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  1. To follow this up I note that DK Decals have MB763 as KS-Z in their 313 Squadron set. This plane was damaged at Skeabrae in July 1944 when 313 Squadron were based there. Is there a photo of DU codes on VIIs other than MD114?
  2. I think they also used the ‘clipped, clapped and cropped’ (their words) Vbs left behind by 453. Clostemann’s book describes the fun-filled train trip they had to get to the Orkneys! MD114 (corrected from my erroneous 118) arrives at Skeabrae while 602 are there and is used by them at least once.
  3. I had a look at 602 and nothing, I also went back over 453 who were there from October 1943 and nothing. Where the VIIs are used by 453 it gives the aircraft letter but no squadron code; G=MB765, Y=MB828, Z=MB763
  4. and a bit more on Reynolds on this link detailing his aviation experience before reaching 103 MU
  5. Like others this is my feeling too. It must have been glorious on first flight after the Vs. I've bashed a couple of very crude XIIs just to keep them in the cabinet with all the other Spitfires but they are not my finest hour. I would love a better kit but I cannot see me buying more than a couple. XIVs on the other hand...
  6. Q1 Are there any other flights that I have missed? I now wonder whether I have overlooked some modified SHFs hiding in plain sight on this topic! I think when this first came up I convinced myself that the modification was just a paint scheme as the planes were used for low level work in Corsica. Obviously the high altitude scheme makes no tactical sense in that scenario. 451's ORBs during this period are pretty hard to read in the digital versions but I reckon that the IXs were used in Egypt early in 1944 for interceptions before the move to Corsica. Then the possibility of m
  7. Q12 Is there any more biography for Reynolds or Gold? I've had a bit of progress on Arthur George William Gold. I have updated a biography on allspitfirepilots : https://allspitfirepilots.org/pilots/3069-arthur-gold which relies heavily on this link together with some input from Ancestry.
  8. Q7. Were the Ju86s in the Middle East R1s or P2s? My previous comment "I think they were probably R1s given the ceiling they were able to keep. That might also explain why they were hard to identify." This link on weaponsandwarfare.com suggests that the answer is probably "both". Initially 4 86s were transferred to Crete in June 1942 which would be P2s. This core group was gradually whittled down to zero by Sept 1943 (according to this link).. Two more 86s arrived in April 1944 which could well have been the R1s. The weaponsandwarfare page is not consistent about the types.
  9. I have a 1954 English version and the wording is the same as you have quoted here. “VIIs” and “109G”
  10. The Pierre Clostermann topic prompted me to do some more looking at Mk VIIs. “The Big Show” claims that when they arrived in the Orkneys 602’s fitters removed the machine guns leaving only the cannons, which is consistent with the suggestion referenced by Alfred Price (my question 11). Of course Price may have been relying on Clostemann’s account, though we know how reliable some of that detail is. When 602 arrive at Skeabrae in January 1944 the station has four VIIs allocated. Three early ones (MB763, MB765 and MB828) which arrived in August and were initially allocated to 312 Sq
  11. Sorry, I meant to include the reference. It's a footnote to 'Spitfires over Malta'.
  12. I'm wary of getting too interested in Malta Spitfires as I can already see how much time could be spent on it! But here goes, just on the transfer of 601 Squadron. The ORB for 23 June says "S/Ldr Bisdee DFC and 8 pilots" had arrived at Aboukir from Malta though it does not says how many planes. Michael le Bas is quoted in Alfred Price's book as flying "one of 8 Spitfires". Of the 8 quoted I think BR459 is operation Salient rather than Style. Your proposed BP977 does fly with 601 in Egypt but not until 5 August, presumably meaning it needed to be repaired after the acci
  13. This seems to raise more questions! If MA357 was used to standardise the FIXT how come EN253 and some others described as FIXTs pre-date MA357? In Spitfire the History the chapter on Mk IXs is headed Type 361/378 and although the documentation for 361 is discussed the Type 378 is not to be found in the text. So what is the Type 378? In the secretprojects link it is described as F IX but I cannot find any other references. I had spotted the FIXT reference in MA399 but foolishly had not noticed that one of the specials, MA504 is also a FIXT. There is a refere
  14. I did have an objective of choosing a different model after completing the NMF IXs. There are going to be three: BR114 in its early form with an overall pale blue as in the Aeroplane Spotter article a speculative FRVI, BS106 in dark blue with oblique camera AB450 in the test pattern, PRU over Dark Sky so a V, VI and Vii then maybe a speculative IX from the Italian flight in high altitude.
  15. I think it is time I moved on from this subject or I am never going to get a model finished. Regarding my list of questions, this is where I have got to: Are there any other flights that I have missed? I have not found any. High altitude threats were not present elsewhere. I suppose I could count some of the Mk VI/VII flights but they are not really what I am looking for. What about the High Altitude Flight at Boscombe Down? Rafweb confirms that there was a flight there but I have no further details. I know it was connected with contrails. I did look at what Spitfires were b
  16. 500lb bombs are not discussed. They did a test with 2x250lb bombs but no clue how they were loaded. I particularly love their description of the Spitfire as "most unsuitable as a dive-bomber".
  17. They were not permanent. During this phase the squadron was used for dive bombing ops and fighting ops sometimes on the same day and the bomb racks were constantly being put on and taken off. You can sense the frustration in the Operation Record Book.
  18. On the second page of this topic https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235032793-spitfire-vc-codes-serials/ there are some pictures of a crashed 2 SAAF Spitfire that looks to have been repainted in day fighter scheme. The photo quality is not as good but the first one looks like it still has a leading edge strip. I think from the ORB that the desert colour photos were from immediately after the return from Malta for the fitting of the cannon so I wonder if they were mid repainting when the photographer arrived.
  19. I know this is not Spitfires but... I am still looking for the Hurricane squadron that tried to intercept the Ju 86 in Bing Cross's book. I am now on 1 SAAF. First page I look at: Two pilots remain at Edku with our "special machine". This is their lucky Hurricane with 4 interceptions. 8 of the guns are removed leaving two in each wing, some armour plating and the air filter also removed. On a scramble on 6.6.42 the sector controller measures them at 39,000ft. The next page: two more with B Flight at El Gamil. They spend June trying to reach high-flying recco air
  20. A copy of Classic Warbirds No. 12 The Anzacs has arrived. There are three photos of special Mk IX Spitfires in the biography of Jeff West: JK980 in the photo that I have already linked to A close up shot of the pilot in the cockpit which shows very little of the aircraft but could be JK980 again A photo identified by the pilot as being EN399 in a completely unpainted scheme with no serials either. It is in use as it is plugged in, with the cockpit open. The photo is from three-quarters behind so armament can not be confirmed. All three are described as Aboukir 1944.
  21. The mod for the balloon hood fit was dated (according to Spitfire the History) 20.10.41 which is about six months in to the Mk V production run. Vc first production was 31.10.41 so presumably very few, if any, would have had the old hood. I cannot find any Mediterranean Spitfires (Malta or North Africa) that are that early so they all should have the later hood. I suppose that does not prevent asking for some to be shipped.
  22. I promised some questions that remain to be considered. I accept that there may not be answers to them! Are there any other flights that I have missed? What about the High Altitude Flight at Boscombe Down? And the one at Bari? Are there any aircraft I have missed? Or photos? Is there an additional data source for the 1943 Mk IXs in Italy? Were the Ju86s in the Middle East R1s or P2s? Is there an answer to the Bing Cross questions: 252 wing? 219 group? 274 squadron? Where does BS354 fit in? Did BS343 have a role? It seems a bit roug
  23. I would like to say I had finished but I still have a series of questions that I am going to think about. See the next post.
  24. I will investigate canopies and I am definitely going to look at paint patterns for desert Spitfires. One I came across recently was this photo of AB326 which flew the first Spitfire operation in the desert and I think is an example of exchanged colours. This photo is during the training phase before operations started as it has no aircraft letter.
  25. And a complete aside. Googling Galitzine I found that his son Emanuel (known as Manny) won a poetry competition in the local paper for my home county, West Sussex. Of course it mentions Spitfires! https://www.westsussextoday.co.uk/news/mannys-prize-winning-poetry-prince-2428994
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