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Steben

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  1. https://www.facebook.com/ChurchillMinotaur/posts/pfbid02HYjhsdfTmkKco9TAyXNTiZzwmB5swt1YrUXKaCDCDUaJcapybiWBvtjvbxQjiEtxl?comment_id=2771343616339455&notif_id=1694368160460954&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif Done in SCC15.
  2. Great monocolour Leopard. A tank in single drab seems boring to most but this is another example of the opposite. Tie with a Centurion IMHO
  3. possible, but probably typo.... it would be much more the case for a continental vendor
  4. Repair and maintenance have a thin red line in between.... About material not being used as intended.... Fact is, the more equipment is used beyond or besides its intention, the more legendary it becomes. Let's not get started on Flak 88's.... After Korea, even the US bought some Centurions. The Centurion was simply "mobile artillery that got anywhere". Tank battles were scarce. Gepards are doing excellent in downing Russian drones. They have perfectly found a purpose in today's situation indeed. If you want stuff that gets you some acceptable equipment regardless of the situation you might notice that the AK and a T tank are perfect. Except ... they are not. Logistics is all. And that's what Ukraine is battling for as well. Any sustainable future concept in NATO is all about synchronised organisation. Ammo. Repair. A tank costs almost NOTHING except when it starts driving and shooting.
  5. Given the Leo 1 topic in the groupbuild I thought to elaborate a bit on RAL 6014. The original German name is "Gelboliv" (yellow olive), although I've never seen yellow olives. I'ld call it dark olive rather than yellow... It appeared only in the RAL system after world war 2 and some sneaky parts of my mind suggest that this might be close to RLM 81 but let's leave that for now. As I said earlier RAL 6014 is a bandwagon colour on the (western part of the)continent. In the Netherlands it is called "army green" which reminds most of their past conscript times. Some continentals might have started to find it boring. You can buy it in decoration paint stores, you can buy it in 1K, 2K whatever. It was the base colour of vehicles in Germany (du uh), the Netherlands, Switzerland and Italy for many years. It is rumoured that the early post war RAL6014 was slightly more brownish than a late sixties variant. It is possible, but dubious at least. Paint ages. Older artefacts are more aged by definition. Stories exist both about colour cards being different as well as about metamerism or different colour at an angle of the colour cards. Maybe early RAL6014 aged brown where as the later RAL6014 aged greyish. Perhaps it was the chemical and IR formula that changed this. It is even possible early German vehicles were painted US olive drab which was in the 50ties quite brownish. And some vehicles simply are too old or too young to have one or the other colour. Leopard 1's came in to service in big numbers only at the time the newer colour is mentioned. Older US tanks only in the old colour. For modelling I'ld stick to US olive drab for those. I know in the Belgian army many vehicles used to be in service in the original livery until overhauled. Even some CVRT variants kept Deep Bronze Green. The ww2 age British stuff kept its greenish OD. The first 50ties US tanks remained in Olive Drab. And Leo's were delivered in .... RAL6014. Brand new satin finish modern RAL6014 is a dark dull Olive Drab in shady state that can be rather greenish or brownish with different environment. Note the greyish shade on this VW bus upper sides (sky, concrete walls) and greenbrownish underside (grass): In full sun, it becomes more vibrant olive drab. Evening sun: Midday sun: When flatted out, it becomes more greygreenish shade as seen on these. Put a gloss coat on this and the pciture above comes close. Understanding gloss is crucial in understanding hue variants. This Swiss Pinzgauer shows flat and glossy parts yet rather in fresh state: When aged, it becomes easily tannish grey. But ... so do most. Ow yes, while the colour is mostly phased out it is the official colour of Swiss army bikes since 1993. Hope you liked it.
  6. That colour looks very very very good. I instantly see a German Leo. Effort is usually rewarded.
  7. Nato green as a "concept" is what Nato uses. And many model paint companies use it as a name. Yet no one calls fs34094 "nato green". It is the American green variant of the 3 tone scheme. Usually nato green is used for ral 6031 bronze green and variants. It is a ... green. Americans go slightly darker, french slightly brighter. Nato green as a specific colour is British. It is more of a greyish olive drab. Close to dull uniforms. And used - or a variant of -by the belgian and french army from 70ties to present. But slowly phased out. At least in Belgium new vehicles usually are in the colour of origin. The Pandur comes from Austria for example and these are quite RAL 7013. And most other kit is RAL 6031 like.
  8. I like XF-51 as aged NATO GREEN. You can mix it (there we go again) for more fresh colour with some XF-58.
  9. Revell Aqua is ... waterbased. Dries less fast than Tamiya which is alcohol based. When thinned correctly Tamiya is very nice to airbrush because..... it dries fast
  10. 34087 mix in online golden mixer.... yikes
  11. Slowly the guys at Brasschaat are getting there. Remember this is voluntary work. Test fitting the turret.
  12. Welcome ... from Belgium 🇧🇪🍟🍺 Bienvenue - Welkom
  13. Looking forward as well. Side note: One of my OCD themes. "NATO GREEN"... ah those paint companies..... It is a good colour to use, yet "Green used by NATO members" is the better name. Even better "Bronzegrün". "NATO GREEN" is a specific colour, much greyer/less green.
  14. Starmers paint chips....... SCC5 = RAL 7002 SCC14 = RAL 7021
  15. Stunning Tamiya mix. XF62 is too "vibrant". What about Gunze H78?
  16. Oh my .... ☺️ RAL 6014 is one of those colours that have a colourful olive drab when shiny and look very dark dully when flat. Not unlike 50 60 ties US Olive drab.
  17. Wow, I love the colour quest. 6014 is pretty standard RAL colour in real life. Haven't tried the ak ones, but the last images catch that "not that young" hue spot on. Too bad Revell does not match ral6014 with its "gelboliv" while they do match so many ral colours.
  18. Dear Vingtor, have you succeeded in matching the colour?
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