too difficult to convert the types.

I have a copy of SAMI with a great artical about the types I can dig out for you later this evening if you like.

Hope you put your builds on here they will look awesome!

[A Few Mustang Mk.i Questions]

Thanks for the interior details, a feast of information.

Reading thorugh http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000...le_mustang3.htm on the IPMS Stockholm site.

I am interested in the markings shown, paricually in the accuacy of the colour plates. Some have obviously been copied from photos that are easily found on the Net such as 2Sqn XV-E and 613Sqn SY-L

A few others 26Sqn RM_T XC-F too name two I have certailnly never seen photos of?

[A Few Mustang Mk.i Questions]

Sorry, but IF you want to be accurate- you can't really do your project this way.

If you go and get the Academy kit- you are 90% of the way there- believe me.

Mentalguru, cheers for advising me to go for the Academy version as I have managed to get one and it is really good.

now then what to make D-Day Stang Ia or Stang I with Yellow wing markings ...

oh, whats the colour of the interior on an early British Mustang? humbrol aycrlic 226 or xtracrylicx XA1010? (these are the only greens I own so I hope one is correct!)

am I correct in guessing the wheel wells would be chromate green primer ..or similar?

edit, just found this on hyperscale

'The Allison Mustangs had the wheel wells painted aluminum. The spar which formed the rear of the well was Yellow Zinc Chromate. Gear doors were aluminum paint, as were the gear struts. Wheel were natural metal. The wheel doors were always in the up posistion ,unless the gear was cycling. The cockpit was Dull Dark Green, and the remainder of the interior of the a/c, not the crew area would have been yellow zinc chromate. Do not forget to add the seat armor(Accurate left it out).

( Mustang IIs were also painted like this)'

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awesome! nice finnish (matt those tyres!)

What make?

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Great information Col, thankyou for sharing these pictures and photos.

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Trev,

Good attitude, in my opinion. Go ahead and I look forward to admiring it when its finished!

regards,

Martin

cheers Martin, just need to get hold of a very fine razor saw to take the nose and rad area off.

will display the the build in WIP sometime soon

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The measurements may seem "minute" but so is the distance between the canopy bottom and the wing top - an increase of 4.5 inches on this dimension really is significant and will look it.

Thats true Graham, but thats where raising the wing a little may help the perception...I hope..anyway it's not going to dead on accurate anyway!

Just seen a photo of the Radiator opening...hey thet looks great! it's on Col Fords Mustang artical.

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Prehaps raising the wings a little may be needed, this would be easy to do also, although the measurements that have been mentioned (when brought down to 1:72 scale) are minute!

I have found another reference 'P51 Mustang: From 1940-1980 ' and it has a 2 page spread briefly outlining the advancement of design by showing side profiles of each Mustang variant. the P-51B is certainly 'deeper' around the radiator area but when this part is taken away and replaced by the Mustang I item then the airframe does gain the slightly narrower line.

Well I am going to go ahead and do this conversion as I looks to be correct enough for this scale, with a bit of butchery of course. Many thanks for everyones imput! it's been very informative.

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Yes, the radiator airscoop is different on the Allison-engined variant, and indeed between different Allison-engined variants. As is the carburettor scoop above the engine.

The whole rear fuselage (including canopy) is raised compared to the Allison variant (as said above). I'd like to say "You can't rely upon the web" as indeed you can't, but even the normally reliable "Detail In Scale" has this wrong, basing their drawing on the P-51B fuselage - as did at least one of the Czech kits, which I fear has been re-released by MPM.

Academy is indeed by far the best kit, but the Italeri is pretty good providing you're prepared to alter the wingroot leading edge.

Thanks for the notes and details. I was rather hoping not having to go and get an Academy P-51A and use what I have available to me and do a bit of DIY modelling?

Graham you say the whole rear fuselage is raised, in what way? I have desided to measure up the two kit airframes (green Revell, grey Frog)- the fuselage spines and tails are a copy of each other, the entire nose upto the fire wall would have to be exhanged. The larger radiator would have to be removed carefully following the panel lines and the smaller one grafted on and detailed.

Looking at the project not too much fuss by the looks of it but it takes careful cutting around the engraved detail as the Revell wings fit the smaller Radiator scoop well.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/mustang.shtml is a super link, one I had not come across, thanks ben m, it clears up my, until now, limited understanding of the armourment between variants