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Fantastic job.
That Italeri kit really is the gift that keeps on giving though. I've dealt with all sorts of nonsense on the one I'm doing at the moment, but the tail is a new one. Mind if I ask what's wrong with it?
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40 minutes ago, perdu said:
Have we taught you how to print your own transfers yet?
Nope. Nor will you.
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On 7/8/2020 at 9:17 AM, Andwil said:
An update on the little progress I’ve made with the Wessex. A lot of time has been spent on scratching some details for the interior, most of them have gone into the bin as I was really not happy with them. I am not going for total accuracy, just something to busy up the cabin, some representations of seats and a bench plus the underside of the transmission tunnel which intrudes into the front of the cabin. I’ll put some primer on this lot and see how it comes up under paint.
bits just placed loosely in position:
Looking at that picture I think I will reduce the length of the seat legs.
AW
My out-the-box seats are a distant memory by now, and are hiding away in the dark as all my windows are masked up. Looks great, I like the little table! Been having all sorts of aggro with mine...
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It occurred to me this morning that not only are the serial numbers missing from the sheet, but also the codes. I quote from Modeldecal: "you will need to make up the serial numbers and (most of) the codes from various Modeldecal sets (mainly nos. 36A, 58, 59 & 60) or other sources". Now maybe I'm just spoiled, but I'm kind of used to having everything I need to complete a particular aircraft in one place (as is the case with every other aftermarket decal sheet I've ever bought) without the need to find and purchase yet more decals. At this point I can't justify the additional expenditure on more decals to indulge myself with RFA Olna, so back to HMS London and Buzby I go.
I take @perdu's point about Modeldecal wishing to cram as many different options onto a standard sheet though. I think this is one of those things that separates "proper modellers" from rank amateurs like me. I guess I'm just not Modeldecal's target market.
All part of the learning curve...
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7 hours ago, perdu said:
WE HAVE ALL DONE SOMETHING TO UPSET ITALERI, maybe in a previous life...
There are Wessexperts with nautical backgrounds around here, you will see but Hendie is ex-RAF and so is unlikely to know the answer.
Matt Olive Green 268 it says on the Modeldecals instructions
I would just aim to get close enough for what your eye sees.
Yeah I spotted that too. I think it's the Xtracolour one I mentioned is an equivalent. Thing is (to my eye at least) there are two kinds of all-green RN Wessex in play - the ones with matt finish and low-vis roundels (e.g. Falkands) which are very olive and very drab, and the ones like XS522 (as I'm trying to do her) which are a darker, bluer shade of green with something of a gloss finish.
On the right is the colour I've been using (per Italeri's instructions). In the middle is Humbrol 149, which I think is the right shade to use. On the left is (according to some conversion charts) the Revell equivalent to H149, though it looks nothing like it LOL. Bit of remedial work to do, but no dramas.
Generally speaking the issues I face during my (to be fair quite amateurish) builds are normally the result of my own carelessness or clumsiness, but on this one the kit manufacturer seems to have it in for me!
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Right, done a bit of research. Xtracolor X028 is something called RN helicopter olive drab, and there doesn't seem to be an equivalent in any other range. However looking at pics of various Wessexes I get the impression that this colour was used on aircraft with low vis roundels and black or white lettering in combat zones like the Falklands. Pics of all-green Wessexes with high regular roundels/white lettering seem to be a darker, "bluer" green. I could get a tin of the Xtracolor from Hannants but their minimum orders and shipping charges kill me. Or I could get Humbrol 149 from a local stockist. Or I could use Revell 67, which I have and which is reportedly an equivalent to H149. Or I could stop getting so wound up about minute differences in shades of green that nobody will care about but me.
Any of the Wessexperts (see what I did there?) shed any light on the colour of XS522 before I start scrubbing paint off stuff? @hendie maybe? Thanks
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So here's a thing.
The instructions depict two FAA colour schemes, a camo job and an all-over dark green. They say the dark green in the camo and the all-over dark green are both FS 34079. I've been using Humbrol 116 as an equivalent. I've got as far as painting some of the smaller pieces, the upper faces of the rotor blades and the meshy bits around the nose and the rotor (dry brushing over black). I've been vaguely troubled that it looks a bit olivey compared to pics of helicopters of this type, and for that matter the artwork on the back of the box.
And now I look at the box and there it says that the all-over green isn't FS 34079, it's FS 34092, a darker green that translates into Humbrol as no. 149.
Have I done something to upset Italeri, maybe in a previous life?
Fortunately I was just about getting to priming so haven't painted the fuselage. Maybe I'll see if I've got 149 in and make a comparison.
Italeri are doing my nut.
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Never heard of this before I saw your build. Just been reading about it. What a story. Many thanks.
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That's a big ol' bomb!
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My modelling space is the end of the dining room table.
My stash in four large cardboard boxes out in the shed. The roof has seen better days and has leaked (on the to-do list), the boxes are mostly in a woeful state after ten years in there but the plastic won't come to any harm. All my instructions and decals are in a filing cabinet indoors though.
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On 7/5/2020 at 9:52 AM, Chewbacca said:
Instructions might be better re-titled "loose guidance"
I prefer "vague suggestions"...
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Hi all,
For my upcoming first crack at a group build I'm thinking of doing a two-plane wheels-up aerial diorama (flyorama)? The encounter in question takes place of the Mediterranean. Can anyone put me onto a source of convincing looking sea?
Thanks
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Amazing. I love those far east roundels.
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Well, @perdu, after no small amount of deliberation I took a very deep breath and went at that nose with dremel, files and sandpaper, and now I have a front end that looks more like a Wessex, less like a ski jump. It's going to need a bit of filler and tidying up but I'm very pleased with this outcome. Thanks again for the heads up.
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Hello! Plenty source material down your way!
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Thank you @825, that's really interesting. The Shack is my likely target due to ready availability of kit and decals, but if I go for another heavy this or the Sparrow will be up there!
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1 minute ago, perdu said:
Dont worry too much about anything
The whole thing is just to make the model YOU WANT, other nosey gits like me are often only adding to the burden
does not have decal sheets of serial numbers kicking around
Yet
I predict that as you get more involved you will, don't push it, just take it as a curve for learning only what you want to.
I'm going to give it a look over later to see if I can do anything with it. Carving it back that much and still having a hole anywhere near the same size as the intake cover thingy seems like a big ask. If not, I'll brace myself for a few slings and arrows if/when I present the end product for inspection
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The advice is much appreciated!
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17 minutes ago, perdu said:
Er, may I invite you to take a look at that nose filter box.
Latterly may I also invite you to take a ruler, followed by a file to it.
It looks as if Italeri decided to make a snow plough winter issue Wessex.
Don't be offended, Matchbox did the same.
Those nose flters are ludicrous.
In my opinion, other more valid opinions are available.
As for Modeldecals' attitude to serial numbers the policy was to get as many versions onto a standard sized sheet, accepting that most committed modellers would have letter and number sheets available anyway.
It was a policy I applauded then and still do, you might be surprised at how valuable replacement serials can be when Sod pops his head round the corner.
Blimey.
You know what, I hadn't even noticed, which says a lot about my attention to detail I guess... but now you mention it. That top lip to scale would be sticking out by what, a foot or more? I'll have to have a ponder on this one, it's some fairly major surgery by my standards and I'd risk messing the whole thing up if I get it wrong. It would help if I hadn't stuck the nose on already
Here's the thing: I'm working at a while different level to lot of the modellers on this forum (witness: does not have decal sheets of serial numbers kicking around). I've just about worked up the confidence to do little corrections like those steps, reshaping a nose might well be beyond me.
Found this which is where it should be at:
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On 7/1/2020 at 11:48 PM, corsaircorp said:
Hello Vlad...
Is this one talking to you ??
Not only stencils are not re applied but in fact, the nice straight lines are wrong too....
How many swearing would have been spared for all of us modellers !!
Masking ?? What masking ???
Sincerely.
CC
I've wondered about those D-Day stripes before... invariably on models kits they are presented very neatly, but I'd heard about them being slapped on in a hurry, sometimes even with mops and brooms, which surely would have given a rather rough and ready look to the end result - your picture certainly supports this! I guess the stencils were a casualty on this particular Spit...
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Well my decal sheet has arrived. The first thing that's remarkable about it is that while it features a whole bunch of Wessexes it doesn't include serial numbers for any of them - if you want serial numbers you need to buy a whole separate sheet, which is a bit naughty if you ask me, Modeldecal! The second remarkable thing is that as well as all the Wessexes it includes a Belgian Mirage, which seems a bit random - is there a link that I'm missing?
Luckily for me the sheet includes no less than three representations of XS522 at various stages in its career (and I do have the serial numbers for that one). I'm going to go for the RFA Olna/1976 option, mainly because I like the Olna crest the most but also because there's a fantastic photograph that I can refer to. 829 NAS it says on the decal sheet, though it XS522 might have been with 846 NAS at that time.
RFA Olna was a "fast fleet tanker" that carried a complement of three Wessexes and later Sea Kings.
It's almost as much fun finding out more about the aircraft as it is building the model!
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This takes me back. My very first build years ago was the Airfix PR XIX, newly issued at the time. I built PS888 in its original RAF guise, before realising that the fuselage roundels were the wrong size. I got so hung up about this apparent inaccuracy that I refinished the Spit to represent the same plane later in its career with the Thai AF. Surely it must just be a case of switching the roundels and tail flash, right? After all, why would they go to the trouble of repainting the spinner?
And now, something like 11 years later, I find out that the spinner might have been the wrong colour! You just can't win!
Enjoy the build, whatever colour its nose turns out to be.
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Fantastic job. I've been telling myself that my 1/72 Italeri Wessex will look OK "within the limitations of the scale", but I see this and realise I have no excuse!
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1 hour ago, Edge said:
You're not dreaming. Alleycat produce a conversion (complete wings with Merlins) and High Planes produce FAA decals to suit. On my to-do list!
Edge
So despite the fact that my FAA stash runs to 40+ kits I absolutely need to buy two kits for upcoming Group Builds, an F-35, a Shackleton (since I found out there was one with ROYAL NAVY on the side), and now this. The mrs ain’t gonna be happy.
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Fantastic job. I've had half an eye on this because I could swear I saw some decals for an FAA version somewhere. Though I might have dreamt it...
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Many thanks, I'll give it a look.