[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

@KayFranz  Thanks for your reply.  So the image of the paint can you posted - do you think this is the actual paint the Ciervas were painted in?  And if so where did you get that information?

 

I'm returning to modelling (been absent since my childhood) so I've never considered having any decal printed.  To be honest, I didn't know it was possible.

And there's the minor detail that I don't know what the tiny text says...

I would love to reproduce it though, if it was possible.

[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

What do you make of this as evidence in favour of a dark navy blue?  This is a toy made by "Britains" (set 1392) in 1935 so it's contemporary with the original aircraft.  I think a darker blue fits better with the darker aircraft in the images I originally posted.  I wonder if the aircraft was lightened in the book colour to make the colouring of the image easier.

 

Simon

 

 

[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

On 11/01/2021 at 22:23, Fastcat said:

Hi Simon,

                 Nice to see someone with a connection to CUU. I'm inclined to think that the cheatline and reg are both silver but it's very hard to interpret colours from monochrome photos so I could never be certain.

This picture shows some of the warning markings and is from 1951, pilot G. S. Baker at Rearsby Airshow  :  Link

 

Dave

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for the photo, I think replicating those warnings might be beyond my modelling skills though! I do agree that someone, somewhere must have a colour photo though.  Colour photography wasn't so uncommon in the 1950s and the fact it was displayed at airshows must mean someone took a colour snap at some point.  I'll just keep hoping something turns up.

 

You're absolutely right about how imposing the C.30 is too.  You have to climb up high to get in and the nose is up in the air - manoeuvring it on the ground must have been difficult.  It's nothing like the tiny modern gyros often buzzing about over York.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Simon

[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

Thanks Pete, that's excellent.  I always love to see new photos of the giro.

I've ordered a copy of Nicholas Richardson's book. I'm sure he, and his publisher, will be happy for me to post the cover below.  I've never seen a colour photo of this livery anywhere else so I think this is a really rare image. Do you think there are any more in the "Les autogires" books you mention here?  I looked at buying them, but they seem to be >£60 each which is a bit rich for right now.

 

[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

13 hours ago, petetasker said:

It seems there weren’t that many paint colours available to a small company like Cierva and the standard schemes were usually either dark blue or silver dope. I’ve seen colour photographs of UU in the silver scheme featuring both red and blue undercarriage legs and rotor mast. It’s interesting that the early (blue) schemes in your post both feature different cheat line styles and also different font styles for the registration. The photos also show different main wheel configurations with the upper shot not having the hub covers. 

 

Pete 

Thanks Pete. I will buy a kit and some ResKit wheels then.

If we’re thinking G-ACUU was navy blue in 1950, do you have any thoughts on the best colour match? I have Vallejo Model Air 90 Blue Angel Blue.

 

Is there anything to suggest what colour the cheat lines and lettering would be? They must be a light colour. Perhaps white even.

 

Is there a good guide to airbrushing cheat lines anywhere, I’ve not done them before. 
 

Is there a source of 1/35 lettering for the “G-ACUU”?

 

The colour photos of G-ACUU with a silver body and red/blue undercarriage show a later scheme, but I’m not sure exactly when it was painted.
 

Cheers, 

 

Simon

[Cierva C30.A Autogiro G-ACUU Modelling Scheme c.1950]

Hi Everyone,

 

For the last few years, I’ve been researching my grandfather’s Cierva C.30a autogiro and I would really like your help to model it accurately.

 

During the time it took to set up my Britmodeller account, I’ve enjoyed reading the forum archives and it seems that @petetasker is a bit of a C.30/Rota expert – so it would be great to get your thoughts. I am full of admiration for @pierre Giustiniani's model of G-ACUU as HM580 – it was fantastic to see. And another incredible find was @Fastcat's story of sneaking into Elmdon hangar to see G-ACUU in the 60s. Wonderful stuff!

 

The time now seems perfect to model G-ACUU given the availability of the Mini-Art 1:35 kits, which look great to my untrained eyes but as they come in so many flavours, I'm not sure which one to start with (or are all the kits the same, just with variation in the decals?).

 

I want to model G-ACUU as it was in 1950 when my grandfather bought it. It was also in the same scheme when it flew at Hendon’s 50 years of flying display 1951. My grandfather loaned the aircraft to Norman Hill (who was a F/O in No.529 Squadron) to fly the display. My grandfather was an RAF signals F/L involved in radar development during the war and I have his service record but have been unable to tie it to the autogiros so far, despite my best efforts.

 

The liveries pre- and post-war look very similar in the images from “Aeroplane Monthly” magazine (below) but the longitudinal stripe is different widths.  The colours are a complete mystery though because all the images I have seen to date are black-and-white.

 

The aircraft has been well photographed since the 1960s when, following the birth of my father, my grandmother forced Guy to stop flying and it was loaned to the Skyfame collection and has latterly found a prominent home at the IWM Duxford next to their glorious Spits.  The IWM have returned to G-ACUU to a wartime scheme, so I would really like to commemorate its civilian life.

 

Some have linked the nickname “Billy Boy” to G-ACUU but nobody in my family has ever heard this name and so we don’t know where it came from.

 

In the book “Spitfires and Autogiros: A history of Upper Culham Farm, RAF Henley-on-Thames”, the author Darren J. Pitcher claims the following which I have not been able to verify:

-        G-ACUU/HM580 was crashed on the 18th October 1943 whilst returning to Thornaby in bad weather flown by P/O Gillies.  I’m hoping there might be a photo of this somewhere.

-        G-ACUU was the last autogiro to fly with the RAF.  This is a sad footnote to the story but I haven’t heard this before and it would give the aircraft extra importance.

 

Sorry, that’s a bit of a full-on first post - hope it's interesting to some and starts a conversation.

 

Cheers,

 

Simon