Thanks guys, I was refering to items that were marked Iwata and fake. I have seen the numerous clones at around £12 up,these do not say iwata.
I think you can tell if you are buying from a good source,even if not a main dealer or shop.
Ebay has loads of H+S being sold as ex demo with no bad feedback at all,just need to be careful and judge by coms with seller.
Recently bought a brand new sealed in box Iwata Neo for £35, was for sale for ages,wanted £55 but took £35,private seller.