Dave Fleming

Worth mentioning #1 and #4 are the same airframe repainted - which makes the colours on AX-? more intriguing as it's obviously been repainted (Some sources suggest that AX-? was White 9 or Yellow 2 (#2) - Yellow 2 may have been the F that was seen in overall sand with RAF markings but a swastika on the tail The colours on KJ-? are a bit of a mystery - it's one of three captured 109Fs that have a very dark colour (The others EY - and GL-?) There are lots of photos of Yellow 2 on Tinus le Roux's wonderful SAAF Pilots site https://biltongbru.wixsite.com/ww2-saaf-heritage (I have about 46 of Yellow 2, although many are duplicate or near duplicates) e.g. https://saafww2photographs.yolasite.com/tom-meek-1.php

I suspect it's just a vinyl sticker (or even a paper one to preserve the coating ) and will be as transient as the 602 Squadron Tornado F3 or the tiger striped Sea King HAR 3 and Merlin HC3. The honours board might be a replacement panel

It’s a bit squint. Like I put it on! 🙂

I suspect we might see a Phoenix inside the lift jet intake cover for tomorrow’s reformation but nothing external . i did always think it a useful co-incidence that the official ‘Lightning Force’ marking was not dissimilar to 617s badge.

When I did it I used laminated cuts of plastic card cut to rough shape then sanded in

I have an old article on converting the Dominie to a Series 1. the biggest issue is removing the electronics fairing

I have the means....! 🙂

Barracudacast!

Got a photo? Could be the periscope for the middle cockpit on the trainer variant and the fairings for the rear cockpit with the view holes in them?

Not thinking so much o using captured stocks, but using that as the basis for a developed colour. The thought was painting in a 'sky type' colour for a reason, rather than a strangely coloured version of RLM 76;

There is a photo on the Print Scale decal sheet - like you, I don't see why the upper wings would not also have the stripes at leats initially

Possibly 212 for their PR Spitfires? Paul's report of the light green Sky colour being painted over 'normal' RLM65 contains some specific information (Reports of colours in the reports/documents I've seen can best be described as variable - some are very good, some very colloquial( WW1 ones are even more so!) - this seems to be one of the former). I can see the argument for binders and different pigment mixes for RLM76 aircraft, , but why would an early/mid-war Ju88 be painted in any variant of RLM 76?

Would the Vokes filter fitted to the PRIV be the same as the one fitted to the fighters? The Vokes filter was designed to have a larger oil tank, so I think it should have been able to contain the PR oil tank without modification It certainly looks the same when you compare photos and the drawings in the attached thread Dave (thinking the Airfix Vc might be a better start for a tropical PRIV)

And I made this thought! https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/36403-pr-aircraft-low-flying-scheme/&do=findComment&comment=389638

The low level PR scheme is an interesting beast, the only known (documented?) use of PR Mauve was on the undersides of Spitfire XIIIs. Edgar Brooks had a copy of the Vickers paint scheme diagram which showed this - but that's where things get murky, because whilst the underside showed PR Mauve, the references for the upper colours suggested Dark Green and Medium Sea Grey rather than those for Dark Sea Green and Extra Dark Sea Grey - which might explain the much lighter tone of grey showing in the few photos of these aircraft, which seems too light to be accounted for by the behaviour of the blueish-toned EDSG in B+W film, even using filters. (other colours such as roundel yellows and blues appear with 'normal' grey tones) Edgar also posted: "In a letter to Headquarters Coastal Command, dated 22-12-42, under the heading "Camouflage of P.R.Aircraft. A.M.Postagram S.7312/II/D.O.R..dated 17.12.42" the Group Captain, Commanding, R.A.F.Station Benson writes, under a heading of "Scheme "B" for low flying aircraft" "The upper surfaces are standard sea camouflage (Sea grey Sect.33B Ref245) and dark green (Sect.33B Ref.338). The under surfaces are P.R.U.Mauve, composed of 5 parts P.R.U.pink (Sect.33B NIV.), 2 parts P.R.U.Blue and 1 part Identification Red (Sect.33B Ref.72). For details see colour drawing "B"." Sea Grey 245 matches 5-gal Extra Dark Sea Grey in Paul Lucas's list, in "Camouflage & Markings no.2" 338 matches 5-gal Sky DTD 314, which is, plainly, daft, so requires more investigation. Earlier, the C.O. lists P.R.Blue as "Sect.33B Ref.494," which, unhelpfully, is beyond the range of PL's list." To which Graham notes: "Dark Green to DTD 441 is 33B/358, so that could be a simple slip of the pen at some stage (358 - or possibly 33B - becoming 338). However, DTD441 is a distemper, so this is very unlikely to be the correct reference. Also, sadly, Dark Green (the proper colour of that name) would match neither the "standard sea camouflage" assuming this means the Temperate Sea Scheme nor the low-flying PR scheme. Paul does not give store references for the Sea Greens, but TSS calls for Dark Slate Grey. This existed under a range of alternatives: I suggest the likeliest being to DTD420, 33B/359. 33B/245 is EDSG to DTD308, prewar cellulose-based paints. The equivalent Dark Slate Grey is 33B/237-239, with the equivalent Dark Green being 33B/192-194 If we look at the prewar Synthetic colours, to DTD 314, EDSG is 281-283, DSG is 275-277, DG is 201-203 I fear the Groupie's list is irredemiably corrupt, as far as distinguishing between "standard sea" scheme and the low-flying PR.

As I recall, it's accuracy was all over the place, compared the the Huntley drawings (at the time the best available) - essentially anything they got wrong in the Classic Airframes 1/48th could be translated to the 1/72 version

It does surprise me Airfix have never done that

I don't think anyone's done any.

And Shackletons and Sentries (as well as a few other types as well)

It actually got cheaper than that - I paid £11.80 for one in Jan 2019, having previously paid £17 and £14 a month or two earlier

The Coastal Command version was being offloaded on Amazon at silly (low) prices a few years back, so it might not have been a great seller. Some Airfix kits become hard to find quite quickly (Trafalgar class sub, Italian Ju87 for example)

Thanks - I'd wondered how the second AMRAAM was fitted (and the graphic confirms that stations 4 and 8 can be used for AAMs) - so UK 'Interceptor/fighter' fit looks like 2x ASRAAM and 4x AIM-120 based on the footage form the BBC QE series

Operational UK F-35s from QE over Syria seemed to have carried single ASRAAMs on the wing pylons (some a/c were observed with only 1 missile). AMRAAMs and PWIV in the weapons bays. Some of the footage suggested an interceptor config of just AAMs and possibly 4x AMRAAM in the bays - is that a real F-35 config or just the edited footage was misleading?

It's not an easy thing to do - on my next one (which will be an HC4) I think I'll scribe a line down the middle and cut down to that - those doing the 1/48th have the same issue

I managed to tie it down to start being added about 1989