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Right oh, thanks for the input chaps. Always a bit of a bugger from black and white pics isn't it ??
The ailerons, elevators, and any other metal areas, like engine covers, had the usual grey-green primer, with camouflage on top.Edgar
Actually, what you say there Edgar would make me inclined to now paint those areas I mentioned in Grey-Green! I think I am right in saying that the 0.303" gun covers, nose cap and the area where the 57mm gun protrudes were indeed metal, in which case it would now be logical to give them a coat of Grey-Green instead of straight Grey primer. Sounds good enough to me.

It also states in the Combat Colours book that the area around the port tailplane root/fuselage appears to have Red primer on it, with a bit also extending up to the fin base. Now, thinking about that logically too (I don't usually think logically ....
) I would assume it was because of some maintenance or repair in that area, in which case possibly part of the rear tailcone may of been removed to do this. If that was the case, it may make sense to also put some Red primer effect on the starboard tailplane root area aswell.
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Finally grabbed me some correct Green and Grey Xtracolour from Hannants at the weekend and can now put the camo on the Mosquito. Question is, which would be the most likely primer colour used by the RAF on the Mosquito? In the SAM Combat Colours showing the aircraft that I am building, it suggests that the nose and nose underside areas were in bare Grey primer at the time of the pics shown below. At the moment this is the colour I am inclined to apply as I have no conclusive proof that it would be any other colour, i.e Grey-Green and such. Would they of used a Grey primer in a situation such as this? The nose and nose underside is definately darker than the Medium Sea Grey camo, and also appears slightly lighter than the Dark Green camo, any thoughts/suggestions??
Where's Edgar when you need him ....?

Upper view

And here's a better pic of the underside compared to the pic I posted in the In Progress build, showing the nose underside quite nicely


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There's a bit of odd camo extending to the bottom of the nacelles
Mike
I have had another look at the pics, and to my eye it looks as if the entire access panels on the sides of the nacelles/engines are painted with the upper camo colour, because the colour appears to extend behind the leading edge of the wings.

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Cheers Ian, I'll probably do the same... just need to get a handle on which bits are inside, so I can mask it properly.

Thanks Neil - you just keep coming thru

No probs.
On the link I posted above, if you click on the 'Phil Broad Collection' icon, there are lots of pics there showing the canopy framing etc.

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That 18" would be approx 9.5mm in 1/48 scale.


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Coming along aint it!
Fuselage band would be 18 inches wide.
Not sure about glazed port......
Mossie reference pics here:

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Got a jiffy bag from you waiting at home, thanks!
Hate to dissapoint you, it's not stuffed full of used £20 notes I am afraid,


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Mike
Regarding the in flight pic I sent (the upper view, looking down on the aircraft) I think that the leading edge of the wings 'could' be yellow, if you look closely.

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Neil
have you still got all your build pic's for this model as i would seriously consider making one of these and purchasing all of the resin that goes to make it.
I was lucky enough to pick up a GR3 model for £5 last year at the Fairford airshow,the whole stash only lasted 15mins,from the moment i picked my one up i have never seen them for that price since.
Cheers Clive.
Clive, all the pics are in the link below:
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....622&hl=neil
I've said it before, but Neil your jag is the best conversion model I've seen and would put it in my top 10 of all time best buildsYou sweet-talker, you ....
. (Those bits I said I would send are in the post by the way!!).Thinking about the 1/48 Jag, the intakes also need replacing because they are moulded with the aux. side doors open, that only happens when the engines are running. Also the internal corners are too sharp and should be rounded instead.
I also think that Ed Grantham needs a bloomin' good arm twisting to print off a batch of those rather nice aux. side intake hinge decals ......


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Thinking about it, I am fairly sure that the moulds for the underwing pylons are kicking around the workshop somewhere. Will have a dig around for them.

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Hi all do they do a two seat conversion for the 1/48 Airfix Jaguar if so who makes it and where could i get one.
Cheers Clive.
Strictly speaking it is for a T2, but it's no big deal to make it into a T4. Linky below to my in progress build a while back (and I really SHOULD of moulded those u/c legs before fitting them, I may try and figure a way of taking them off again ....
).http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....622&hl=neil

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Wouldn't mind joining in, depends how much free time I have. Not sure I could find time to do another 1/48 Airfix one though!
. Would love to have a crack at the latest Orange and Black Special Scheme.'jagmate' is here in the workshop today (spraying the u/c legs on his 109 at present) and he is still trying to convince me that the single-seaters look the best .... :whistling:

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Always good to have more Jags around..............but no Tbirds please.......Neil.......!!!
Ah, but the two-seaters do look so much better than the single-seaters ...... :whistling:

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and let me know how much to PayPal over for the resin I'll need from you
Let me know what you want nearer the time, I'm sure I can sort something out for you .... :whistling:

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Forgot to add, your stuff is in the post!


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You really MUST put me in touch with this fine chap...
He was here in the workshop yesterday (currently building a Marseille Bf 109) and may be in here tomorrow to do a little more to it, 'jagmate'. (Steve).

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Yes please Neil do you have a pic of it and how much
I will send you a PM.

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I think I'm probably going to do a Gulf War I machine
Any particular machine in mind? There is a fine chap on this site who could be VERY helpful ......


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That should do it. May be worth double checking the fore/aft position of the rail too, maybe the length of the rail also? All kinds of variations and permutations could have an effect.

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Yup, the pylons angle downwards from the main pivoting pylons.
Not a GR4, but I think the pylons are the same....


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Could you post a 'head-on' view of the rail/pylon?
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You may also need the larger bomb aimers nose blister, give me a shout if you need one.

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Masked off all of the invasion stripe areas with good old Tamiya tape, the black parts will be sprayed on last. Note the 'cut out' bit on the rear fuselage below the fin for the serial number, the number was left surrounded with the camo colours. Will break out the airbrush soon and put the Green and Grey camo pattern on.
Still not 100% sure which colour to spray the nose area, in the SAM Combat Colours book it suggests a possible application of Grey primer so may just go along with that thought. Without colour photo's who can say ......



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I'm going to take this opportunity to appeal to Neil's better nature AGAIN. . .can you do some fishtail ehausts and some NF.30/36/38 shrouds Neil? My chosen option has these shrouds but for now the model will just have standard six stack exhausts. It would guild the lilly nicely
Well, funny you should mention that. I did consider those exhausts when I was preparing all of the Mosquito stuff a few weeks back, spent a while discussing those with Gary (mungo1974) when he was here in the workshop, and we flicked through several books finding pics that could of been used. Unfortunately, at the time, I had to draw the line somewhere with all the new stuff as there was an awful lot to get issued all at the same time. Will give them another look when I have a spare moment.





RAF paint primer, WWII
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Had another thought .... (just to confuse the issue
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Maybe they had no Dark Green or Medium Sea Grey paint immediately to hand for some reason, and just whacked on a coat of any colour that they happened to have at hand, so at least those areas had 'some' kind of external camo finish. For example, maybe a coat of something like Ocean Grey, or similar, was thrown on so at least there was some kind of final paint finish??
Pure conjecture on my part I know, but who can definately say that those areas in the pics were actually left in primer? (Unless somebody know's otherwise!).
Just confusing things now aren't I ....